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		<title>The rat in the can effect</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[To find out more about the rat in the can effect, you can read this book: The Tangled Wing: Biological Constraints on the Human Spirit by Mel Konner, where I think it is described. Here, I will summarize it, in simplified form. If you seriously need to know about this in more detail, do more &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/14/the-rat-in-the-can-effect/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">The rat in the can effect</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To find out more about the rat in the can effect, you can read this book: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0805072799/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0805072799&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;tag=grlasbl0a-20&#038;linkId=1c34fade7bb0b87db7b377cae8e7db86">The Tangled Wing: Biological Constraints on the Human Spirit</a><img decoding="async" src="//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=grlasbl0a-20&#038;l=am2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0805072799" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> by Mel Konner, where I think it is described. Here, I will summarize it, in simplified form.  If you seriously need to know about this in more detail, do more research and don&#8217;t rely entirely on what I say here.<span id="more-31749"></span></p>
<p>Once upon a time there was a psychology research lab looking into stress.  They did this experiment:</p>
<p>Get two distinct samples of rats, as identical as they can be, in every way but one.  For one group, do nothing special. For the other group, have an undergraduate volunteer arrive daily and spend a fixed amount of time cuddling with the rat, saying nice things to it, petting it, etc.</p>
<p>At intervals before, during, and after this period, give the rats a standard test like you do.  This test involves placing the rat by itself on a floor bound by four steep walls. the floor is divided into many tiles, each just a few inches across.  At regular intervals, record which square the rat is in. Over time, one can draw as sort of map showing where the rat spent most of its time.</p>
<p>Non-cuddled rats were found to do what rats usually do in this test. They spend more of their time around the edges of the floor, near the walls.  This is what rats do, spending their time moving along walls and in shadows out of fear.</p>
<p>The cuddled rats, on the other hand, spent their time more or less randomly across the floor, and were also observed to spend more time looking up and around on their hind limbs.</p>
<p>Interpretation: If you give rats loving care they become well adjusted human toddlers.  Therefore, if you give human toddlers loving care, they also become well adjusted human toddlers.</p>
<p>Some time later, a different research group, or maybe the same research group after a few beers, became suspicious of those findings, and decided to have another look at rats.</p>
<p>They performed the same exact experiment, but with one change. Instead of an undergraduate volunteer showing up daily to cuddle half the rats, the volunteer simply picked the rat out of the cage, placed it in an empty coffee can, put the lid on the can, and shook the can around a bit. Not enough to harm the rat, but enough to freak it out.</p>
<p>After the same time had passed with this treatment, the rats were tested in the same way.</p>
<p>The rat-in-the-can rats, the ones shaken around like Folgers, had the same change as the cuddled rats, showing little stress or fear, not hugging the walls as rats normally do, and being curious and looking around more than normal.</p>
<p>Interpretation: Being picked up by an undergraduate, held in the hands, touched with the other hand, made noise at, maybe occasionally brought near the mouth for a kiss, is a rat&#8217;s worst nightmare. The giant predator has come out of nowhere, captured you, and is certainly going to eat, crush, or otherwise abuse you. Every day For days.  Or, being picked up and shaken in a can every day, day after day, is in the end very very stressful.</p>
<p>Either way, the rat becomes over-acclimatized to stress, and beings to exhibit the utterly abnormal behavior of not avoiding further attacks by predators.</p>
<p>Meta-conclusion: Although endocrine systems in humans and rats are very similar and behave in similar ways, rats and humans are not very similar and at the level of the whole organism, do not behave in similar ways.</p>
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		<title>Aging in men: An evolutionary perspective</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2016 16:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Many years ago, Mel Konner, Marjorie shostak, and Boyd Eaton wrote &#8220;The Paleolithic Prescription: A program of diet and exercise and a design for living.&#8221; (It is hard to find these days. To find it and related titles on Amazon, look for this book first, and track the PP down via the author name Konner.) &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2016/10/24/aging-in-men-an-evolutionary-perspective/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Aging in men: An evolutionary perspective</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago, Mel Konner, Marjorie shostak, and Boyd Eaton wrote &#8220;The Paleolithic Prescription: A program of diet and exercise and a design for living.&#8221;  (It is hard to find these days. To find it and related titles on Amazon, <a  href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0805072799/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0805072799&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;tag=grlasbl0a-20&#038;linkId=860ee04a4470bfe1408abd3e38c13450">look for this book first, and track the PP down via the author name Konner</a><img decoding="async" src="//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=grlasbl0a-20&#038;l=am2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0805072799" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />.)</p>
<p>(Added: <a  href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060158719/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0060158719&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;tag=grlasbl0a-20&#038;linkId=d75308c51efdbf6894c073af735b5ee6">You can probably get the The Paleolithic Prescription here</a><img decoding="async" src="//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=grlasbl0a-20&#038;l=am2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0060158719" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />.)</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_23146" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-23146" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://i0.wp.com/scienceblogs.com/gregladen/files/2016/10/bribiescas.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/scienceblogs.com/gregladen/files/2016/10/bribiescas-300x450.jpg?resize=300%2C450" alt="Richard G. Bribiescas is professor of anthropology and ecology and evolutionary biology at Yale University, where he also serves as deputy provost for faculty development and diversity. He is the author of Men: Evolutionary and Life History. He lives in Hamden, Connecticut." width="300" height="450" class="size-medium wp-image-23146" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-23146" class="wp-caption-text">Richard G. Bribiescas is professor of anthropology and ecology and evolutionary biology at Yale University, where he also serves as deputy provost for faculty development and diversity. He is the author of Men: Evolutionary and Life History. He lives in Hamden, Connecticut.</figcaption></figure>That was the first &#8220;stone age&#8221; diet book.  But, it was different from all the others, and the only one worth anything.  Mel and Marjorie were two of several individuals, including my advisor and theses readers, Irv Devore and John Yellen, who engaged in the famous Kalahari Project, in which the biology and lifeways of the Ju/&#8217;hoansi foragers (aka Bushmen or San) were studied intensively for several years.</p>
<p>The researchers noticed that there were differences in lifeways between these exemplary foragers and industrialized people&#8217;s of the West that seemed related to health and well being. They were able to link, sometimes definitively, sometimes tentatively, diet and activity levels on one hand and health on the other. Their findings, by the way, were first published in the peer reviewed literature, then turned, by the scientist themselves, into a popular book.  (One of the findings eventually led to the understanding that there are different kids of cholesterol, which seem to have very different health related implications.)</p>
<p>My own research with the Efe (Pygmies) of the Ituri Forest, in Zaire, was an indirect offshoot of that early work. I got my PhD at the same institution, Harvard&#8217;s Anthropology Department that housed much of the Kalahari project, and the Ituri project was started by the same leader, Irv DeVore, via his students.  So, the tradition of examining the lifeways of modern day foragers, in part to understand ideal human conditions, and comparing those conditions to western ways continued.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, one of the graduate students at Harvard, Peter Ellison (yes, he is related to that Ellison) had been interested in some work coming out of Harvard Medical school looking at hormones and behavior, especially as related to reproductive biology of human women.  Building on that work, Ellison created an entirely new field of study, called &#8220;Reproductive Ecology.&#8221;  He finished his PhD and was added to the faculty at the Anthropology department in one of those in between positions (as was I and many others over the years) but Peter became one of the very few such individuals to be eventually offered a tenured position with the most &#8220;always hire from outside&#8221; institutions ever.  And Ellison created the Reproductive Ecology Lab within the biological anthropology wing of Harvard&#8217;s Department of Anthropology.</p>
<p><a href="https://i0.wp.com/scienceblogs.com/gregladen/files/2016/10/Screen-Shot-2016-10-24-at-11.01.54-AM.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/scienceblogs.com/gregladen/files/2016/10/Screen-Shot-2016-10-24-at-11.01.54-AM-300x254.png?resize=300%2C254" alt="screen-shot-2016-10-24-at-11-01-54-am" width="300" height="254" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-23147" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a>And, they studies the heck out of female reproductive ecology. I had the pleasure of working, almost every semester that I was there from late in my PhD cycle through my post-PhD teaching career there, to work with Mary O&#8217;Rourke (and others) who were from that lab running an undergraduate tutorial.  The tutorial is three or four faculty members each running two or three groups, with about five or six students in each group. These are students majoring in Biological Anthropology, who have already taken a class or two but are on their way into the research labs. The tutorial instructors&#8217; job is to turn these young and interested minds into the minds of proto-Anthropologists by carefully examining a different topic each week, looking at a combination of peer reviewed literature and secondary but excellent literature (back in those days, the former was easier to find).</p>
<p>So, I spent a lot of time hanging around with the Reproductive Ecology people (and, by the way, collecting some of their data in Zaire).  Every social event had a lot of Repro Eco folks at it, so it was pretty normal for someone to pull out a box of specially prepared test tubes to get every one to provide saliva samples for some study or another.  It was not long into the process of developing this subfield that the reproductive ecology of men, simpler but still important, was also taken up by this group, so everyone had an opportunity to spit into the tubes.  For example:</p>
<p><em>Hypothesis: Testosterone in men varies over short time scales (of minutes, hours) during a poker game depending on which cards they are dealt, assuming the samples are not contaminated by &#8230; </em></p>
<p>&#8230; oh, never mind, you get the picture.</p>
<p>Anyway, it was while I was a couple of years into my own graduate career when a young man from California showed up to study anthropology, with a particular interest in Biological Anthropology. It was Richard Bribiescas.  Rick and I did not hang around a lot of time, because we were both busy, but we were good friends and broke bread (a euphemism for guzzling beer but there were also tacos and cheeseburgers) quite often.</p>
<p>When Rick got to Harvard, there was already a strong tradition of working to understand modern human problems in the Western world by examining modern human behavior and physiology in a variety of other societies, including foragers.</p>
<p>Many young men and women went to the field from that department, to work in Poland, Borneo, the Amazon, the Congo.  Among those, very few attempted to work in the most difficult of conditions, in a rain forest with foragers.  Of those who tried most retreated and picked another topic.  A few persisted and continued to study this or that thing about one of the few remaining forager group son the planet. That&#8217;s what I did, with the Efe.  That&#8217;s also what Rick did, with the Ache, of South America.</p>
<p>And, as a result of that, Rick produced a bunch of interesting peer reviewed papers, and eventually, a book that has been out for a while now called <a  href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674030346/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0674030346&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;tag=grlasbl0a-20&#038;linkId=8a2c9cc3e81802671f47eaf28a545800">Men: Evolutionary and Life History</a><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=grlasbl0a-20&#038;l=am2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0674030346" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />.  A number of books had been written about female reproductive ecology, but along the way, rick became the expert on male reproductive ecology, discovering that it is not as simple as one might expect.  This book is the result of that achievement.</p>
<p>And now, Rick is an old guy. He must be at least 45. And, as such, he has turned his attention to a new but related topic: How do men age.  And, the newly produced book that comes from this research to your book shelf is <strong><a  href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691160635/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0691160635&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;tag=grlasbl0a-20&#038;linkId=4a848f57cf8618f1d774485f7a2315e9">How Men Age: What Evolution Reveals about Male Health and Mortality</a><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=grlasbl0a-20&#038;l=am2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0691160635" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /></strong></p>
<p>Do not buy or borrow some book on aging written by a web site, a fake MD, or some other charlatan. Read a book on aging (in men) that first appeared many times in the peer reviewed literature, written by Harvard Trained Yale Expert Richard Bribiescas.</p>
<p>Note the subtitle. This is about what evolution reveals about male health and mortality. Having taught along side him many times, and after all those beers, tacos, and cheeseburgers, I can tell you that Rick knows all about evolution, and of course, he is the world&#8217;s leading expert on male reproductive ecology.</p>
<p>I put the Table of Contents below to give you and idea.</p>
<p>Rick is a great writer, and this book is fun to read.</p>
<p>Do the well known features of male aging have some sort of evolutonary advantage, as has been proposed for females? How much of male aging in the West is a function of our Western lifestyle, or a function of our seemingly extended lifespan? What about the contradiction between what we mere humans think of as &#8220;health&#8221; or &#8220;healthy&#8221; and what the cruel and cold process of Darwinian natural selection things about such silly things? What about sex, relationships, monogamy, polygamy, fatherhood and child rearing, in male humans in general, and across the aging process? And our brains, our obscenely large brains, what the heck are they for?</p>
<p>You will enjoy this book, especially if you are a man of a certain age.</p>
<p>Table of Contents:</p>
<p>Acknowledgments ix<br />
Chapter 1 A Gray Evolutionary Lens 1<br />
Chapter 2 Dead Man’s Curve 17<br />
Chapter 3 Getting a Handle on Love Handles 45<br />
Chapter 4 Older Fathers, Longer Lives 70<br />
Chapter 5 Dear Old Dad 88<br />
Chapter 6 Darwinian Health and Other Contradictions 106<br />
Chapter 7 Older Men and the Future of Human Evolution 133<br />
Notes 145<br />
Index 169</p>
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<p><strong>In homage to an inspiration of this post, <a href="http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/nytimes/obituary.aspx?n=boyd-irven-devore&#038;pid=172588466">I provide this link to the secret, generally unseen obituary of Professor Irven Boyd DeVore.</a> </strong></p>
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