Farida Afridi was a Pakistani activist who advocated for women and social change was hunted down and killed a few days ago, while traveling from her home in Tehsil Jamrud Ghundi Kali to her office in Hayatabad. She was 25.
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Comedians and Society
George Carlin was ahead of society. He led freethinkers, skeptics, others. Think of all those clips from George Carlin routines that we play today as reference to important, vibrant, current ideas. Those clips are always years old, sometimes decades. Something similar could be said of Louis Black. Ellen. There are others.
Recently we have seen a rash of something very different happening. The comedian who offended everyone at an atheist conference in Australia earlier this year comes to mind. Recently, when Daniel Tosh suggested that it would be really funny if a woman in his audience was gang raped by five men, almost everyone responded with one big giant “WTF?” There were those who decried criticism of Tosh … “Comedy is subjective, man, leave it alone.” … and one apparently well known comedian of whom I’ve never heard, Louis C.K. came to Tosh’s defense as well.
These are comedians whoa are not ahead of society, but rather, are lagging well behind, languishing along with their clueless neckbeard fans in a long gone era.
Now, here’s my question. Is this a pattern, and if so, what is the pattern? Here are a few ideas:
1) Oscillation. The degree to which most/mainstream comedians (or more generally, comedy) leads vs. follows cultural and social evolution simply varies back and forth over time, and oscillates because it varies…movement one way potentiates movement in the opposite direction as opposition emerges, or opportunities arise for shifting the comedic center. This would be much like shifting fashions where there is a simple spectrum or binaries: dress length, mustache or no mustache, that sort of thing.
2) Selection bias and culling. The comedians we remember are the ones that led society. There were morons like Tosh and CK 30 years ago, we just forgot.
3) It is all random. That would be funny.
So, what is it? Between all of us we must know.
Science Based Pharmacy
Available now for download:
Skeptically Speaking #171 Ask A Pharmacist
We’re back live this week, and we’re giving you the chance to Ask a Pharmacist. Ontario pharmacist Scott Gavura is the founder and editor of Science-Based Pharmacy, and a contributor to Science-Based Medicine. He’ll be answering audience questions for the full hour.
NPR: Your Headline Offends
I am not happy with this NPR title: Will Medicaid Bring The Uninsured Out Of The Woodwork?.
Dear New York Times: The uninsured are not in the woodwork. They are in pain. They are in trouble. They are in debt. They are not in the woodwork. Cockroaches are in the woodwork. The uninsured are not.
I have a friend who was badly injured last winter. She’s always been either a full time student or had a job. Her jobs as far as I know are always helping people in some way, usually working with youth, either education-related or working with kids at risk. That is what her schooling is about at all, too; Youth, social justice, etc. etc. But, by chance, her injury came at a period in her life when she was between insurance-providing jobs (though she was working multiple part time jobs) and school is so expensive that she was also between paid up semesters. I was with her when she was injured. It was something like December (I’d have to check). Her injury required surgery.
Unfortunately, she was not covered by any sort of insurance and the sorts of things that needed to be done were not available via the usual routes. She knew she’d be able to get a job soon, as she was looking, qualified, and had some good leads. It seemed likely that one of her part time jobs might pan out to a full time job with benefits. Eventually, this Spring, she was hired for full time employment (working with kids at risk in the Twin Cities). Then the required waiting period before you get actual medical coverage even though you have medical coverage went by, and she got an appointment with a doctor, then the right kind of doctor, then the surgeon, and then made the appointment to go under the knife.
Her surgery is tomorrow. She did not crawl out of the woodwork. She was not in the woodwork for the last six months. She was in pain. She was in pain the whole time, Mr. New York Times.
I am totally bringing her chicken soup.
(Note: Sorry, I thought the piece was from the NYT, not NPR because I was reading both at the same time … thus the slug.)
So far, I’ve not seen a funny rape joke
So a Girl Walks into a Comedy Club….
…
“So, on Friday night my friend and I were at her house and wanted to get out and do something for the evening. We brainstormed ideas and she brought up the idea of seeing a show at the Laugh Factory. I’d never been, I thought it sounded fun, so we went. [and saw] Daniel Tosh, …So Tosh then starts making some very generalizing, declarative statements about rape jokes always being funny, how can a rape joke not be funny, rape is hilarious, etc. …. So I yelled out, “Actually, rape jokes are never funny!”
… After I called out to him, Tosh paused for a moment. Then, he says, “Wouldn’t it be funny if …
OMG, I can’t believe what he said. Read it here.
ABC Interview with Climate Scientists Michael Mann
You know Michael Mann as the scientist who described recent climate change with the “hockey stick” graph. He also wrote The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars: Dispatches from the Front Lines. He is talking about the McCarthyistic tactics of the climate change denialists, including crazy people lurking in the shadows, and sitting members of the United Stated Congress.
If the interview does not work properly, you can view it here.
GOP Bob Inglis: Stop with the climate change denialism!
This just in:
Former South Carolina GOP Rep. Bob Inglis, is urging conservatives to stop denying that humans are contributing to global warming.
Inglis … will lead a new initiative at George Mason University to promote “conservative solutions to America’s energy and climate challenges” …
Inglis lost his 2010 primary to Trey Gowdy, who went on to win the general election to represent South Carolina’s 4th district, which is in the northern part of the state.
Details here at The Hill
Almost three in four of Americans polled accept recent global warming
Almost three in four of Americans accept recent global warming, according to a new poll conducted for the Washington Post and Stanford University — but only three in ten agree that it is mainly due to human activity.
Asked “Do you think that the world’s temperature probably has been going up [“slowly” was used with half of the sample] over the past 100 years, or do you think this probably has not been happening?” 73% of respondents said yes, 25% of respondents said no, and 2% indicated that they didn’t know or refused to answer.
That’s from the NCSE
Welcome to the Rest of Our Lives
A new climate change video by greenman3510:
Free Chapter from New Global Warming Book
There is a new book coming out called How We Know What We Know about Our Changing Climate: Scientists and Kids Explore Global Warming. Here is a description:
When the weather changes daily, how do we really know that Earth’s climate is changing? Here is the science behind the headlines – evidence from flowers, butterflies, birds, frogs, trees, glaciers and much more, gathered by scientists from all over the world, sometimes with assistance from young “citizen-scientists.” And here is what young people, and their families and teachers, can do to learn about climate change and take action. Climate change is a critical and timely topic of deep concern, here told in an age-appropriate manner, with clarity and hope. Kids can make a difference! This book combines the talents of two uniquely qualified authors: Lynne Cherry, the leading children’s environmental writer/illustrator and author of The Great Kapok Tree, and Gary Braasch, award-winning photojournalist and author of Earth Under Fire: How Global Warming is Changing the World.
And HERE, courtesy of the National Center for Science Education, is a free chapter from that book. Enjoy.
Reason and Creationism
A talk by Genie Scott of the NCSE.
Do reason and creationism ever intersect? What reasons do creationists cite in explaining their beliefs? Genie Scott examines how “reason” is misunderstood and misused by creationists. When: 4/15/2012. Where: Global Atheist Convention, Melbourne, Australia
Skepchickal Sex Ratio in Context
The question has been asked: What was the sex ratio of attendees of the recent SkepchickCON Track at CONvergence, and of the panelists? To this it would be nice (and appropriate) to add the same questions for CONvergence as a whole. I have some, but not all, of that information.
I looked at the panelist sex ratio by examining every Skepchick run panel on the CONvergnece schedule, and adjusted where I know for who actually was on the panel (it is usually the same but now and then things turn out differently). To sample panels at CONvergence, I simply examined the CONvergence panel immediately after the Skepchick organized panel on the schedule listing, and if the Skepchick panel was the last one, I looked at the one before that. For each time slot, these panels are listed alphabetically so this probably represents a good unbiased pair. This may have errors and it is uncorrected, but the numbers are stark so I’m not worried about false conclusions being drawn if there is an error here and there.
I looked at 17 panels that I could identify as Skepchick organized from the schedule and one panel that was not on he schedule (the last one) but that I knew about (that was the only one not on the schedule). I counted the sex ratio as 29 males to 55 females (1.9) for Skepchick organized panels, and the sex ratio as 32 males to 29 females (0.91) for non-Skepchick CON panels.
As I understand it, it is Skepchick policy to have mostly females on panels, or an even sex ratio, but occasionally one ends up with more males. All the panels I was on or sat and observed were pretty darn good panels except one, which was an embarrassing waste of time, and that one was four guys with a female moderator who is the best in the world but still could not save it. So, yeah, there may be something to avoiding panels with mostly guys.
I have no idea what the sex ratio of the CON attendees might have been, and I have no idea what the sex ratio of the non Skepchick-organized panels might have been. Actually, I have no idea what the sex ratio of attendees of the Skepchick panels was either but I counted boys and girls in three photographs of the audiences, all taken before panels started and people were still wandering in, and found a total of 52 males and 34 females (0.65). That, however, is a very limited sampling and I wouldn’t read much into it. Or maybe boys like to watch girls, I dunno.
Debbie Goddard

Anyway, while Debbie was in town she did an interview with Minnesota Atheists which I believe was conducted by Stephanie Zvan: African Americans for Humanism, Debbie Goddard on Atheists Talk #175, Sunday, July 8th, 2012
I’m hoping that next year we can talk about the history of the movement and stuff, as she has an interesting perspective.
This cute kitteh needs your help
Cute Kitteh is a Metaphor for Atheist Talk Radio.
What do all these people have in common?
Don Prothero
Ed Brayton
Eugenie Scott
Ira Flatow
Jennifer McCreight
John Abraham
John Hawkes
Lois Shadewald
Lynn Fellman
Maggie Koerth Baker
Martin Rundkvist
Massimo Pigliucci
Neil DeGrasse Tyson
Peter Lipson
PZ Myers
Randy Moore
Sehoya Cotner
Shawn Otto
Well, that’s the short list of people who come to mind when I think of Minnesota Talk Radio, because I’ve either interviewed them or co-interviewed someone with them. Mike Haubrich, Stephanie Zvan and Biodork also come to mind because they’ve run or do run the show. There are many others.
And that is only (well, mainly) the science shows that I know that you’all as Scineceblogs readers would be interested in. There’s also the other stuff.
If you like Minnesota Atheist Talk Radio and want to help keep it on the air, this would be a good time to CLICK HERE and make a small donation. There is a matching fund thingie going on now too. Consider making a recurring donation. Or a matching donation in honor of somebody. Anything will help.
Thank you very much.
Picture of cute kitteh by Difusa
CNN hates on Bill Nye the Science Guy. Nye will have none of it.
We just might be experiencing the hottest year on record (can’t be sure yet, but it looks like it might be) and if that is the case, I estimate it may be the hottest year (except a few unidentified and undocumented outliers) for a half a million years or so.
She’s wrong about the forest fires; The reason there are so many fires right now is that timber is at record low moisture level.