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		<title>Bigfoot might not be real</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/06/06/bigfoot-might-not-be-real/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2019 17:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hereis the Bigfoot Report from the FBI. This has just been released to the public. This report details the analysis of 15 samples of hair and tissue submitted by a citizen, Mr Peter Byrne, director of the Bigfoot Information Center. In this report, the FBI documents extensive correspondence as well as submitted newspaper reports regarding &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/06/06/bigfoot-might-not-be-real/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Bigfoot might not be real</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Bigfoot-Part-01-of-01.pdf">Here</a>is the Bigfoot Report from the FBI.  This has just been released to the public.</p>
<p>This report details the analysis of 15 samples of hair and tissue submitted by a citizen, Mr Peter Byrne, director of the Bigfoot Information Center.</p>
<p>In this report, the FBI documents extensive correspondence as well as submitted newspaper reports regarding Bigfoot.</p>
<p>The samples, it turns out, are from the Cervid family.</p>
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		<title>Minnesota Bigfoot Finds Waldo!</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You may not know this, but Minnesota is one of the centers of activity for Bigfoot. Most of the Bigfoot activity actually occurs not to far from Amanda&#8217;s family cabin is located, and that is also where the Bigfoot researchers are clustered. I know what you are thinking. You are thinking, &#8220;Greg is joking us &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/18/minnesota-bigfoot-finds-waldo/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Minnesota Bigfoot Finds Waldo!</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may not know this, but Minnesota is one of the centers of activity for Bigfoot. Most of the Bigfoot activity actually occurs not to far from Amanda&#8217;s family cabin is located, and that is also where the Bigfoot researchers are clustered.</p>
<p>I know what you are thinking. You are thinking, &#8220;Greg is joking us around again.&#8221;  But no, I&#8217;m serious. Bigfoot is real, lives in Minnesota, and recently &#8230; has gotten involved in politics! Like this: <span id="more-30480"></span></p>
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		<title>Get this book that I have a chapter in!</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/02/28/get-this-book-that-i-have-a-chapter-in/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2017 18:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Karen Stollznow has edited this book: Would You Believe It?: Mysterious Tales From People You&#8217;d Least Expect, and you will find my chapter on page 112. This is a great idea for a book. Suppose Susan Blackmore told you she had an out of body experience? Or that Don Prothero had an alien abduction story &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/02/28/get-this-book-that-i-have-a-chapter-in/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Get this book that I have a chapter in!</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen Stollznow has edited this book: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0692829083/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0692829083&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;tag=grlasbl0a-20&#038;linkId=9c3952c3727958d321617fe593cc873d">Would You Believe It?: Mysterious Tales From People You&#8217;d Least Expect</a><img decoding="async" src="//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=grlasbl0a-20&#038;l=am2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0692829083" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />, and you will find my chapter on page 112.</p>
<p>This is a great idea for a book.  Suppose Susan Blackmore told you she had an out of body experience? Or that Don Prothero had an alien abduction story for you? Or that I claimed I had once hunted down and captured a ghost?  Would you believe it??? Indeed.</p>
<p>You would probably be skeptical if any of the 30+ established skeptics who authored chapters in this book told you that they had a paranormal, psychic, or otherwise impossible experience. But that is what this book is full of: people who don&#8217;t believe in any of these things having these very experiences.</p>
<p>In some cases, the teller of the True Tale of Mystery can explain their experience as a natural phenomenon. In other cases, not, but for some reason, they still believe that what happened to them was not paranormal. Why? Well, read the chapters to find out.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0692829083/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0692829083&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;tag=grlasbl0a-20&#038;linkId=9c3952c3727958d321617fe593cc873d">Would You Believe It?: Mysterious Tales From People You&#8217;d Least Expect</a><img decoding="async" src="//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=grlasbl0a-20&#038;l=am2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0692829083" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> has a forward by James Randi, and a few of the chapters are more theory than observation. There is an afterward by James Alcock.</p>
<blockquote><p>Has anything mysterious ever happened to you?</p>
<p>Experiences of this kind are more common than you think. And they happen to people you&#8217;d least expect, even notable scientists and skeptics.</p>
<p>This collection features personal stories and experiences of the mysterious, as told by Banachek, Susan Blackmore, Joe Nickell, Eugenie Scott, Chris French, Ken Feder, George Hrab, Brian Regal, Steve Cuno, Ray Hyman, and many others, with a foreword by James Randi and an afterword by James Alcock. These are tales about a wide range of extraordinary experiences, including ghost and UFO sightings, alien abduction, Bigfoot encounters, faith healing, séances, superstitions, coincidences, demonic possession, out-of-body-experiences, past lives, episodes of missing time and one case where time stood still. You will read about a poltergeist in a bakery, a genius baby, a haunted concert hall, a stone carving that vanishes and reappears mysteriously, a one-time palm reader, and a former Mormon missionary who once believed he healed a woman of a brain tumor.
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<p>Indeed, when Karen asked me to write a chapter for the book, and if I had any stories of this kind, several such experiences came to mind.  I didn&#8217;t mention to her two UFO observations I had made as a kid (one seemingly bogus even at the time although all the adults bought it as real, the other very realistic and still a bit difficult to explain).  I did have a more recent, adult-age, UFO experience that I could easily explain that I put on the initial list to consider. Also, having grown up in an old-world style religious household (not American evangelical Christian, but rather, Midlevel demonic possession poltergeisty Central European and Irish Catholic style household), I had a lot of stories handed on to me from relatives, including one harrowing story having to do with <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062094351/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0062094351&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;tag=grlasbl0a-20&#038;linkId=0d2054d2e51b41a673959b0387be8183">Exorcist</a><img decoding="async" src="//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=grlasbl0a-20&#038;l=am2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0062094351" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> style levitation, vomiting of green goo, and all that.  And, of course, there are those non drug induced time shifting experiences and the pets that can read your mind and all that.  I settled on the story about the ghost because it is the best story for the telling.</p>
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		<title>How to find a Leprechaun</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2013 15:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nature editor and author Henry Gee has produced his Christmas list in which he describes his three wishes as an editor at a scientific journal; he enumerates the scientific discoveries that sit at the top of his professional &#8220;bucket list.&#8221; I started to write a comment on Henry&#8217;s blog post, here, but it turned into &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/12/01/how-to-find-a-leprechaun/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">How to find a Leprechaun</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nature editor and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Henry-Gee/e/B001IO9QAC/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1">author</a> Henry Gee has produced his Christmas list in which he describes his three wishes as an editor at a scientific journal; he enumerates the scientific discoveries that sit at the top of his professional &#8220;bucket list.&#8221;</p>
<p><figure id="attachment_18251" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-18251" style="width: 200px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://i0.wp.com/scienceblogs.com/gregladen/files/2013/12/4b01333a9db90ad8956e2a.L._V388021555_SX200_.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/scienceblogs.com/gregladen/files/2013/12/4b01333a9db90ad8956e2a.L._V388021555_SX200_.jpg?resize=200%2C226" alt="Henry Gee. Not a Leprechaun. " width="200" height="226" class="size-full wp-image-18251" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-18251" class="wp-caption-text">Henry Gee. Not a Leprechaun.</figcaption></figure>I started to write a comment on Henry&#8217;s blog post, <a href="http://occamstypewriter.org/cromercrox/2013/12/01/christmas/">here</a>, but it turned into a blog post of my own, here:</p>
<p>Henry: As you know, I address  in a fictional context in &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Sungudogo-Greg-Laden-ebook/dp/B009R8ASRG">Search for Sungudogo</a>&#8221; (now only 99 cents on Amazon) all three of your wishes, the discovery of life elsewhere in the universe, the discovery of intelligent life somewhere, and the documentation of non-human hominids in recent times (including the present) like, but later than, the &#8220;Hobbit&#8221; at Flores.  (<a href="mailto://laden.greg@gmail.com">Drop me a line</a> for a review copy.)  In the revised version of the novella I also explain the origin of Penn and Teller.  But I digress.</p>
<p>The chance of the existence of <em>Homo notspaiens</em> at present must be zero, unfortunately.  But I do like the idea of proto-historical or historical cases.  &#8220;Like&#8221; as in how a TV detective &#8220;likes&#8221; a particular suspect for a particular crime. Maybe it is just a hunch.  A re-examination of all those cases in the sepia literature of little people or not-quite-humans thought to be imagination, serious confusion, or out and out racism may be necessary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to put a finer point on the prediction though.  The hominid needs to have existed after some key point in time (which may be hard to identify on the ground but that could be fairly easily defined as an archaeological or historical transition).  For example, post first writing or post settled horticulture.  Flores already fits the obvious next oldest criterion of post Last Glacial Maximum (LGM). Also, and this is not a requirement but it would be way cool, I  would like them to have existed at the same time as and in the same region as the Wrangle Island Mammoths because then tiny people-like creatures could have hunted, or ridden, or otherwise lived among, tiny furry elephants.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ll offer a prediction of where the hominid would have lived.  It is most likely to be in an area where the landscape has two distinct habitats that are long term and well defined.  One is a habitat likely to be inhabited long term by regular humans and the other where regular humans are likely to forage or visit only now and then, but where this second, marginal, habitat is livable.  Also, it is more likely at the outer edge of post-LGM expansion, and in a region where human population would not have been dense prior to the great Exchange of Horticultural Products that began in the 15th century. (In fact if I were to pick the most likely local date formula for the extinction of <em>Homo notsapiens</em> globally, if there were a bunch of them, it would be the introduction of yams, manioc, maize, taro, or other staple plant brought in from the other side of the planet to grow locally.)  This means the Flores hominid may have chipped its last rock when cassava or corn were first planted in the region, which would be very late and easily meet your criteria.  I assume people are looking vigorously.</p>
<p>Yes, I just described Flores, but that&#8217;s the point.  Those are the characteristics that allowed for the Indonesian Leprechaun.  We might look at regions covered by the last glacial ice mass, regions far to the east of Africa, dense tropical rain forest, etc.</p>
<p>This also predicts that stories of &#8220;the little people&#8221; (or &#8220;the big people&#8221; depending) would be distributed more commonly in a certain region of the world&#8217;s map.  Like this, maybe (and roughly):</p>
<figure id="attachment_18250" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-18250" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://i0.wp.com/scienceblogs.com/gregladen/files/2013/12/world-physical-map.jpg__1200×778_.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/scienceblogs.com/gregladen/files/2013/12/world-physical-map.jpg__1200×778_-300x196.jpg?resize=300%2C196" alt="Where to look for lepruchans or big foots. " width="300" height="196" class="size-medium wp-image-18250" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-18250" class="wp-caption-text">Where to look for Leprechauns or Bigfoots.</figcaption></figure>
<p>I&#8217;ve ruled out the new world simply because.  Bad reason, I know.  It is entirely possible that the New World was thickly inhabited by Taltos and Leprechauns, the only really solid argument against that being a complete lack of evidence&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Balancing Acts in Science</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 15:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How do you know when alternative views are real alternatives, and thus should be considered in a &#8220;balanced view&#8221; vs. when those views are not any longer valid and should be ignored? This sounds like a hard thing to do but it is not as hard as you might think. I suggest two different approaches: &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/25/balancing-acts-in-science/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Balancing Acts in Science</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know when alternative views are real alternatives, and thus should be considered in a &#8220;balanced view&#8221; vs. when those views are not any longer valid and should be ignored?  This sounds like a hard thing to do but it is not as hard as you might think.  I suggest two different approaches:  &#8220;Tipping Points&#8221; and &#8220;Clues that Something is Wrong Here.&#8221;</p>
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The Tipping Point approach works like this:  As the percentage of qualified scientists that hold a particular view diminishes, when it reaches about 25 percent or so, the view should continue to be references but as a minority view.  Many points of view have been around that range  in the past and we are glad we did not eliminate them.  For instance, the role of Archeopteryx in bird evolution has moved in and out of favor such that what may well be the correct view may have been close to that sort of minority at various times in the past.  As plate tectonics started to develop as a theory, it was held at about this level of minority for a while.  The idea of particulate inheritance lost favor for decades prior to the New Darwinian Synthesis, and may have been in that range for a while.  Minority vies should be maintained, but labeled clearly as such, in science reviews or in policy development.</p>
<p>But when that view goes to single digits, something else happens.  We remember that the percentage of people who think that they&#8217;ve been abducted by aliens, or that are certain they&#8217;ve seen ghosts, or other impossible things, is around there.  If 90 percent of scientists in a given field thing that A is likely correct and B is not, then is time to start ignoring B.</p>
<p>The second aproach, &#8220;Clues that Something is Wrong Here,&#8221; works quite differently. Some people are going to not like this approach because it rings of ad hominem argumentation or argument from authority.  And it is.  But note that this is the second approach being suggested for a reason, and I think once you see how it works you&#8217;ll agree that it is valid.</p>
<p>There are many possible clues, and I suggest only a few here:</p>
<ul>
<li>The main proponents of the minority opinion are not part of the mainstream science.</li>
<li>The most vocal proponents of the minority opinion are often politicians who are linked to a party or political movement with a priori reasons to hold this point of view.</li>
<li>The main arguments being made at the policy level are non-scientific, and often include accusations of unfairness or bias.</li>
<li>The main arguments made at the policy level about the validity of a certain interpretation of the available evidence is that it should be given more consideration because no one believes it any more. In other words, the argument is made that a particular point of view is right because the vast majority of practitioners in the field are certain that it is wrong.</li>
<li>The victimization of the minority point of view starts to come into play.</li>
<li>The appeal to support the fading minority point of view shifts primarily from the scientific community to easily swayed politically motivated members of the public.</li>
<li>The appeal to support the fading minority point of view shifts primarily to those calling for investigative agencies to intervene on behalf of the view that is widely seen as wrong.</li>
<li>And finally, the primary argument against the fading, by now fully discredited point of view is reference to the idea that there must be a conspiracy afoot against it, otherwise why would it appear to be completely wrong.  And therefore it must be correct </li>
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<p>You can see now why this is not a simple argument from authority or ad hominem.  What has happened in the typical case is that those still stumping for the incorrect view are no longer valid experts, but rather, biased political entities or crazy people (or some combination of the two).  There isn&#8217;t a single zoologist who thinks Bigfoot is real. Today, bigfoot &#8220;exerts&#8221; are either charlatans or disturbed individuals.  There is not a single evovlutionary biologist who things the earth is 6000 years old. Today, each and every Young Earth Creationist is a preacher or a con artist or, again, disturbed. There are almost no climate scientists who think that Global Warming and other related climate change is not a) real and b) human caused in the majority.  Those who defy this point of view these days are either in the employ of energy companies or, perhaps, Tea Partiers or biased Senators.  It is not an ad hominem argument because the validity of the science is not being questioned on the basis of qualities (or lack thereof) of those supporting the views, but rather, the minority view is being ignored because those still professing it are not qualified to even enter the debate to begin with.</p>
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