{"id":14251,"date":"2012-11-14T09:38:27","date_gmt":"2012-11-14T15:38:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/gregladen\/?p=14251"},"modified":"2012-11-14T09:38:27","modified_gmt":"2012-11-14T15:38:27","slug":"sex-and-gender-in-an-odd-primate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/2012\/11\/14\/sex-and-gender-in-an-odd-primate\/","title":{"rendered":"Sex and Gender in An Odd Primate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Gender vs. Sex question&#8230;referring to the meaning of those two terms in relation to each other&#8230;is standard material for discussion in Anthropology and related fields, but is often left unattended to in day to day discourse.  Both terms have internal complexity, with Gender meaning something about people\u2019s identity as well as being a linguistic term, different but overlapping, and of course, Sex is a verby noun sometimes. But when we say \u201cGender vs. Sex\u201d we are clearly talking about biological things such as chromosomes and genitalia, behavioral things such as attraction and orientation, self image, and so on, as well as the interaction among these things for a given person and for a given person\u2019s interaction in the social matrix.  Broadly speaking, \u201csex\u201d is thought of as biological, \u201cgender\u201d as behavioral, however the last few decades of research and sociocultural maturation of our view of sex, gender and people have complexified this considerably, and the simple versions of these terms are inadequate and earlier, even \u201cpostmodern\u201d feminist constructs tend to break easily.  For instance, what sex is a person with a female-looking body, a vagina, breasts, all that stuff?  Female, right? But what if the person has complete androgen insensitivity?  This individual has testes.  Wouldn\u2019t that make them male? Such a situation, which is not particularly uncommon, does not mean that we can\u2019t conceptualize complexity, it just means that the term \u201cbiological sex\u201d is a bit limited.  <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The other problem with the sex vs. gender distinction is the implication that sex, as a biological thing, emerges more or less through the expression of genes during development and is mostly pre-determined, while gender is more a result of interaction with the extant world.  Imagine a very small scale society where any one individual might ever know well no more than dozens of other individuals.  There are such societies, and in fact, we evolved in such a setting.  Imagine further than an individual grows up in this society with a \u201cgender\u201d that would, in a large scale society such as the US, be best characterized as gender-queer with a sexual interest in other similarly gender-queer people.  But, since this \u201cgender\u201d is somewhat rare and the society is very small, almost every individual that ever grows up in this type of society will never meet anyone like that.  If a gender emerges in social isolation, does it exist? That is more than just a thought experiment, it is a real life thing.  Probably.<\/p>\n<p>In truth, among mammals and other vertebrates in general (as a behavioral biologist I like to step back sometimes) the \u201csex\u201d of an individual is often determined by purely behavioral things.  The sex of certain fish is determined by social context, where an individual will change from male to female, or female to male, depending on the social structure in which they live. In some rodents, \u201cgenetic males\u201d only become behavioral males if their mother, soon after birth, carries out certain activities that initiate hormonal cascades that cause the sexually dimorphic nuclei of the individuals\u2019 brain, and other parts, to become \u201candrogenized.\u201d  If a human in a laboratory simulates these activities with female pups, the female\u2019s gender as an adult may be altered, and if the same human causes the activities to not happen to males, the males grow up as more or less gendered females even though they are \u201cbiologically\u201d males.  And, of course, this maternal behavior is pretty much built in to the mother rodent.  So, where is \u201csex\u201d and where is \u201cgender\u201d for the Norwegian rat?  The line is blurred.<\/p>\n<p>These examples relate to how \u201csex\u201d (including gender, really) is \u201cdetermined\u201d biologically.  Turtles determine sex by affecting the incubation temperature of eggs, some fish by social context, some mammals by anogenetical stimulation soon after birth, and humans by &#8230;. well, here is where we have a problem.<\/p>\n<p>Humans, like other apes and generally primates, have integrated the things that are generally seen among mammals as sexual (stimulation, intromission, etc. etc.) into their already complex social politics.  For most social primates, social politics determine who gets to have sex with whom, as well as other things. In some primates, sexual activities (or really, the term \u201cerotic activities\u201d may be better here) determine things about social politics (which in turn determine things about sexual activities).  Humans have a couple of amazing, unique derived traits in relation to the other apes that make this wonderful wacky world of relationships even more complicated.  Humans practice relative monogamy in the context of multi-male multi-female groups, which is simply unheard of in primates.  Most primate species exhibit multiple sexually selected secondary characteristics in males but only one or even zero in females.  In humans, the vast majority of secondary sexual characteristics are in females, not males.  That is almost unheard of among mammals, though some birds also do it.  Humans, across the societies that have been studied, have sex mostly in private, more often at night than during the day.  In social primates generally, there is a certain amount of hidden sex and a certain amount of overt sex, depending on the species, but most of it is overt, and various erotic interactions that are incorporated into social politics are overt.  In humans, there are all kinds of sex-related interactions that occur overtly, but they are almost all symbolic and deniable.<\/p>\n<p>The point of this is that a bit of anogentical licking here and there, or incubation temperature, or some gene producing some protein or another isn\u2019t sufficient to \u201ccause\u201d gender in humans, while \u201csex\u201d is probably mostly non-cultural or non-social for most, but not all people. This makes sex and gender in humans complicated, with gender being 10X more complicated than sex (where the number \u201c10\u201d is unspecified as to base! Ha!). This in combination with extreme human sociality and population density has resulted in a new human sexuality that has probably emerged over the last 10,000 years in which people who would be unique in a small scale society may well be numerous, or at least, exist at sufficient numbers to have a social identity.<\/p>\n<p>My friend Lux, at Teen Skepchick, has written a very informative and well reasoned post about the Sex-Gender thing, <a href=\"http:\/\/teenskepchick.org\/2012\/11\/08\/gender-vs-sex-important-distinction\/\">HERE<\/a>.  In it, Lux expands and deconstructs the key definitions, presents the metrosexual \u201cgenderbread\u201d graphic as a complex model, and then produces some important criticisms of that model.  Significantly, Lux points out that adding lots of spectra across which people may be located helps to understand the relationships between gender, identity, sex, and orientation, but at the same time creates a new form of pigeonholing that has its own difficulty. (But see the comments on that post for reference to an improved Genderbread person.) Very importantly, Lux rephrases the sex-gender definitional problem in relation to cis and trans.  Finally, Lux broadens the critical analysis to also address terms such as \u201cmen\/man women\/woman\u201d vs. \u201cmale and female.\u201d  I will be adding that blog post to my list of blog posts to keep handy when discussing these issues.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Gender vs. Sex question&#8230;referring to the meaning of those two terms in relation to each other&#8230;is standard material for discussion in Anthropology and related fields, but is often left unattended to in day to day discourse. Both terms have internal complexity, with Gender meaning something about people\u2019s identity as well as being a linguistic &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/2012\/11\/14\/sex-and-gender-in-an-odd-primate\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Sex and Gender in An Odd Primate<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[95,3611,173,4156,4157],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5fhV1-3HR","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14251"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14251"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14251\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14251"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14251"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gregladen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14251"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}