The proper way to kill someone

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First, make sure the baby has it’s bottle. Then call the police and tell them you are going to do it. Then shoot the guy dead. What could be simpler?

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18 thoughts on “The proper way to kill someone

  1. On New Years Eve, Sarah McKinley killed a home invader with a 12-gauge shotgun, saving her life and the life of her infant son. She fired the shot as the stalker broke into her house and ran at her with a 12 inch hunting knife. She had been on the phone with the 911 dipatcher for 21 minutes, waiting for the police to arrive.

    Self Defence Guns are an equalizer when it comes to women (or anyone, really) defending themselves!

  2. Sorry, no agreement with you here. She was being threatened – she sat around for twenty minutes while those two bozos tried to break in – the bottle was to quiet the baby.

    The guy she shot had been stalking her! This is exactly why it is necessary for people to be able to have weapons to protect themselves – if the cops had gotten there within TWENTY MINUTES she wouldn’t have had to shoot him. But they didn’t, so she did.

    Good for her.

  3. In this particular case I can understand taking action. She took steps to put a non-lethal barrier between her and an intruder, protected her child and informed the police of the situation. Only after the assailant entered her home and was armed did she use lethal force.

    Perhaps more interesting is that his accomplice is being charged with first-degree murder because he was participating in a felony that resulted in a death.

  4. Yeah, I don’t see that Greg was saying anything against this. And good for this teen! She was probably terrified, but remained cool-headed and calm. She doesn’t seem to have WANTED to kill someone, but was forced into a horrible situation. Believe me, I’d have done the same thing if protecting myself and my baby.

  5. The 12-gauge is the king of home defense weapons. Easy to use, and nearly impossible to miss with at close range, and it’s pretty hard to accidentally shoot yourself with one..

  6. Here’s some more details ( ):

    “New Year’s Eve, Justin Martin, 24, while Dustin Stewart, 29, was on standby, broke into her Oklahoma home and threatened to attack her and her 3-month-old baby with a 12-inch hunting knife.”

    “”I’ve got two guns in my hand — is it okay to shoot him if he comes in this door?” McKinley asked the 911 dispatcher. “I’m here by myself with my infant baby, can I please get a dispatcher out here immediately?”

    During the 21-mintue phone call with emergency services, McKinley asked if she can shoot the intruder.

    “I can’t tell you that you can do that but you do what you have to do to protect your baby,” the dispatcher responded.

    About 20 minutes later, Martin broke in through the door barricaded by a couch, prompting McKinley fire a shot which killed him.”

    “”Our initial review of the case doesn’t indicate she violated the law in any way,” Assistant District Attorney James Walters told The Oklahoman, saying the act was in self-defense.”

    Interesting that they don’t seem to cover the little problem that a woman/baby called in about an intruder and the police didn’t bother to show up.

    Perhaps she lives very far from the police department. It would never take that long for the police to respond where I live. (For something like this.)

  7. Actually babies should never be given a bottle if they are lying down, and never be given a bottle to go to sleep with. They can choke if the fluid goes the wrong way, milk can harbor bacteria that can proliferate over night and cause tooth decay. Water in a bottle is better, but still not a good idea.

  8. Daedalus2u, I agree. But actually, in this case, the thing to do would have been a small blanket folded at the bottom of the bathtub, put the baby in their with the bottle to keep it busy. The bathtub will deflect bullets. Make sure the drain is clear in case there is a drip.

  9. Here in semirural Elizabeth Colorado we don’t have 24 hour police coverage, so the county deputies are responsible about a third of the time. Given the size of our county and a limited number of deputies response time to a 911 call is at least 30 minutes.
    Keep in mind also that, while the average beat cop would risk his own life to protect citizens, police aren’t actually required to protect anyone.
    We live here partly because we have very low crime. We also have dogs and my I do have a shotgun accessible and has seven loads of buckshot in the magazine. It also would be wonderful if I never need the shotgun.

  10. Well, as a mum I can kind of understand what she did (well, I’d have to use a longbow…), but what baffels me is that she was talking with emergency services for over 20 min and then had to shoot them because nobody showed the fuck up.
    Your country is creating those wild west stories on purpose, I think.

  11. The time issue isn’t at all unusual… police cannot simply stake themselves out at two minute intervals along rural streets. I spent most of my life in an area with a 40 minute response time.

  12. Ryan, its a meme. There are plent of people who live 40 minutes from the cops, but it just isn’t true that most people do.

    I’m the first to complain about cop response times. I’ve blogged about it. But my experience living in progressive cites with real governments and stuff is that when there is a threat of violence and gunfire and so on, the cops rush to the scene and they don’t have to be spaced at 2 minute intervals to arrive fairly quickly.

    Giliell, largely, yes! As I’ve noted, this “remote rural location” is a few miles from the center of a major city. The cops could have gotten there in five minutes and that they didn’t is unacceptable. But that’s Oklahoma. In Minnesota there would be a police chief about to retire.

  13. The time issue isn’t at all unusual… police cannot simply stake themselves out at two minute intervals along rural streets. I spent most of my life in an area with a 40 minute response time.

    I’m sorry that you’ve come to accept such 3rd world conditions in a first world country.
    I live about as far from the center of a middle-size town as this woman does. I rightly expect police to arrive within fucking 5 minutes.
    I know they do.
    In Germany there are actually plans and regulations about how long emergency services are allowed to take. And they have to make sure they can do it.
    Don’t brush of that your lives are treated like shit.

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