{"id":2159,"date":"2008-04-21T20:44:09","date_gmt":"2008-04-21T20:44:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/gregladen\/2008\/04\/21\/what-is-going-to-happen-in-pen\/"},"modified":"2008-04-21T20:44:09","modified_gmt":"2008-04-21T20:44:09","slug":"what-is-going-to-happen-in-pen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/2008\/04\/21\/what-is-going-to-happen-in-pen\/","title":{"rendered":"What is going to happen in Pennsylvania tomorrow?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The democratic party is polling tomorrow in Pennsylvania.  The conventional wisdom says that there is a number of percentage points reflecting Clinton&#8217;s expected win above which this would truly count as a win for her, and below which it could be perceived as a victory for Obama.  If Obama &#8220;wins&#8221; in this election, things could change quickly with Clinton being seen as heading for the door.  However, a win is a win, and even a small margin for Clinton may be seen by the Clinton campaign as, well, what it would be, to be fair:  Winning Pennsylvania.  Were Obama to actually, numerically, win the primary, that would be a huge victory for him.Well, I&#8217;ve analyzed the data and I have a prediction or two to make.<!--more-->Most of my polling data comes from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/epolls\/2008\/president\/pa\/pennsylvania_democratic_primary-240.html\">RealClearPolitics.com,<\/a> which in turn assembles data from other sources.Certain polls they report I&#8217;m ignoring because they are outliers and otherwise look funny.  Two polls look funny but I won&#8217;t ingore:  There is a Democratic party biased poll and a Republican party biased poll.  The Dem-symp poll predicts a Clinton victory of negative 3 (i.e., Obama wins) and the Rep-symp poll predicts a Clinton victory of 7.  So, these polls predict, on average, a Clinton victory of 2%A 2% victory by Clinton would be a blow to her campaign  (but still a win, technically).The other polls that I accept as valid average out to a Clinton win of 5.5%.So, we have two hypotheses, two numbers well within each other&#8217;s margin of error, and thus not scientifically testable.  But the polling is tomorrow, so we have<em> no time for science!  <\/em>  We must go with some dead reckoning on this one.Now, here&#8217;s the deal.  There are about 8,250,000 people expected to vote in this primary tomorrow.    There are undecided between 7 and 8 percent, and a few more percent of people who are &#8220;maybe going to switch.&#8221;  So the slop factor is actually fairly large.There are also approximately 350,000 young people with cell phones (which confounds polsters) who are likely to break towards Obama.So, I&#8221;m going to present two models, one moderately favoring a shift towards Obama, and the other strongly favoring a shift towards Obama.In the first model, the undecided voters split evenly, pro-rated, across the candidates, and the cell phone kids split 60-40 in favor of Obama.  In the second model, the undecides split at 60-40, and the cell phone kids flock to Obama.  What the heck, let&#8217;s make it 100%.In the Moderate-Mo model, Clinton gets 52.7 percent to Obama&#8217;s 47.3 percent, and thus a split of slightly under 5.5%, no big change.In the Major-Mo model, Clinton gets 51.9 precent to Obama&#8217;s 48.1, and thus a spread of 3.75%.So, I predict that the outcome will be <em>between<\/em> these two numbers.A bigger question is this:  Does this range include the magic &#8220;Clinton Looses\/Wins&#8221; number, or is that number above or below that range?  (Since we are apparently not talking about Zero any more as the key threshold.)My answer to this is:  No.There is not a magic number above which a Clinton victory is a real win, and below which it is not.  There are two.  Above X, she kicked ass, below Y, she bombed, such that X is greater than Y by art least a few percentage points.  Indeed, I think X is around 6 and Y is around 3, bracketing the outcome I predict.In other words, it&#8217;s ain&#8217;t over, and I don&#8217;t see no fat lady a commin&#8217;, neither.   (That was for all you hicks that James Carville says live in Pennsylvania.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The democratic party is polling tomorrow in Pennsylvania. The conventional wisdom says that there is a number of percentage points reflecting Clinton&#8217;s expected win above which this would truly count as a win for her, and below which it could be perceived as a victory for Obama. If Obama &#8220;wins&#8221; in this election, things could &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/2008\/04\/21\/what-is-going-to-happen-in-pen\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">What is going to happen in Pennsylvania tomorrow?<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"1","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[33],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5fhV1-yP","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2159"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2159"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2159\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2159"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2159"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2159"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}