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		<title>Are you ready for a national school walkout?</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/ready-national-school-walkout/</link>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The idea is to protest how easily school shootings seem to happen, and how our country has not reacted to this problem ever, other than sending around a lot of thoughts and prayers. You should know that the planning of this event has already been adulterated by either idiotic Americans or smart Russian spies. Watch &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/ready-national-school-walkout/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Are you ready for a national school walkout?</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea is to protest how easily <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/15/gun-control-school-shootings/">school shootings</a> seem to happen, and how our country has not reacted to this problem ever, other than sending around a lot of thoughts and prayers.</p>
<p>You should know that the planning of this event has already been adulterated by either idiotic Americans or smart Russian spies.  Watch carefully and pay attention&#8230; <span id="more-29026"></span></p>
<p>One plan is to have a walkout on March 14th, nationally, which is the one month anniversary of the massacare in Parkview.  This is being organized by the Woman&#8217;s March organization. The walkout would start at 10:00 AM and last for 17 minutes.</p>
<p>There is also a march in March, the &#8220;March For Our Lives&#8221; March, on March 24th, planned for DC. <a href="https://www.marchforourlives.com/">Details are here. </a></p>
<p>In addition to this, there is a walkout planned for April 20th, the anniversary of the Columbine shooting, which is considered a sort of inaugural school massacre for our Era of School Massacres.  The plans for this walkout are not very clear, but a &#8220;change.org&#8221; petitioner came up with the idea: &#8220;On Friday, April 20th, the 19th anniversary of the Columbine shooting I propose a National High School student walk out. Walk out of school, wear orange and protest online and in your communities&#8221;</p>
<p>There is also a walkout of teachers suggested for May 1st. This one is a bit problematic.  It is being called by retired psychologist David Berliner. Between now and then, according to the sadly less than lucid professor, teachers have to agree on the gun legislation they want. If they have not received &#8220;assurance&#8221; that this legislation will become law by May 1st (so that all has to happen at once) then the teachers walk out, apparently forever or until they get the legislation.</p>
<p>There is an internet meme that is a hybrid of those last two. Students and teachers walk out on April 20th, and never return to school. Well, they can return but only after Congress and the President introduce, develop, debate, pass, and sign into law legislation that is suitable and that everyone agrees on, regarding firearms. In other words, on April 20th, the system of K-12 education in the US shuts down forever. Or is this only high schools? Or middle schools plus high schools?</p>
<p><H2>Reality check</H2></p>
<p>And now it is time for a reality check.</p>
<p>First, passions aside, blurting out a plan for a walk out that you&#8217;ve not talked out or worked out or even thought out and expecting people to follow it is out and out selfish and dumb. It makes you feel good, makes everybody else pay for your short term pleasure, produces no results.</p>
<p>Second, and we&#8217;ve seen this before, people with jobs or who are retired, who are privileged, or are protected, have absolutely no right to demand or suggest or in any way support a plan in which those who are vulnerable, who are victims, who are in the trenches, give up their livelihoods or their educations in order to for them to try, unsuccessfully most likely, to get what you think they should have.  Mr. Berliner&#8217;s plan is stupid, he is a dit. And whoever is spreading the Internet meme that the students and teachers have to walk out on the alternative date, April 20th, never to return, is probably a 400 pound Russian troll living in Trump&#8217;s basement.</p>
<p>Now, don&#8217;t get me wrong. I think there should be a protest.  I suspect the Woman&#8217;s March organized event and maybe the March march will come off and be very good.  Perhaps a one month anniversary walkout will be good. But please, do not either a) make the victims of this pattern of massacres pay for your political feel-good ya-ya-jammas, and 2) let&#8217;s please try to do activism that matters, meaning that is well thought out, does more than just &#8220;raise awareness,&#8221; has follow-up, has expected outcomes that we can measure, even if roughly, and that is likely to either succeed, or to fail in ways that have positive outcomes.</p>
<p>And this brings me to this.  This is your number one go-to activist act. If you want to stop the NRA and the gun nuts, then here is what you do. If you are a Democrat, identify the Democrats that are currently running in primaries or equivalent for any and all offices across the country who have taken NRA money and X them off the list of viable candidates. Do not support them, and yell at anyone who is supporting them. Don&#8217;t listen to these politicians&#8217; &#8220;Come to Jesus&#8221; speeches. They made their bed.  Dug their hole. Produced the petard upon which they shall be hoisted.  Don&#8217;t listen to them, just write them off.</p>
<p>And let me be more specific. Don&#8217;t go on facebook and say &#8220;no NRA politicians! Yahhhahgr!&#8221; No. Say that, but then name them. Name the names. Look up all the people running for all the offices in your particular poltical catchment. Your state house, your state senate, your federal congressional district, your US senate, your governor, all of it. Look them up. Find the ones who are NRA funded now or in the past. Then name them. If you only do that first part, your facebook or twitter friends will think you are a good person. But if you do that second step as well, you may well find yourself facing a difficult decision. You may find politicians that you didn&#8217;t know were taking NRA money, maybe one or more that you liked, that you voted for in the past, that you were planning to vote for this year. Then you have to decide if you have what it takes to engage in this act.  You probably do. You are probably fed up. Then, without fail, name the name(s).  Let your socially networked friends know that you mean business, and who is in on this NRA thing.</p>
<p>If you just say you don&#8217;t want to support NRA candidates, that is not good enough. You have to find them, name them, end them.</p>
<p>Then, in November do not vote for any Republican no matter what they&#8217;ve done with the NRA. The Republican Party is the party of guns and of the massacres of children in our schools. Throw the bums out. Throw every one of the bums out.  If a Democrat that takes NRA money got through the process and is running in the general election, and this may be the hardest part, don&#8217;t vote for them either.  That last part might be hard, but you should seriously consider it.</p>
<p>Walk out if you want. March if you must. Protest peacefully with impunity. But in the end, vote for life and not death.</p>
<p>And please, to not ask our teachers to give up their jobs to make you feel like you did something, and do not ask our students to give up their educations to make you feel all juicy-lucy.  That is not OK for you to do.</p>
<p>V is for victory over the gun nuts. V is for voting them out.</p>
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		<title>Rally against the War on Women</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/02/rally-against-the-war-on-women/</link>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 20:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some video: Watch live streaming video from nnsl at livestream.com Ashley Miller of the University of South Carolina is at about 56 minutes. Ashley is also here, interviewed by Voice of Russia about the War on Women. Visit: Unite Women Dot Org]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some video:</p>
<p><iframe width="480" height="295" src="https://cdn.livestream.com/embed/nnsl?layout=4&#038;clip=pla_0d783bb5-9136-4cdd-80a5-da912d836b48&#038;color=0xe7e7e7&#038;autoPlay=false&#038;mute=false&#038;iconColorOver=0x888888&#038;iconColor=0x777777&#038;allowchat=true&#038;height=295&#038;width=480" style="border:0;outline:0" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe></p>
<div style="font-size:11px;padding-top:10px;text-align:center;width:480px">Watch <a href=http://www.livestream.com/?utm_source=lsplayer&amp;utm_medium=embed&amp;utm_campaign=footerlinks title=live streaming video>live streaming video</a> from <a href=http://www.livestream.com/nnsl?utm_source=lsplayer&amp;utm_medium=embed&amp;utm_campaign=footerlinks title=Watch nnsl at livestream.com>nnsl</a> at livestream.com</div>
<p>Ashley Miller of the University of South Carolina is at about 56 minutes.  Ashley is also here, <a href="http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_05_02/73518756/">interviewed by Voice of Russia</a> about the War on Women.</p>
<p>Visit:  <a href="http://unitewomen.org/unite/">Unite Women Dot Org</a></p>
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		<title>Scott Walker RECALLED after weakening Unions, cutting their pay, and threatening them with military action</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/03/30/scott-walker-recalled-after-weakening-unions-cutting-their-pay-and-threatening-them-with-military-action/</link>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Government Accountability Board in Wisconsin voted unanimously to recall Governor Scott Walker following the submission of a petition with 900,000 signatures. (Only 540,208 signatures were required.) Walker was targeted for recall after he pushed through a law last year that effectively ended collective bargaining rights for most state workers. It also forced the workers &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/03/30/scott-walker-recalled-after-weakening-unions-cutting-their-pay-and-threatening-them-with-military-action/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Scott Walker RECALLED after weakening Unions, cutting their pay, and threatening them with military action</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Government Accountability Board in Wisconsin voted unanimously to recall Governor Scott Walker following the submission of a petition with 900,000 signatures. (Only 540,208 signatures were required.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Walker was targeted for recall after he pushed through a law last year that effectively ended collective bargaining rights for most state workers. It also forced the workers to contribute more to their pension and health care costs, which amounted to a cut in pay.</p>
<p>Walker told reporters he would be willing to mobilize the National Guard in order to address potential repercussions from unions.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/03/30/recall-election-ordered-for-wis-gov-walker/">source</a></p>
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		<title>#occupy update</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/30/occupy-update/</link>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Things have gone south in Oakland On Saturday, Occupy Oakland re-entered the national spotlight during a day-long effort to take over an empty building and transform it into a social center. Oakland police thwarted the efforts, arresting more than 400 people in the process, primarily during a mass nighttime arrest outside a downtown YMCA. That &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/30/occupy-update/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">#occupy update</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things have gone south in Oakland</p>
<blockquote><p>On Saturday, Occupy Oakland re-entered the national spotlight during a day-long effort to take over an empty building and transform it into a social center. Oakland police thwarted the efforts, arresting more than 400 people in the process, primarily during a mass nighttime arrest outside a downtown YMCA. That number included at least six journalists, myself included, in direct violation of OPD media relations policy that states &#8220;media shall never be targeted for dispersal or enforcement action because of their status.&#8221;</p>
<p>After an unsuccessful afternoon effort to occupy a former convention center, the more than 1,000 protesters elected to return to the site of their former encampment outside City Hall. On the way, they clashed with officers, advancing down a street with makeshift shields of corrugated metal and throwing objects at a police line. Officers responded with smoke grenades, tear gas, and bean bag projectiles. After protesters regrouped, they marched through downtown as police pursued and eventually contained a few hundred of them in an enclosed space outside a YMCA. Some entered the gym and were arrested inside.</p>
<p>As soon as it became clear that I would be kettled with the protesters.</p></blockquote>
<p>..</p>
<p><a href="http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/01/journalists-arrested-occupy-oakland">Read the rest here</a></p>
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		<title>If there were lobbyists in the 18th century, would there be a provision in the US Constitution &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[Occupy Wall Street]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#8230; to restrict their activities? David Cay Johnston doesn&#8217;t say that, but on reading his essay, I was thinking that. The corporations that occupy Congress won&#8217;t tell you anything you weren&#8217;t already thinking about how the government serves corporations, but it is a well framed and well written and reasonably detailed update that you should &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/12/22/if-there-were-lobbyists-in-the-18th-century-would-there-be-a-provision-in-the-us-constitution/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">If there were lobbyists in the 18th century, would there be a provision in the US Constitution &#8230;</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; to restrict their activities? </p>
<p>David Cay Johnston doesn&#8217;t say that, but on reading his essay, I was thinking that.  <a href="http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/20/the-corporations-that-occupy-congress/">The corporations that occupy Congress</a> won&#8217;t tell you anything you weren&#8217;t already thinking about how the government serves corporations, but it is a well framed and well written and reasonably detailed update that you should read. <span id="more-5779"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>James Madison wrote disapprovingly in 1792 of “a government operating by corrupt influence, substituting the motive of private interest in place of public duty” where eventually “the terror of the sword, may support a real domination of the few, under an apparent liberty of the many.”</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>The late U.S. president’s fears have come to life. For swords, just substitute police with rubber bullets, batons and pepper spray at Occupy demonstrations, including perfectly peaceful ones.</p>
<p>Company reports to shareholders show that among the 30 companies in the Public Campaign report, the 10 firms that spent the most on lobbying during the same three-year period fired more than 93,000 American workers.</p>
<p>Those firings took place in an economy that had five million fewer people with any work in 2010 than in 2008.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think part of the problem is that corporations not only act in their own self interest, but as individual people tend to do, do so only in the very short term, looking only one or two iterations out.  When a major delivery company spends lobbying money to avoid a union, they get to pay their workers less. Good move.  But the lower paid workers pay fewer taxes (and the delivery company certainly isn&#8217;t paying any significant taxes) and they spend less and their homes get foreclosed fueling a baking crisis, etc. etc.  Channel ling more money through middle-range pay grades means more money moving and moving money is the thing that makes an economy work.    </p>
<p>Anyway, go read the essay.  There&#8217;s a nice graph too. </p>
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		<title>“The girls of Egypt are here”</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thousands of Egyptian women marched in Cairo last night in protest of treatment of female demonstrators in Tahrir Square. Their chant was: “Drag me, strip me, my brothers’ blood will cover me! Where is the field marshal? The girls of Egypt are here.” (The reference to &#8220;Field Marshal&#8221; ist ot FM Mohamed Hussein Tantawi.) This &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/12/21/the-girls-of-egypt-are-here/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">“The girls of Egypt are here”</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure id="attachment_1735" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1735" style="width: 350px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/2011/12/21/the-girls-of-egypt-are-here/egyptian_women_protest/" rel="attachment wp-att-1735"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/files/2011/12/egyptian_women_protest.jpg?resize=350%2C395" alt="Egyptian Women Protesting" title="egyptian_women_protest" width="350" height="395" class="size-full wp-image-1735" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1735" class="wp-caption-text">Women protesting in Cairo.  (Phtoto:http://goo.gl/RneKl)</figcaption></figure>
<p class="lead">Thousands of Egyptian women marched in Cairo last night in protest of treatment of female demonstrators in Tahrir Square.  </p>
<p>Their chant was: “Drag me, strip me, my brothers’ blood will cover me! Where is the field marshal? The girls of Egypt are here.”</p>
<p>(The reference to &#8220;Field Marshal&#8221; ist ot FM Mohamed Hussein Tantawi.)</p>
<p>This is the lasrgest and most significant demonstration by women in Egypt in modern times, by a large margin.<span id="more-5769"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>The protest’s scale stunned even feminists here. In Egypt’s stiffly patriarchal culture, previous attempts to organize women’s events in Tahrir Square during this year’s protests almost always fizzled or, in one case in March, ended in the physical harassment of a small group of women by a larger crowd of men.</p>
<p>“It was amazing the number of women that came out from all over the place,” said Zeinab Abul-Magd, a historian who has studied women’s activism here. “I expected fewer than 300.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/world/middleeast/violence-enters-5th-day-as-egyptian-general-blames-protesters.html">nyt</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Clashes between demonstrators and police over the last five days have killed 14 or more people.</p>
<p>During the protest, the Egyptian Military Council turned out a statement of regret over violations to women. </p>
<blockquote><p>The council expressed “deep regret to the great women of Egypt” and affirmed “its respect and total appreciation” for women and their right to protest and take part in political life. It promised it was taking measures to punish those responsible for violations.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.firstpost.com/world/egypts-women-take-on-army-over-abuse-162263.html">npr</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Deadly Cairo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Things aren&#8217;t over in Egypt, by a long shot. A summary from the Daily Beast: Clashes between police and protesters in Cairo’s Tahrir Square continued into a second day on Saturday, with 10 left dead over the two days and hundreds injured. Most of the casualties came late Friday or early Saturday as chaos reigned &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/12/17/deadly-cairo/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Deadly Cairo</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things aren&#8217;t over in Egypt, by a long shot.</p>
<p>A summary from the <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2011/12/17/10-killed-in-cairo-riots.html">Daily Beast:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Clashes between police and protesters in Cairo’s Tahrir Square continued into a second day on Saturday, with 10 left dead over the two days and hundreds injured. Most of the casualties came late Friday or early Saturday as chaos reigned in the Square, only days after the first free election in recent memory for Egypt. Reuters and Al Jazeera reported that police chased retreating protesters—and local television showed one soldier pulling down protesters’ tents and setting them on fire. An Army official said the troops targeted thugs, not protesters, after shots were fired at soldiers and bombs destroyed a nearby archive building that was more than 200 years old. Health Minister Fouad el-Nawawy told Egyptian television that 10 people had been killed, and 441 injured, while state media reported 200 people had been taken to the hospital.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>#Occupy Time Magazine: Person of the Year Announced</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sometimes Time really annoys me with its person of the year. Sometimes it amuses me. This time, I think they did exactly the right thing. What do you think? Here&#8217;s the story.]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes Time really annoys me with its person of the year. Sometimes it amuses me.  This time, I think they did exactly the right thing. What do you think? <span id="more-5719"></span></p>
<figure id="attachment_1662" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1662" style="width: 222px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/2011/12/14/occupy-time-magazine-person-of-the-year-announced/timepersonofyear2011/" rel="attachment wp-att-1662"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/files/2011/12/TimePersonOfYear2011.jpg?resize=222%2C296" alt="" title="TimePersonOfYear2011" width="222" height="296" class="size-full wp-image-1662" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1662" class="wp-caption-text">Time Magazine&#039;s Person of the Year is The Protester. </figcaption></figure>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2101745_2102132_2102373-1,00.html">Here&#8217;s the story.</a> </p>
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		<title>Forbes&#8217; Gene Marks Needs To Check His Priv</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gene Marks, you wrote an essay for Forbes that has gotten a lot of people rather upset. People are upset because you display insensitive unchecked privilege and, essentially, you blame an entire class of people as the victims of what is mostly not their fault but rather, your fault and the fault of the modal &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/12/13/forbes-gene-marks-needs-to-check-his-priv/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Forbes&#8217; Gene Marks Needs To Check His Priv</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene Marks, you wrote an essay for Forbes that has gotten a lot of people rather upset.  People are upset because you display insensitive unchecked privilege and, essentially, you blame an entire class of people as the victims of what is mostly not their fault but rather, your fault and the fault of the modal Forbes reader, as well as society more broadly, history, culture, economics, racism and all sort of other things that are largely beyond the control of the Poor Black Kids of the Inner City of whom you write.</p>
<p>I think you meant well, but you did not do well.  There are many ways in which you display a marked lack of a clue about your topic.  How so?  Let&#8217;s start at the beginning of <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/quickerbettertech/2011/12/12/if-i-was-a-poor-black-kid/">your essay</a>:  <span id="more-5711"></span></p>
<p>You referred to the &#8220;Inner City&#8221; when speaking about the &#8220;Poor Black Kids.&#8221;  Nice.</p>
<p>And when I say &#8220;Nice&#8221; I am being sarcastic. </p>
<p>The equation of &#8220;The Inner City&#8221; with &#8220;Poor&#8221; and &#8220;Black&#8221; is a common thing. It is not entirely incorrect, but it is enough of an oversimplification and it leaves out enough important information that people who write stuff should learn to avoid the term unless they really know what they are doing, and really mean to use it.  If you are not sure how this works, go to your &#8220;Inner City.&#8221;  Find a local neighborhood association office or community center.  Find the people who work there, who hang out there, who make use of the facility.  Explain to them that you are from the suburbs and have a question for them.  That should get their attention.</p>
<p>Then ask them &#8220;Where exactly is the &#8216;inner city&#8217;?  Am I in it now?  Where are its boundaries and who lives in it?&#8221;</p>
<p>If you find someone tolerant enough of your cluelessness to have a conversation with you, and don&#8217;t be surprised if you don&#8217;t, listen to what they have to say. You&#8217;ll learn something about your neighbors, about the people who share a local economy, a local society, perhaps a Congressional District, with you.  I&#8217;m not going to tell you what you&#8217;ve got wrong in using this term because it depends on which &#8220;Inner City&#8221; you live &#8220;Outside&#8221; of.  I don&#8217;t know your neighborhood.  Any better than you do, I&#8217;m guessing.</p>
<p>You make good points about misfortune and skin color and racism.  I think those are the main points of your article, and thank you for writing that. Your audience is mostly &#8220;Outer City&#8221; (if I may twist a phrase) pinkish of skin and upper class.  (Forbes is not a Middle Class mag and you are not writing for a Middle Class audience, just in case you were wondering).  It is good to remind them of these things and good on you for doing that.</p>
<p>Then you say, &#8220;&#8230;. life was easier for me.  But that doesn’t mean that the prospects are impossible for those kids from the inner city.  It doesn’t mean that there are no opportunities for them.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but yes it does. Do you honesty believe that the vast, vast majority of wealth can be concentrated in the hands of a tiny minority of people and there be any real opportunities left for any of &#8220;them?&#8221;  Seriously?  I was born in a transitional family, moving from working to middle class.  I have a PhD from Harvard.  My wife is a Union member and a teacher.  We sleep in the living room because we do not have enough room in our small house, it&#8217;s value has dropped so low that we can&#8217;t sell it for even half as much as we owe on it, I was laid off and have not been able to get a real job in two years.  I&#8217;m a little short on opportunities. Do you think the Po Black Kids of the Inner City nave any opportunities at all if my Middle Class ass is in this state?  I&#8217;m sorry, but you need to get a clue.  </p>
<p>You continue with &#8220;&#8230;Or that the 1% control the world and the rest of us have to fight over the scraps left behind.  I don’t believe that.  I believe that everyone in this country has a chance to succeed.  Still.  In 2011.  Even a poor black kid in West Philadelphia.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to tell you this right away. Using that extra dramatic punctuation does not get you off the hook.  It. Does. Not.  Using the extra dramatic punctuation and pointing out what year it is does not magically create opportunities that were closed off by the greed of typical &#8220;Forbes&#8221; readers, of your friends and relatives, of you, of those you represent. Nice try.  Nice. Try.  But. No. </p>
<p>Then you say &#8220;If I was a poor black kid I would first and most importantly work to make sure I got the best grades possible. I would make it my #1 priority to be able to read sufficiently.&#8221; </p>
<p>Good idea. Do you happen to know what the number one determinant of reading ability of a child in the US is?  No, you don&#8217;t because you are telling the Po Black Kids that they just need to make it their #1 priority.  The number 1 determinant is some combination of what sociologists call &#8220;home environment&#8221; and &#8220;parent&#8217;s education.&#8221;  You are unaware of this (clearly) but the culture of being a great reader is not something a kid wakes up one day and adopts because some white-ass honkey writing for Forbes magazine suggests that he makes it number one priority.  </p>
<p>&#8220;I wouldn’t care if I was a student at the worst public middle school in the worst inner city.  Even the worst have their best.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;And the very best students, even at the worst schools, have more opportunities.  Getting good grades is the key to having more options.  With good grades you can choose different, better paths.  If you do poorly in school, particularly in a lousy school, you’re severely limiting the limited opportunities you have.&#8221;</p>
<p>There you go with your &#8220;inner city&#8221; again. And even the worst have their best?  What does that mean?  Now you are talking about the 1% again.  </p>
<p>Do you know what the number one determinant of getting into a better than average college is?  No, you don&#8217;t.  It is not getting good grades in an &#8220;inner city school.&#8221; It is whether or not your parents went to a better than average college.  You are absolutely correct to encourage kids in &#8220;Inner City Schools&#8221; to do their best in school, but your expectations are utterly ridiculous.  Let me tell you why by giving you an example. From the inner city.  In the early 2000&#8217;s, not 2011. But still. </p>
<p>I know these two kids, black, live in the inner city.  I was dating their mom.  They were smart, like you.  They tried hard to get good grades.  Every time they spent an entire semester straight without anything disrupting their work they got mostly A&#8217;s in the Inner City Public School they went to.  But, they were, after all, black and living in the inner city. This meant that if they went outside and hung around they would get rousted.  Walking down the street, hanging out somewhere, they would get pulled in by the cops, checked for ID, if it happened to be after their curfew locked up for the night. Neither of them through their high school years was ever charged or convicted of an actual crime.  This is because despite wearing the skin of a criminal and living in the denizen of the criminals (did I mention that they were black kids living in the inner city?) they were not actually criminals. But, if you live there, and you look like them, you still get harassed, jailed, and eventually getting picked up the cops enough times will land you on probation.  And then things get worse.  Eventually you spend time in Juvenile detention.  One of these kids ended up in Juvi while the other one didn&#8217;t. That&#8217;s when their grades started to diverge.   The one that ended up in detention ended up later on parole and was required to go to college classes on a certain bus at a certain time and return home at a certain time.  Remember, this kid never did anything worse than being out a little after curfew a few times and being black.  His mom had a college degree and there was a good home environment, the kind that produced kid with higher academic skills.  By the time the older kid was in his second year of college and the younger kid just getting out of high school, trying very very hard their whole lives to do all the things you are telling them to do, they both had criminal records, and one of them had a C average at National American University and the other virtually no prospects of college at all.  </p>
<p>Oh, and did you notice the price of tuition?  </p>
<p>&#8220;And I would use the technology available to me as a student.  I know a few school teachers &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, good.  You know a few school teachers.  Unfortunately, what you are doing here in this essay of yours is prescribing an entire lifeway to a bunch of people of whom you know nothing, and more than a little implying that their own lack of success is because they did not prioritize correctly, which amounts to blaming the victim, and you are basing a key part of your prescription to life on the fact that you know a few teachers.  </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; and they tell me that many inner city parents usually have or can afford cheap computers and internet service nowadays.  That because (and sadly) it’s oftentimes a necessary thing to keep their kids safe at home then on the streets.  And libraries and schools have computers available too.  Computers can be purchased cheaply at outlets like TigerDirect and Dell’s Outlet.  Professional organizations like accountants and architects often offer used computers from their members, sometimes at no cost at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Much of this may be true. Certainly, libraries often do have computers and kids can have access to those computers. And so on and so forth.</p>
<p>But, again, we need a reality check.  There are three things you need to know.</p>
<p>First, the Po Black Kids in the inner city already knew this.  If you have ever gone to an inner city library you would know that they know it. If you go to the library in the inner city before it opens on the weekends you&#8217;ll see this line of Po Black Kids outside and around the block, regardless of weather, waiting to get into the library. There, they are herded into waiting areas by the library staff and eventually given access to the computers, several at once, for limited periods of time.  </p>
<p>Reality one: They know this and are doing it.  Reality two: The 1%, in all their wisdom, have worked the system so that libraries around the country are generally closing, not expanding.   The anti-tax lobby has shut down library after library.  There is more and more need for what you are telling the Po Black Kids to make use of, and less and less of those resources to go around.  </p>
<p>And Reality three: They have been using the free technology all along, and it has helped, but it is not enough.  </p>
<p>&#8220;I would also, when possible, get my books for free at Project Gutenberg and learn how to do research at the CIA World Factbook and Wikipedia to help me with my studies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you know that the teachers in the school YOUR kids go to forbid them from using secondary sources like Wikipedia for most of their research, and that private high schools and better funded libraries have actual reference librarians and resources that make things like the CIA World Factbook only a small and fairly insignificant part of the overall material available to students?  </p>
<p>Yes, all the online and electronic resources you suggest are great ideas.  I&#8217;m pretty sure, though, that virtually every kid in the country already knows about what is out there, and most are already using them. I think perhaps you have misidentified the problem. </p>
<p>&#8220;In Philadelphia, there are nationally recognized magnet schools like Central, Girls High and Masterman.  These schools are free.  But they are hard to get in to.  You need good grades and good test scores.  And there are also other good magnet and charter schools in the city.  You also need good grades to get into those.  In a school system that is so broken these are bright spots.  Getting into one of these schools opens up a world of opportunities.  More than 90% of the kids that go to Central go on to college. &#8221;</p>
<p>I do not know the Philadelphia school system, but from what you are saying here there may be a structural problem that is common in US cities.  A very bad (mainly because it is badly funded) school system does not produce the students who are then eligible for selection for those high end, merit-based schools.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Or even a private school.  Most private schools I know are filled to the brim with the 1%.  That’s because these schools are exclusive and expensive, costing anywhere between $20 and $50k per year.    But there’s a secret about them.  Most have scholarship programs.&#8217;</p>
<p>Our nearest private school has a scholarship program. I had occasion to look into it, because I knew this poor kid who was so academically talented that her teachers insisted that she go to this school.  A former dean from the school wrote a recommendation for this kid, but without funding from a scholarship it would be impossible.  It turns out, however, that the best they ever do is to cut a year&#8217;s fees by about 30%, and that is only for a few students, so this &#8220;school for the 1%&#8221; still costs about the same as a private college, after the scholarship is applied.</p>
<p>No, you see, the 1% don&#8217;t really want those Po Black Kids from the Inner City in their schools. There are scholarship programs. Some schools even claim that 80% (or some other large number) of students get financial help. But, if you look at the numbers, either a very very small number of kids get enough help to make it possible for a Po Black kid of the inner city to go, or it is spread out so almost every student gets something, but every student has to pay far more than even a middle class family can afford without a loan.</p>
<p>In short, it isn&#8217;t really true that the Po Black Kids you are trying to help here can go to prep school.  Duh. </p>
<p>&#8220;Trust me, they want to show diversity.  They want to show smiling, smart kids of many different colors and races on their fundraising brochures.&#8221;</p>
<p>See, here we go back to the first problem with your essay; You have divided the world into the White Privileged &#8220;Middle&#8221; (read &#8220;Upper&#8221;) Class (you and yours) and the Poor Black Kids of the Inner City.  Trust me.  I can use. Punctuation. Too.  There are in fact brown or brownish people who are not poor.  These schools get to have their brochures without getting shit on their hands.  </p>
<p>&#8220;And once admitted to one of these schools the first person I’d introduce myself to would be the school’s guidance counselor.  This is the person who will one day help me go to a college.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, it isn&#8217;t, because you are still a Po Black Kid and college is still not affordable to you.</p>
<p>&#8220;If I was a poor black kid I would get technical.  I would learn software.  I would learn how to write code.  I would seek out courses in my high school that teaches these skills or figure out where to learn more online.&#8221;</p>
<p>So this Po Black Kid that you&#8217;ve elevated to the status of your own kids by sheer will gets to be a programmer?  Why not a manager? Why not the owner of a highly successful start-up?  </p>
<p>My god, man, do you even have an editor there at Forbes?</p>
<p>&#8220;Because a poor black kid who gets good grades, has a part time job and becomes proficient with a technical skill will go to college.&#8221;</p>
<p>Keep saying it. And yes, it may be true, sometimes. But generally speaking, all that is happening here is that you are blaming the victim for a failure that you have no small share in causing, a failure in the system, not in personal will or ability.  But keep saying that, it will make you feel better, and that, clearly, is the point of this whole essay.</p>
<p>&#8220;Technology can help these kids.  But only if the kids want to be helped.  Yes, there is much inequality.  But the opportunity is still there in this country for those that are smart enough to go for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or, as in your case, not so smart but privileged.  </p>
<p>___________________</p>
<p>Related posts:<br />
<a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2011/12/13/even-the-worst-have-their-best/">“Even the worst have their best”: Forbes’ Gene Marks, the 1%, and the Luxury of Second Chances</a> at Greta Christina&#8217;s Blog<br />
<a href="http://motleytalks.tumblr.com/post/14176429314/institutional-racism">Institutional Racism</a> at Motley Talks<br />
<a href="http://www.wnyc.org/blogs/its-free-blog/2011/dec/13/opinion-if-i-were-rich-white-dude/">Opinion: If I Were a Rich White Dude</a></p>
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