Haan ji

Russia, with its aging oil infrastructure and weak environmental regulation, is a great example of the sort of Murka that Trump is heading towards.

Let’s face it. The fossil fuel apologists; the oil companies, Rusher, and the Republicans in general, are very good at undervaluing and despoiling the environment. And why shouldn’t they be? Their exploitation of the world’s resources presents the human race will all sorts of easy living that would not be possible without it. In the minds of the fossil fuelists, it appears that the Earth is here for them to exploit for short term gain, and human convenience and pleasure seems to be their justification.
Any species lost in the process is just so much road kill. Too bad. Tough luck. Sorry.

However, since we are interdependent with many different species on this planet, the attitude that nature is of little or no importance to humans is one of the biggest and most dangerous delusions imaginable.

“Basically, I won’t debate with someone who has such a tenuous familiarity with the truth or civility. Especially if they are on a mission to deceive and distort for their own narrow, selfish benefit.”

Oh dear, stevep, ask and then answers his own question!!!

If you are so concerned about civility, you should address this issue
with K9 dean, the chief civility dean.

Thank you for your sincere effort, Speciousp.

Our county fair still has an opening for a climate jester.

What mandates? The mandates that dictate that we have to read your misrepresentation of other people, including ourselves?
What fiats? The authorization from V.Putin that people who want to discuss climate change will be relentlessly attacked by the likes of you?
What police power? Really, what police power??? What on Earth are you talking about???

You want to have a “healthy” debate? About what exactly? It is quite clear that the vast preponderence of evidence points to various levels of problems and disaster resulting from temperature and precipitation changes in different places. V.Putin, of course, will profit from more fossil fuel sales, as long as he can spew enough FUD into the debate to keep selling his foul products. And Russia, of course, is one of the biggest beneficiaries of polar warming, as more and more of its land becomes more easily habitable. And the United States, for sure, will be one of the biggest losers, as its southern lands become less and less habitable.

So what do you want to debate? Whether adding a million pounds or so of carbon dioxide per second to the air will cause the air to retain more heat due to the molecular symmetry of that molecule? I won’t debate that. Whether adding such a huge burden of acid gas to the air will lower the pH of the oceans with potential to completely change the productivity of the oceans? I won’t debate that. Whether V.Putin benefits when he authorizes climate change FUD? I won’t debate that.

Basically, I won’t debate with someone who has such a tenuous familiarity with the truth or civility. Especially if they are on a mission to deceive and distort for their own narrow, selfish benefit.

Is it possible that the planet could suffer from AGW???

Yes, indeed it could.

Is it possible that the proponents of AGW could be wong?

I will let them answer dat question. Dear readers, there will be
no healthy debate because they are ruled only by mandates, fiats
and police power. After all, they did not even denounce their own kind,
whom wanted deniers charged and jailed. Nice jollyblokes, hey.

You have all heard the old adage, “it’s my way or the highway.”