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		<title>Knife Attack in Saint Cloud: Terrorism, Racism, Guns</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Update: From WCCO: An Islamic State-run news agency claims the man who stabbed and wounded eight people at a mall in Minnesota before being shot dead by an off-duty police officer was a “soldier of the Islamic State.” Original Post: We know nearly nothing about the Saint Cloud attack, but I&#8217;m going to offer some &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/09/18/knife-attack-in-saint-cloud-terrorism-racism-guns/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Knife Attack in Saint Cloud: Terrorism, Racism, Guns</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Update:</strong></p>
<p>From <a href="http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/09/18/isis-st-cloud-mall-stabbing-islamic-state/">WCCO</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>An Islamic State-run news agency claims the man who stabbed and wounded eight people at a mall in Minnesota before being shot dead by an off-duty police officer was a “soldier of the Islamic State.”</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Original Post:</strong><br />
We know nearly nothing about the Saint Cloud attack, but I&#8217;m going to offer some preliminary context-related thoughts anyway.  Not conclusions or guesses, just context. (See below for some basic info on the attack.)</p>
<p>One thing you need to know is that Minnesota is a state with the least racist and most socially and culturally enlightened people in it. And, some of the most racist and anti-civilization people in it.  Saint Cloud is, essentially, the capital of the latter subculture, <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=racism+in+saint+cloud,+mn&#038;safe=off&#038;espv=2&#038;biw=1442&#038;bih=916&#038;source=lnms&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=0ahUKEwiqi9SrlpnPAhVq0oMKHU_JALwQ_AUIBSgA&#038;dpr=1">a very racist place</a>. This is Michele Bachmann territory.</p>
<p>This is one reason to be really careful about drawing conclusions about what happened there. When I hear &#8220;Saint Cloud,&#8221; &#8220;Stabbing Attack,&#8221; &#8220;Asked if Muslim,&#8221; and &#8220;Said Allah&#8221; all in the same report, my best guess is that a local Islamophobe tried to kill or injure<a href="http://www.citypages.com/news/st-cloud-is-the-worst-place-in-minnesota-to-be-somali-7976833"> recently immigrated Somalis</a> (of which there are some) in Saint Cloud.</p>
<p>Gun nuts will point out that this is a case of a &#8220;good guy with a gun&#8221; doing some good. It is. But, the &#8220;good guy with a gun&#8221; was a cop. So, really, this is a cop stopping an attack.  Meanwhile, apparently, the attacker did not do a lot of damage to others, because, it seems, he wasn&#8217;t using a gun. He was using a knife. So, no, &#8220;you could do the same thing (as some guy with a gun) with a knife or a piece of string therefore GUN FREEDOM!!!1!!&#8221; is not an argument.</p>
<p>If this does turn out to be an attack BY a Muslim on others in Saint Cloud, I suspect there will be white rage turned into violence soon in that community and nearby places such as Little Falls and Big Lake.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/09/17/us/ap-us-mall-st-cloud-minnesota.html">Report from the New York Times</a>:</p>
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ST. CLOUD, Minn. — Eight people were injured during a stabbing attack at a Minnesota shopping mall that ended with the suspected attacker — who was dressed in a private security uniform and made references to Allah — shot dead by an off-duty police officer, authorities said.</p>
<p>&#8230;eight people were taken to St. Cloud Hospital with non-life-threatening injuries following the attack first reported about 8:15 p.m. Saturday at the Crossroads Center. One person was admitted. &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; an off-duty police officer&#8230; shot and killed the unidentified suspect, who was armed with a knife and wearing a private security firm uniform &#8230;</p>
<p>Local police had three previous encounters with the suspect, most for minor traffic violations&#8230;</p>
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