Donald Trump is bad. How bad is he?

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Donald Trump is so bad that the Koch Brothers are turning their backs on him.

From the Washington Post:

Top officials with the donor network affiliated with billionaire industrialist Charles Koch this weekend sought to distance the network from the Republican Party and President Trump, citing tariff and immigration policies and “divisive” rhetoric out of Washington.

At a gathering of hundreds of donors at the Broadmoor resort here, officials reiterated their plans to spend as much as $400 million on policy issues and political campaigns during the 2018 cycle. Earlier this year, they announced heavy spending aimed at helping Republicans to hold the Senate. But in a warning shot at Trump and the GOP, network co-chair Brian Hooks lamented “tremendous lack of leadership” in Trump’s Washington and the “deterioration of the core institutions of society.”

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77 thoughts on “Donald Trump is bad. How bad is he?

  1. Qui cum canibus concumbunt cum pulicibus surgent.

    I’ll leave it to others to consider which is which…

  2. “In 1980, under pressure to begin construction on what would become his signature project, Donald J. Trump employed a crew of 200 undocumented Polish workers who worked in 12-hour shifts, without gloves, hard hats or masks, to demolish the Bonwit Teller building on Fifth Avenue, where the 58-story, golden-hued Trump Tower now stands.

    The workers were paid as little as $4 an hour for their dangerous labor, less than half the union wage, if they got paid at all.

    Their treatment led to years of litigation over Mr. Trump’s labor practices, and in 1998, despite frequent claims that he never settles lawsuits, Mr. Trump quietly reached an agreement to end a class-action suit over the Bonwit Teller demolition in which he was a defendant.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/nyregion/trump-tower-illegal-immigrant-workers-union-settlement.html

    “A Vox analysis of hiring records for seasonal workers at three Trump properties in New York and Florida revealed that only one out of 144 jobs went to a US worker from 2016 to the end of 2017. Foreign guest workers with H-2B visas got the rest…

    The H-2B visa program allows seasonal, non-agricultural employers — like hotels and ski resorts — to hire foreign workers when they can’t find American ones. The Trump administration temporarily expanded this guest-worker program in 2017 while restricting other avenues of legal immigration, including the H-1B program for high-skilled workers.

    The Trump Organization is exactly the kind of company that relies on the H-2B visa program for low-skilled workers.”
    https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

    And while Trump and his allies exploit low-skilled, underpaid foreign workers, they fight against unions and the right to a living wage. But if you’re a rich speculator, you stand to gain.
    “The Trump administration is considering bypassing Congress to grant a $100 billion tax cut mainly to the wealthy, a legally tenuous maneuver that would cut capital gains taxation and fulfill a long-held ambition of many investors and conservatives.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/30/us/politics/trump-tax-cuts-rich.html

    1. Yes he took advantage of cheap labor immigration regime to help his bottom line. As President, he is closing some of these pathways, though he seems OK with the guest workers.

  3. “While Trump want’s to make workers better off? What a friggin’ tool you are.”

    Tool, is an entertaining band !! Can you demonstrate your contrarian
    opinion or did you graduate for the K9dean school of name calling?

    The Donald is giving America workfare, all the Socshevikes
    offer is welfare; high taxes; and class warfare and a lame two
    percent growth rate over eight years. Death to America (leftist
    style)

    Big government, the modern version of slavery.

    dhogaza, for CONgress.

    1. Yeah, with real wages down signicsntly since he took office, and with none of the benefits ignorantly promised and stupidly believed from the big tax cuts, he’s helping quite a bit. If you’re reality challenged anyway.

  4. (I posted this earlier – seems to have gotten lost.)
    “In 1980, under pressure to begin construction on what would become his signature project, Donald J. Trump employed a crew of 200 undocumented Polish workers who worked in 12-hour shifts, without gloves, hard hats or masks, to demolish the Bonwit Teller building on Fifth Avenue, where the 58-story, golden-hued Trump Tower now stands.

    The workers were paid as little as $4 an hour for their dangerous labor, less than half the union wage, if they got paid at all.

    Their treatment led to years of litigation over Mr. Trump’s labor practices, and in 1998, despite frequent claims that he never settles lawsuits, Mr. Trump quietly reached an agreement to end a class-action suit over the Bonwit Teller demolition in which he was a defendant.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/nyregion/trump-tower-illegal-immigrant-workers-union-settlement.html

    “A Vox analysis of hiring records for seasonal workers at three Trump properties in New York and Florida revealed that only one out of 144 jobs went to a US worker from 2016 to the end of 2017. Foreign guest workers with H-2B visas got the rest…

    The H-2B visa program allows seasonal, non-agricultural employers — like hotels and ski resorts — to hire foreign workers when they can’t find American ones. The Trump administration temporarily expanded this guest-worker program in 2017 while restricting other avenues of legal immigration, including the H-1B program for high-skilled workers.

    The Trump Organization is exactly the kind of company that relies on the H-2B visa program for low-skilled workers.”
    https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

    And while Trump and his allies exploit low-skilled, underpaid foreign workers, they fight against unions and the right to a living wage. But if you’re a rich speculator, you stand to gain.
    “The Trump administration is considering bypassing Congress to grant a $100 billion tax cut mainly to the wealthy, a legally tenuous maneuver that would cut capital gains taxation and fulfill a long-held ambition of many investors and conservatives.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/30/us/politics/trump-tax-cuts-rich.html

  5. “Yeah, with real wages down signicsntly since he took office”

    K9dean, well that is true and you can blame the Bushneck
    and the Orama “the drama” families; along with the global
    elitist should as the Coke bros and the Sorors triplets.

    “none of the benefits ignorantly promised and stupidly believed from the big tax cuts”

    If you want instant success, please use the Burger King drive-thru.

    We still have room for you for an economic refresher course, at Head Start.

    K9dean, favorite Rolling Stone song is – I can’t get no satisfaction

    1. The reality is that no single president has any true influence over the economy — complex systems don’t work that way.

      However, the reality is also that the actions taken by Republican administrations have traditionally left economies in worse conditions.

      You can trace much of the decline of the middle class to the war on unions, private and public, as well as the war (again, led by the right) on education funding. Add to that the continued attacks on the very social structures most on the right used to strengthen themselves, and you can lay a good bit of the blame (not all, for far too many Democratic lawmakers bought into the same ideas) for the decline of the middle class on the right.

      Your myth of soros as being a bad guy, as well as your blatant racist lies about Obama’s presidency aside, it is fair to say you need a lot of education on pretty much everything. Start with working on your integrity — that will be easiest to build up since you have none now.

  6. As long as America has the human import invasion on the southern
    border and vast numbers of HB1, the middle class will continue to
    decline, while the elite and governmental unit employees
    prosper.

    Once the MC is gone, so will the nation, with a class structure of
    a third world nation.

    1. There is no “human invasion” on the southern border — never was, really — because numbers are historically low. Your ignorance also neglects the facts that

      – there is no massive crime wave associated with it, and never was
      – that “wave” (to use your stupid term) has always been a net plus for the economy

      Why is it that you folks have such a blatant disregard for facts?

  7. Trump has done so much over the years for American culture; he was a prime purveyor of sleazy parasitic casino culture, which was good for low paying jobs until it bled its customer base dry; his Apprentice show appeared to be completely free from things like science, intelligence, and humanity; he has raised the stature of theatrical wrestling; he has made lying a virtue; he has helped raise the stature of racist nationalists and misogynist; with Trump University he has raised swindling to new levels; God he has just done so damn much for American culture that it is amazing. Isn’t it?

    As to the middle class who don’t have jobs. Maybe if they had turned off “The Apprentice”, got off their asses and took some night courses, or got a first or second job, they could have crept out of their ghetto of sloth and despair. After all they have every advantage of being in America and they speak the main native language. Why couldn’t they lift themselves up by their boot straps, get to work, and find a way out of their dilemma? Maybe because it is so much easier to blame other human beings with more guts and gumption than them who are fleeing from and through foreign countries riddled by the sort of crime and corruption to get to what was once a beacon of hope and opportunity. Unfortunately, the former beacon of hope and humanity is now ruled by fascists with names like Trump and Sessions who changed the rules of the game without telling anybody, and who cruelly separated mothers and babies as a form of torture. What bastards.

    1. Why couldn’t they lift themselves up by their boot straps, get to work, and find a way out of their dilemma? Maybe because it is so much easier to blame other human beings with more guts and gumption than them who are fleeing from and through foreign countries

      I hope there’s some snark in there, but in case there isn’t: look at the historic decline in sync with the right-wing attacks on unions and education funding. There is also, of course, the extra influence of improvements in technology and automation resulting in lower demand for the type of work that helped the middle class grow. That isn’t coming back (and, although it’s too complicated for folks like billyR to understand, isn’t due to immigration).

      The notions of pulling oneself up by the bootstraps and upward mobility in the US are essentially fictions now.

    1. Didn’t know about the link policy. Understand.
      Please delete July 31, 2018 at 8:16 am. And this one too.

    1. You need to stop visiting bullshit sites. The fact that they are staffed by racists and liars probably does appeal to you billyR, but you can’t learn anything there (which is probably another reason you find them appealing.

      From June 2017 to June 2018, real average hourly earnings decreased 0.2 percent, seasonally adjusted.
      Combining the change in real average hourly earnings with a 0.3-percent increase in the average
      workweek resulted in no change to real average weekly earnings over this period.

      Fox Business host Stuart Varney appeared on Fox & Friends to hype economic growth under the Trump administration, claiming “wages are rising 25 percent faster under President Trump than they did under President Obama.”

      The Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta’s wage growth tracker (link below) showed that wages are in fact growing at a slower rate than they were in November 2016 under President Obama.

      https://www.frbatlanta.org/chcs/wage-growth-tracker.aspx?panel=1

    2. You said above that real wages were declining under Trump. Unless you want to say inflation is over 3%, you have posted a link that debunks your prior claim.

      And did a stats guy just do a comparison to Nov 2016 by pointing to a 3 month rolling average?

  8. In evaluating how bad Trump is we have to distinguish between short-term, local, remediable damage, and damage that’s global in extent and will last for centuries. We can’t fathom how bad Trump is without emphasizing his destructive climate policies.

  9. What is CO2 to plants, hysteria is to leftists.

    “There is no “human invasion” on the southern border — never was, really — because numbers are historically low. Your ignorance also neglects the facts that”

    ^ ^ ^
    l l l
    l l l
    l l l
    “Why is it that you folks have such a blatant disregard for facts?”

    K9 dean, please stop using your Walt Disney or ESC button on your
    keyboard.

    Are you so lazy all the time and make raucous claims without cites?

    I hate to admit it, but K9 dean is right that illegals border crossing are
    at it’s lowest since 2000.

    Nevertheless, last year over 400,ooo human invaders crossed the
    Mexican-USA border.

    That is the size of New Orleans or now called New Ordean. It is the
    49th largest USA city.

    https://www.numbersusa.com/news/illegal-border-crossings-exceed-fy15-numbers

  10. K9 Dean “Employment cost index, which measures wages and benefits, grew 2.8% in the 12 months to last month”

    This quote came from the racists and liars at the Labor Department.

    Nice link from the Milanta Fed but it only tracks wages and was
    designed to confuse dean.

    1. So, you don’t understand math, you don’t understand science, you are a racist and conspiracy theorist, you are a congenital liar — you really are the perfect Trump follower.

      It is sad that you don’t like it when reality contradicts your uninformed opinions. Perhaps if you actually did a little research before you formed opinions that wouldn’t happen.

      But you’ve posted enough to show that you really have no desire to learn anything, so I shouldn’t be surprised at your constant clinging to things that are false.

  11. Total global sea ice extent for today, the 211th day of the year, looks to be the lowest it has been since they started recording these things by satellite. Record heat waves are being recorded in Europe and Japan. “Temperatures near or pass all-time records in Europe as another heat wave blasts the continent” Antartica’s rate of ice melting has tripled over the last decade.

    I think that this is all quite interesting. The evidence for global warming is just getting more and more… intense. And BTW, for the people like BillyR who like to create straw men to knock down and beat their chests about, why don’t y’all learn to tell us what YOU think instead of trying to tell us what we think. We know what we think! You don’t! I recognize that this proposition may be difficult for some adolescent minds to grasp , but with time and effort, you can do it, and save a lot of wasted air.

    And, BTW, I am not at all hysterical or frantic about this. No. Not a bit. It is just interesting science to me for the most part. In fact, watching scientific predictions come true is kind of beautiful to me, a lot like art. And climate change is a lot like winter. You plan ahead for the coming season. You get ready for it as best you can. And if you can’t ready, or you refuse to believe that it is coming, well, then you might have a problem when the rate of change exceeds your ability to keep up with it. Like life.

    So the Koch Brothers and Trump are at odds? Interesting. Last I knew, all of them are climate change / global warming denialists, or some such thing. I guess that their shared climate science denial is not enough to keep them together. I guess that Trump is too radical for the country’s richest conservative brothers. Interesting.

    1. “So the Koch Brothers and Trump are at odds?”

      They must have some business interest they feel his asinine behavior could damage. That’s the only thing that could make sense, as they’re as bat-shit stupid as he is.

    2. They must have some business interest they feel his asinine behavior could damage. That’s the only thing that could make sense, as they’re as bat-shit stupid as he is.

      The Koch network liked the corporate tax cuts but not the trade war.

    3. Climate change denialists and resource exploitation enthusiasts. Some of Trump’s most important appointments: Pruitt, Zinke, Pompeo, and also Pence, were/are Koch products or have promoted policies that advance Koch interests.
      https://www.hcn.org/articles/donald-trumps-cabinet-choices-reflect-koch-influence
      One could argue that without the Koch brothers’ contribution to the perversion of American politics, Trump wouldn’t have been possible.
      https://newrepublic.com/article/150277/charles-kochs-bipartisan-delusion

  12. I would think a stats expert would know better than to use the single Parscale datapoint.

    I would think the stats denier would avoid making comments about things he doesn’t know anything about. Are you trying to say that trump’s people didn’t several magical things would happen as soon as the tax cuts were passed — ’cause if you were you’d be lying (again).

    1. I may have it wrong. I didn’t mean to say Trump’s campaign manager, but thought you were referring to this chart going around about wage growth. However, you provided an alternate reference, that doesn’t have wages dropping, but still it is not the chart I thought you were talking about.

    2. There is nothing wrong with the chart mikeN — short term time series as descriptive measures are perfectly acceptable, and there is nothing wrong with those numbers.

      Trump’s people stated the benefits from the tax cuts would be “immediate”. Nobody should have believed that, but nobody should have said it either.

  13. “So, you don’t understand math, you don’t understand science, you are a racist and conspiracy theorist, you are a congenital liar — you really are the perfect Trump follower.”

    Pity on you, K9 dean, for you are completely consumed with spite
    and hate.

    What does racism; conspiracies and lying have to do with a Labor
    Department report about wage and benefit growth?

    K9 dean, I urge to seek medical attention. I will even give you
    a lift to your clinic or Bellevue Hospital Center. I am afraid you
    are becoming emotional unstable, as well as being overcome
    with all to numerous phobias, which has effected your mental
    judgement.

    1. No billyr, I am simply tired of scum like you continuing to lie about things in school a blatant way that 30 seconds of work show your dishonesty.

      The numbers are neither racist nor dishonest. The people you choose to listen to have both those characteristics, as you do.

  14. “You can trace much of the decline of the middle class to the war on unions, private and public, as well as the war (again, led by the right) on education funding”

    More Ignorance by pit bull dean. Education funding is at or near record
    levels and memberships in the labor gangs are at a new historical low.

    Once again, Joseph “dean” Goebbels, spreading falsehoods without
    a single cite. The lies are not supported with the truth but then for leftists
    truth is just a minor inconvenience.

    Readers, do you laugh and or chuckle when he/she posts? Do you wonder
    if he has a missing chromosome or two? Did he/she have a childhood accident,
    which has effected the two frontal lobes? Do you think, K9dean, should be
    committed by the Department of Education?

    Has anyone noticed, K9dean’s lack of humor, laughter, civility; replaced
    with only dank and pessimism thoughts and comments of not only current
    issues but of his/her fellow man.

    We have setup a Go Fund K9dean. Please, give generously. No Korans.

    1. Your lie about funding doesn’t even bear out over the last decade.

      ? 49 states studied from 2008 through 2017 (last year full data is available) 44 spent less per student in 2017 than in 2009 (Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Wyoming spent more)
      ? States spent an average of 16 percent less on education in 2017 than in 2008
      ? In 8 states (Alabama, Arizona, Illinois, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, funding was more than 30 percent lower in 2017
      ? In 13 states per-student funding fell from 2016 to 2017 (and in Alaska, Kansas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, and Wisconsin, it fell from 2015 to 2016)
      ? Funding rose in 36 states from 2016 to 2017 — an average of $170

      Overall state funding for public two- and four-year colleges in the 2017 school year (that is, the school year ending in 2017) was nearly $9 billion below its 2008 level, after adjusting for inflation.

      From 2008 to 2017

      • State spending on higher education nationwide fell $1448 per student
      • 18 states cut funding by more than 20 percent: in eight of those the cuts were above 30 percent
      • Arizona cut per-student funding by more than 50%

      Labor “gangs”? Spoken like someone who has never worked an honest day in his life.

      Try to work with reality billyR — your dishonesty is spoiling the internet.

  15. K9 dean, I am glad you are finally honest
    be adding question marks before each insertion,
    which better than a suppository.

  16. Some things about Trump are more than a little bit troubling……
    His lying – his skill at misleading people, and the pass his base gives him on it.
    His attacking of the press and the rest of the information media.
    His narcissism.
    His divisiveness.
    His fascist traits.
    His support by the Russians.
    His support of the Russians.
    His sotto voce incitements to racist violence.
    His outright incitements to violence.
    His praise of white supremacists.
    The poor character traits of the people whom he surrounds himself with.
    His loutish character.
    His childish character.
    His lack of discernible moral values.
    His attacks on our allies.
    His sociopathic skill at evading responsibility.

    There is not a lot good that one can say about him, unless you are a member of his base, in which case he is, apparently, everything they ever dreamed of in a president. A wealthy, ill spoken science illiterate who flaunts convention like a Beverly Hill Billy. Someone who thrives in a world of theatrical violence, where the muses of fine art and science are generally too disgusted to come near. A thrilling near nazi who upholds their rights to be indignant, cruel, self righteous, and tasteless. He resonates with what I suppose to be Neanderthal and immature values. Things like Might makes right. Science is irrelevant. Alpha males are the pinnacle of creation. Eat the big Mac. Follow the leader. Or in this case, follow the mis-leader.

    Trump appears to be trying to close his circle of fascist traits with his cobbled together religion of flag-ism, indignity, and tribalism. May he fail miserably. We don’t need a repeat of Germany in the 1930’s.

    1. A little bit troubling is not impeachment worthy.

      Being afraid of what someone might do in the future is not impeachment worthy.

      I wouldn’t get my hopes up.

    2. You are making the mistake that facts like these matter. You need look no further than billyR, mikeN, and rickA to find three prime examples of people who don’t give a rat’s behind about facts.

    3. A little bit troubling is not impeachment worthy.

      But the emoluments clause violations probably are. As would be collusion with the Russians, which has already been demonstrated by the Trump campaign’s failure to notify the FBI about the Russian offer to dig dirt on HRC. And now it turns out that Cohen is saying Trump knew about the meeting. There’ll be more to come, but as Greg said earlier, with the government run by Republican crooks, the Constitution will not be upheld and Trump may – for now – avoid impeachment.

      First, I think there’s more coming, particularly about the mafiya and money laundering down in Florida. Second I think that if the Republican lock on government is broken at the mid-terms, things might get very hot for DT, very quickly.

    4. dean is correct. Facts like these do not matter.

      It is like saying you want to impeach Trump because he is mean or rude.

      Well, being mean or rude doesn’t met the standard for impeachment.

      Why even being WRONG isn’t good enough.

      I wouldn’t get my hopes up.

    5. >failure to notify the FBI about the Russian offer to dig dirt on HRC.

      Perhaps if they had gotten dirt they would have gone to the FBI, just as Steele did(also giving it to media). We don’t know because Trump didn’t get any dirt.

      Everyone in that meeting on the ‘Russian’ side was a Hillary supporter, including a translator who has worked for her and other Democrats. One refused to participate until he was told it would not involve hurting Hillary’s campaign.

    6. If they had told the FBI beforehand, they would have had to open a counterintelligence operation on Hillary, wondering what all her people were doing there. Plus the main Russian was meeting with Fusion GPS before and after the meeting, the same people who commissioned the Steele Dossier. They even wrote the material she presented at the meeting.

    7. Just ask Steve Bannon, who for sure knows more about it that you do.

      What did Stevie say?

      Remind me.

  17. One way of looking at Mueller is that he is like a surgeon operating on someone with a bullet fragment dangerously close to a vital organ. ” I’m sorry Miss Liberty, but you have sharp piece of Trump right next to your aorta, and it would be too dangerous to try to remove it. If we took it out through the legal process, the shock to the electorate from a learning that a Russian agent is president of the United States might prove fatal to Democracy. I’m sorry. There is nothing we can do . We just have to wait and let the body heal itself. It will, in time, build up a cyst of scar tissue around the Trump fragment. It will continue to be painful for a while, but in the end, the problem will resolve itself. We just have to wait.”

  18. BBD raises the Emoluments clause.

    You should read the five part series here (I cite to part 4, which has cites to parts 1, 2 and 3):

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/09/29/the-emoluments-clauses-litigation-part-4-an-emolument-is-the-profit-derived-from-a-discharge-of-the-duties-of-the-office/?utm_term=.db3ca004b94b

    In my opinion, Trump didn’t violate the emoluments clause.

    But we will have to wait and see what happens in court.

    1. “Volokh Conspiracy…

      Not a reliable source.”

      True, if you mean reliable as in factual and rational.

      False, if you’re conspiracy minded.

  19. Meanwhile, in Paul Manafort’s trial, the prosecution said they might not call Rick Gates as a witness.
    ???
    I’ve assumed this was a slam dunk trial, but if their cooperating chief witness isn’t giving them anything useful…

    This really puts a crimp in the one step at a time until you get to Trump.
    Flynn hasn’t been sentenced in over six months, and they keep delaying.
    Papadop is nobody.
    Carter Page hasn’t been charged, or even interviewed.
    Gates pled guilty and flipped on Manafort, now maybe.
    Manafort is supposed to yield Trump.
    There is still Michael Cohen, who would have to admit to perjury before the Senate to implicate Trump Jr in perjury and Trump in lying to the public, trying to get dirt on Hillary, and maybe some other Trump crimes. Awfully suspicious that there is one tape of Trump and 100+ tapes of reporters.

    1. epoch times mikeN, a site that is nothing more than a front for the fulang gong cult? Almost a new low even for you.

      Still, the “scandal” you and they are so breathless about is another nothing. Looking at reporting:

      > Yes, the Capitol Police and FBI Joint Terrorism Task force investigated. Yes, the IT workers were barred from accessing the House network.

      But those investigations found no evidence of links to any foreign governments: investigators did find the workers used one server to store personal information (homework for their children and family photos were the bulk of the material)

      > It did point out a very lax environment around the servers
      >There have been no charges (with none planned to date) relating to House IT work done by the contractors: Awan has been charged with bank fraud resulting from misrepresentation on a home-equity loan application
      > No evidence of international espionage or stolen secrets was found
      > No evidence linking this to the campaign hacking was found

      On a marginally tangential note, the heads of our security groups again said Russia was behind the hacking (nobody else, the Russians) and they are targeting the coming mid-terms. Your attempts to push conspiracies claiming they were not behind things is laughable.

    1. I’m still waiting for you to explain how a ‘Constitutionalist’ can endorse an attack on American democracy by Russia.

      Funny how you will not address this leetle problem directly, isn’t it?

      I wonder who you are.

  20. “I’m still waiting for you to explain how a ‘Constitutionalist’ can endorse an attack on American democracy by Russia.”

    -Your claim is fake. All you have done is issue a link
    of a senate sub-committee making claims which do not
    support your “attack” on America.

    BTW, we are a Republic and a democracy.

    ” Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out”

  21. Here is an account of one of America’s greatest
    allies pulling the wool over our collectivists president
    eyes.

    “I have in my possession a secret map, made in Germany”
    — Speech by FDR about NAZI plans to conqueror the western hemisphere.

    “This is not a lie by US government officials, but still an amazing story: the British Security Coordination project set up to run information operations in the US to push us into WWII. See this description of the BSC in The Guardian. Their greatest success was the fake map showing Hitler’s plans to invade the western hemisphere, a keynote of FDR’s powerful speech on 27 October 1941 (see this story in The Daily Mail. For the full story see British Security Coordination: The Secret History of British Intelligence in the Americas, 1940-1945.”

  22. The left is bad – How bad are they.?

    Remember the tramp from the Conago, whom climbed
    Ms Liberty like a monkey.?

    Listen to her vulgar chant to her fellow leftist bots. I call
    this progressive class.

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