{"id":24778,"date":"2011-02-10T23:34:09","date_gmt":"2011-02-10T23:34:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/gregladen\/2011\/02\/10\/if-you-do-something-wrong-you\/"},"modified":"2011-02-10T23:34:09","modified_gmt":"2011-02-10T23:34:09","slug":"if-you-do-something-wrong-you","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/10\/if-you-do-something-wrong-you\/","title":{"rendered":"If you do something wrong, you should be fired or killed."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If you do something wrong, you should be fired or killed. Whether you should be fired or killed has nothing to do with what you did, but rather, the context in which you did it.  If you do something wrong in the presence of a legal gun owner with a Conceal Carry permit and a loaded weapon, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?client=ubuntu&#038;channel=fs&#038;q=%22right+to+kill%22+home+invader+burgular&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8#hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=MaxUTZmONcH-8Abdk7iJBw&#038;ved=0CBMQvwUoAQ&#038;q=%22right+to+kill%22+home+invader+burglar&#038;spell=1&#038;fp=5b400d62196447f5\">you simply need to die<\/a>.  If, on the other hand, you have a job and do something wrong, the only possible outcome is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?client=ubuntu&#038;channel=fs&#038;q=%22should+be+fired%22&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8\">your being fired, no matter what it was you did<\/a>.  If the thing you do wrong happens in a context in which you have a job AND are in the presence of a gun-holding conceal-carry permitted person, then you should be <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?client=ubuntu&#038;channel=fs&#038;q=%22fired+then+shot%22&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8#hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;pwst=1&#038;&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=HrhUTYf2HcL-8Aap6Yn8Bg&#038;ved=0CB4QvgUoAA&#038;q=%22fired+then+shot%22&#038;nfpr=1&#038;fp=5b400d62196447f5\">fired, then shot<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>One thing I am pretty sure of:  We are not going to have a major invasion of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?client=ubuntu&#038;channel=fs&#038;q=European+gun+regulations&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8\">immigrants<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?client=ubuntu&#038;channel=fs&#038;q=European+gun+regulations&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8#hl=en&#038;sugexp=ldymls&#038;xhr=t&#038;q=european+employment+law&#038;cp=19&#038;qe=ZXVyb3BlYW4gZW1wbG95bWVudCA&#038;qesig=_XWCHf8Yh0H-5vVAS770RQ&#038;pkc=AFgZ2tnEYCf5JrKWpO5cLRSfLKuapIKD_a1b3RfbuLv5K6JzceWUpsTMyUlpp7SOg8iMsp1G95IYmycG-VrUOD5eZ1tMWBHB1Q&#038;pf=p&#038;sclient=psy&#038;safe=off&#038;aq=0&#038;aqi=&#038;aql=&#038;oq=european+employment+&#038;pbx=1&#038;fp=7828c4946c5db268\">Europe<\/a> any time soon, because we as a nation are so fucking stupid and dangerous that no one in their right mind should really WANT to come <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?client=ubuntu&#038;channel=fs&#038;q=american+excetionalism&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8#hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=x7hUTb6vOsGB8gafr_nbBg&#038;ved=0CCYQvwUoAQ&#038;q=american+exceptionalism&#038;spell=1&#038;fp=5b400d62196447f5\">to this annoying country<\/a> except maybe for a brief visit, unless they live in dire poverty, are seriously oppressed, or forced from their homes.  But I digress.<\/p>\n<p>This thought &#8230; corporal or employment termination as the only outcome no matter what you did wrong &#8230; comes to me with this story about a school teacher who, according to commenters on the news site, should be fired:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Central Bucks School District has suspended a high school English teacher after parents complained to administrators about her blog in which she railed on her students for more than a year.<\/p>\n<p>Phrases on the blog include; &#8220;Frightfully dim,&#8221; &#8220;Rat-like,&#8221; &#8220;Am concerned your kid is going to open fire on the school,&#8221; &#8220;I hate your kid,&#8221; and &#8220;Seems smarter than she actually is.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Those are the words of teacher Natalie Munroe, according to the Central Bucks School District.<\/p>\n<p>  <a href=\"http:\/\/philadelphia.cbslocal.com\/2011\/02\/09\/bucks-schoolteacher-suspended-over-blog-about-students\/\">bla bla bla &#8230;<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Surely, you have noticed this trend.  Someone in a position of employment does something wrong, and the person-on-the-street, if asked, simply says they must lose their job. This is like a Monty Python skit about the middle ages, but real life.  No matter what the peasant does, the King has the peasant&#8217;s head chopped off. And it really is based on pure stupidity.  The average person-on-the-street, frankly is a moron.  They probably don&#8217;t know about things like HR rules and HR departments, about training and retraining, or for that matter, about due process.  Are you certain, for example, that you understand the full meaning and intent of the above mentioned teacher, based on the de-contextualized quotes?  Hey, for all I know, this teacher was seriously abusing her students, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.  For all I know she killed and ate some of the kids when they stayed late!  For all I know, this teacher deserves to be shot!  But, it is also possible that she was playing.  Or teaching.  Playing with words, playing  with the students heads, grabbing attention, challenging them, whatever.  It is possible that she did something very wrong, but it is also possible that she did something very right.  It is not hard to find situations where thoughtless poorly informed reactionary parents grab their pitchforks to chase the teacher (or the school administrator, or for that matter, the entire system of education) into the swamp.  Indeed, everything about education in this country has been repositioned as wrong, ineffective, or in some way nefarious.  The entire system of education should be shot, dammit!  Or fired!<\/p>\n<p>And then there are the people we have to shoot.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/gregladen\/2010\/04\/regulation_of_private_gun_owne.php\">written before<\/a> about the young teenager who entered on a dare what he thought to be an abandoned house.  The old man who lived there alone kept a loaded firearm with him as he slept.  He heard the kid, shot into the dark, and killed him.  The next day we saw neighbors on the news saying that it was good that the kid was killed, so others would learn the lesson.  Indeed, it is widely believed, and commonly boldly stated, that a person who enters another person&#8217;s house uninvited deserves to be shot.  And, not just shot, but shot to death.  The common wisdom for this sort of thing runs like this:  &#8220;If you harm a burgler in any way they can sue you and they have won too, so just keep that in mind. and if u do use force i would make sure its one fatal shot then a second warning shot into the roof (cops cant tell which came first)&#8221; (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wikilaw3k.org\/forum1\/Law-Enforcement-Police\/should-you-be-able-to-use-force-on-a-burgler-508514.htm\">source<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>That the child who was shot by the old man down the street was innocent of &#8220;home invasion&#8221; seems irrelevant.  That a person arrested for &#8220;home invasion&#8221; is not normally sentenced to death seems irrelevant.  If you&#8217;ve got the firearm, and get the drop on any person who happens to be <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?btnG=1&#038;pws=0&#038;q=republican+minnesota+legislator+Scott+Newman+said+Tuesday+it+was+all+an+innocent+mistake.#hl=en&#038;sugexp=ldymls&#038;xhr=t&#038;q=%22accidentally+shot%22+unexpected&#038;cp=30&#038;qe=ImFjY2lkZW50YWxseSBzaG90IiB1bmV4cGVjdGVk&#038;qesig=kNZwQh-GoO8AFjqVo5lbTA&#038;pkc=AFgZ2tmC3B76tkQ6_WkDEYs57915hJCfBF1wkPbhze9X_IIQgoIJqMb_V9oHRe8osW1xYZUyDyoCX-IEdDXbiWMaSXrqGrdq2g&#038;pf=p&#038;sclient=psy&#038;safe=off&#038;aq=f&#038;aqi=&#038;aql=&#038;oq=%22accidentally+shot%22+unexpected&#038;pbx=1&#038;fp=7828c4946c5db268\">unexpectedly in your home<\/a>, just shoot them.  They should be killed.  And don&#8217;t forget to put that extra bullet into your ceiling.  Maybe that way you can also shoot your child who is sleeping in her bed upstairs.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you do something wrong, you should be fired or killed. Whether you should be fired or killed has nothing to do with what you did, but rather, the context in which you did it. 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