{"id":25828,"date":"2010-08-09T13:28:22","date_gmt":"2010-08-09T13:28:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/gregladen\/2010\/08\/09\/creationist-college-prof-will\/"},"modified":"2010-08-09T13:28:22","modified_gmt":"2010-08-09T13:28:22","slug":"creationist-college-prof-will","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/2010\/08\/09\/creationist-college-prof-will\/","title":{"rendered":"Creationist College Prof Will Not Return to Classroom"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>An adjunct community college professor had a bit of a problem when it came time to teach evolution, according to certain sources:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nStudent <a href=\"http:\/\/jadeneternal.wordpress.com\/2010\/06\/18\/occcs-article-on-creationist-teacher\/\">Bryan Jaden Walker<\/a> wrote on his blog,  &#8230; that the professor &#8220;glossed over the scientific explanation very quickly (less than 20 seconds), then explained Creationism for about five minutes (5,000-year-old Earth, no evolution, etc).&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Evolution was not taught at all in his class,&#8221; Weis said. &#8220;When he hit that unit, instead of discussing it himself he had a single slide that had both creationism and evolution. When I spoke up and asked him about it, he claimed there was no evidence for either, but they are just different world views.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nWalker complained to the Oklahoma City Community college director of science, Sonya Williams, and was put off by her (shall we presume that Sonya Williams is a creationist?).<\/p>\n<p>Apparently, there was an internal investigation with no real outcome.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;We checked it out and admonished the professor to please follow curriculum protocols,&#8221; [OCCC spokesperson] Jordan said. &#8220;We give latitude. You&#8217;re allowed to teach however you want, but you do have to teach what&#8217;s on the syllabus, and that seems like what happened.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The prof claims that Walker&#8217;s claims are inaccurate, even though it appears that other students have complained previously.  In any event, Talkington essentially confesses to being a creationist who is teaching creationism:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I simply acknowledged that there are other schools of thought. I did not teach creationism. I did not promote one view over another. I did not mention God or Christianity. I stayed within the bounds of what the college allows.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Ooops.  &#8220;I did not promote one view over the other&#8221;????? He did not promote Science over Creationism in a science class? And this was OK with Sonya Williams and the rest of them?<\/p>\n<p>Sorry, but no.<\/p>\n<p>Talkington claims that he is being <a href=\"http:\/\/jadeneternal.wordpress.com\/2010\/06\/18\/occcs-article-on-creationist-teacher\/\">repressed<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><del>This particular college have earned an &#8220;F&#8221; rating in the past from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newsok.com\/topic\/ORGANIZATION\/Fordham+Foundation\">Fordham Foundation<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/ncse.com\/\">National Center for Science Education<\/a> for their lousy treatment of science.<\/del><\/p>\n<p>NOTE: Apparently the original newspaper article on which this blog post was based (silly me, relying on a news paper for information) was very flawed. vhutchison of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oklascience.org\/\">Oklahomans for Excellence in Science Education<\/a> has made a comment below giving some clarification.<\/p>\n<p>But maybe the <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/gregladen\/about.php#YourState\">slack jawed yahoos who live in Oklahoma<\/a> like this.  There is some evidence:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Talkington, who is not teaching anywhere right now and doesn&#8217;t know if he will return to the classroom, said he thinks the case was blown out of proportion.<\/p>\n<p>He said many students loved his class, pointing to students who rated him positively on websites such as RateMyProfessors.com.<\/p>\n<p>Several on the site commented that Talkington was the best professor they&#8217;d had.<\/p>\n<p>Talkington wouldn&#8217;t comment on his views.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;People are looking to debate this issue anyway,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I want to stay out of that debate.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He enjoyed his tenure at OCCC, he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I enjoyed what I did and enjoyed my interaction with the students. I&#8217;m disappointed that one student took it to that level of animosity.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.newsok.com\/article\/3483424?searched=%22Professor%27s%20teaching%22&#038;custom_click=search\">Source<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An adjunct community college professor had a bit of a problem when it came time to teach evolution, according to certain sources: Student Bryan Jaden Walker wrote on his blog, &#8230; that the professor &#8220;glossed over the scientific explanation very quickly (less than 20 seconds), then explained Creationism for about five minutes (5,000-year-old Earth, no &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/2010\/08\/09\/creationist-college-prof-will\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Creationist College Prof Will Not Return to Classroom<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"1","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[207,55,156,87],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5fhV1-6IA","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25828"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=25828"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25828\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=25828"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=25828"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=25828"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}