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		<title>On the Ownership of Large Dangerous Wild Animals</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Years ago, I read an old newspaper account of chaos in 19th century New York City; A storm damaged many of the cages at the Central Zoo, and most of the wild animals got out. The next day or two was spent rounding up the animals, and even the mayor and the governor, who were &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/10/23/on-the-ownership-of-large-dang/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">On the Ownership of Large Dangerous Wild Animals</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago, I read an old newspaper account of chaos in 19th century New York City; A storm damaged many of the cages at the Central Zoo, and most of the wild animals got out. The next day or two was spent rounding up the animals, and even the mayor and the governor, who were experienced big game hunters, got involved in tracking down the rhino and the hippo and the lions and the rest of them.</p>
<p>A few months ago, for some reason, that story re-emerged in my memory for the first time in decades, so I went and looked it up and found out that it was a hoax.  I don&#8217;t remember if I knew it was a hoax when I first read it &#8230; I think not.  I think I read it in a magazine at the dentist office and never followed up on it.  As stories go, it&#8217;s a great story.  As hoaxes go, not so much.  A bad hoax of a great story adds up to &#8230; uninteresting.</p>
<p>But last weeks events were neither uninteresting nor a hoax.</p>
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<p>Terry Thompson was a gun aficionado and collected wild animals.  He recently served time for a weapons related violation (possession of sniper rifles and machine guns), and he&#8217;s had several citations against him for animal cruelty or abuse.  If sensible firearms regulations were in place and enforced, and sensible animal welfare rules were in place and enforced, Terry Thompson would not have been allowed to possess a firearm or some fifty plus &#8220;exotic animals.&#8221;</p>
<p>But he possessed both, and the other day he set all of his animals free and then shot himself to death.  This caused local police authorities to have to shoot forty-nine of the wild animals.  (One of them was not shot because it was eaten by one of the other ones)</p>
<p>As best I can make out, this is the list of animals that were released and killed:</p>
<p>18 Bengal tigers<br />
17 lions<br />
2 Grizzly bears<br />
6 black bears<br />
1 baboon<br />
3 mountain lions<br />
2 wolves<br />
1 Macaque (probably eaten by one of the cats)</p>
<p>It seems that after Thomson shot himself, one of the larger carnivores dined briefly on his head.  Another half dozen or so animals were apparently not killed, were captured alive, or perhaps not released.</p>
<p>Police had a hard time dealing with this.  They were getting reports of large wild animals roaming about. They tried using tranquilizers but that wasn&#8217;t going well. In the end, they shot a lot of animals that I reckon they didn&#8217;t want to have to shoot, and then they had to drag them all together and dispose of them.</p>
<p>So yeah, it was a little like that story which was a hoax, but not as glamorous.  Mostly, just one big mess.  Caused by someone owning wild animals who should not have been allowed to do so.  And guns.  He shouldn&#8217;t have had the guns either.</p>
<p>People do own large dangerous animals responsibly, but it is probably difficult to monitor this activity, and thus difficult to tell when a responsible company or organization has started to go bad. The thing that happened in Ohio is not what we expect to see with every individual or organization that owns a few tigers or bears or lions &#8230; this was extreme &#8230; but hidden behind the more spectacular newsworthy stories are a lot of animals in bad conditions in private hands.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say that I&#8217;m totally opposed to the ownership of large dangerous exotic animals.  But it should be very heavily regulated, by federal authorities, and done for the right reasons, which are pretty limited in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>Animal Rights and Human Needs: Foundations of the debate (Part II)</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Continued from Part 1 &#8230; Animal rights are arbitrarily granted or assumed If human rights are arbitrarily assigned, so are animal rights. The argument has been made that animals with certain properties &#8230; sentience (the definition of which moves somewhat), phylogenetic closeness to humans, or the ability to feel pain, etc. &#8230; should share some &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/03/21/animal-rights-and-human-needs-1/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Animal Rights and Human Needs: Foundations of the debate (Part II)</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/03/animal_rights_and_human_needs.php">Continued from Part 1 &#8230; </a><br />
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<strong>Animal rights are arbitrarily granted or assumed</strong></p>
<p>If human rights are arbitrarily assigned, so are animal rights. The argument has been made that animals with certain properties &#8230; sentience (the definition of which moves somewhat), phylogenetic closeness to humans, or the ability to feel pain, etc. &#8230; should share some protections against painful procedures, death, or being caged because of those properties. Sorry, but no.  While it could be argued that the more human a non-human animal is the more like humans they should be treated, that simplistic view in and of itself leaves out the fact that we have only by convention assigned certain expectations to the treatment of our own species.  If it is arbitrary for us, it is arbitrary for them.</p>
<p>In truth, we are not going to be able to avoid some scheme for assigning animal protections, and it is likely to relate to what we do with humans somehow.  I just feel that it is important to undermine the power of such arguments.  They are arbitrary, post hoc, and and they should not be fetishized.</p>
<p><strong>Although it is arbitrary, the anthropocentric circle is reasonable</strong></p>
<p>In fact, I would argue that an anthropocentric, phylogenetic approach is reasonable because it combines many of the things that people want to see in a set of rules about treatment of non-human animals.  It is important to note that this does not preclude other rights-granting arguments; we&#8217;ll get to that later.</p>
<p>First it should be noted that the fact that humans have no very close relatives that are only barely a different species is an historically contingent fact.  I think it is a very meaningful fact, so let&#8217;s be very clear about this and take a little digression with a discussion of evolutionary patterns.</p>
<p>Among vertebrates, it is possible to find cases where a close relative is very close phylogenetically.  The southern oryx and the northern oryx in Africa, or the different kinds of gazelles, and many pairs of antelope or cervid, for instance, are all very close phylogentically. If you know all about one species, you automatically know almost all about the species that is its closest living relative.  In other cases, this is not true.  Pick a random persiodactyl and you may have very different results.  A white rhino is not that similar to a black rhino, and the southeast Asian rhinos are different still, and the nearest relative to rhinos is nothing at all like a rhino.</p>
<p>So there are sets of species that are like bouquets of similar flowers &#8230; a dozen roses of differing color, all roses, noticeably different in one attribute, but they all smell the same.  And, there are sets of species that are like a display rack in a Hello Kitty store. Although one gets the feeling that there is some basic similarity (in this case overwrought cuteness and a lot of pink) two items hanging next to each other may be designed for utterly different purposes, made of utterly different materials, and of interest to utterly different people.</p>
<p>The clade that includes humans is in that second category.  Our nearest relative is plenty like us, but also plenty different.  The rhinos and their relatives (including horses, etc.) are disparate because they diversified a very long time ago, and since then have taken it in the neck competitively from other clades, mainly the artiodactyls (bovids, deer, antelopes) and have lost a lot of the branches  of their evolutionary bush.  The artiodactyls, on the other hand, got their shot at diversity more recently, and are in fact in the middle (or near the end) of their adaptive radiation. So, there are a lot of very similar artiodactyls because most of these species only recently arose.  The difference between the two clades has to do with history and competitive exclusion, as well as lots of chance and circumstance, and this is typical in comparing any two vertebrate clades. Our clade &#8230; the great apes &#8230; is also the way it is &#8230; disparate and devoid of very many close sister species &#8230; because of its history.</p>
<p>Many, including possibly me, think this has to do at least to some extent with human competitive exclusion which is a well documented phenomenon; we have killed off our nearest relatives, typically, throughout prehistory for at least the last two million years. This may be a defining feature of our genus.  It may have been such a consistent fact of biogeography for so long and across so much space that it might be foolish to assume that the minimum of 12 million years of evolutionary history that separates us from our nearest relatives is a random fact of phylogeny.</p>
<p>So it is quite possible that our &#8220;nearness&#8221; to chimpanzees, our nearest relatives, is of no consequence.  It is possible, in an alternative world, that our nearest living relative is an amoeba.  We would not be granting rights to the amoeba just because they are our nearest living relative.</p>
<p>But our nearest relatives are not amoebas: Some of the salient traits that humans posses that we tend to regard as special are not found widely among non-human animals, but they are found in relatively close relatives.</p>
<p><H3>The Smart Monkey Effect </H3></p>
<p>An animal rights policy that specifies certain traits &#8230; the ability to count, the ability to communicate symbolically, the ability to distinguish between the Jerry Springer Show and Oprah (regardless of one&#8217;s preference), etc &#8230; will quickly run aground when applied more broadly to our evolutionary tree.  A special human trait might be found in chimps, but no other apes.  But then, this trait could pop up in one or more primates much more distantly related.</p>
<p>Every now and then, a trait thought to be found only in humans, or only in apes, or only in humans and chimps, a trait that might make a good phylogenetic marker to circumscribe a phylogenetically coherent special class of animals to which we afford a common right, is found in some other species such as non-ape primates or even non-primates. Sometimes these are cases of a trait looking similar between two species by analogy, but often they are just as likely to be real homologies, especially when found in primates. There is a general tendency for certain behaviors &#8230; we can call them proto- or quasi-symbolic behavior perhaps &#8230; to arise within primates in general, perhaps more or less randomly along the several hundred primate species that exist, more often but not exclusively in apes.</p>
<p>Certain non-human primates seem to be exceptionally &#8220;smart&#8221; (human-like) and &#8220;symbolic-ish&#8221; in their behavior but the literature is unclear about the distribution of human-like traits. Among the great apes there is probably not a lot of difference between chimps, gorillas, and orangs in overall smartosity, but there are very few behavioral lab results showing sub-linguistic, symbolic, or other human-esque behavior for orangs (most of the indicative data comes from the field).  Gorillas seem to be lousy research subjects.  Koko the gorilla failed the Gallup test again and again, but one day while being led back to her enclosure, I&#8217;ve heard, after once again failing the test, stopped at a randomly placed mirror in a hallway and used it to adjust the hair on her head, which amounts to passing the Gallup test that otherwise had been at that time only passed by humans and chimps.  Chimps, especially bonobos, seem like over-eager teacher-pleasing suck-ups when it comes to behavioral research.  For this reason we should be very careful about the use of scientific evidence at face value to be overly specific about which primates (or other  animals) have which human-like traits.   This almost certainly applies to apes, and it may apply to primates in general.</p>
<p>When a human-like trait is seen in another animal, it may or may not really be the same trait.  It might be something that looks like the human-like trait but underlying it, neurologically, is a very different process.  Elephants have evolved certain very human-like traits with very non-human brains.  The fact that they treat their dead with what looks to us like reverence, including returning to the remains, burial of the remains, and other behaviors, does not mean that their brains have crossed some phylogentic/anatomical chasm to be more like humans. Rather, it means that similar behaviors have arisen, in this case probably for similar evolutionary reasons.  Intergenerational importance and longevity of &#8220;cultural&#8221; knowledge is probably critical for elephants in the wild, as is the case with humans, and perhaps in both cases reverence for the elderly and the dead emerges as an effect.</p>
<p>This does not make elephants more human.  It does, however, make the special human trait of treatment of the dead more mundane.  Perhaps reverence for the dead and the concept of post-life sentience is a more general mammalian trait than we thought, or even a widespread organism-with-brain trait, that happens to be highly developed in humans. In other words, asserting that this trait, or any other trait that is seen as human-like and special to humans found in a distant relative is not necessarily evidence that those distant related animals should be treated like humans, but rather, that humans should not be treated so differently from those distantly related animals just because humans have that trait.</p>
<p>Elephants, honey bees and parrots all show human-like traits with different evolutionary histories and different neurological substrates.  This is not earth shattering.  Behavioral  scientists  have understood for decades that analogy is not homology, and behavioral biologists reasonably assume that if there are phylogenetic gaps between instances of specific traits, that analogy is more likely an explanation, and if there are no or few gaps,  homology is more likely.  Furthermore, if the basic neurological system and sensory modalities underlying the traits is similar, homology is more likely and analogy less likely.</p>
<p>An example is the trait of facial contact to indicate warmth, love, closeness.  Mothers touch their face to their baby&#8217;s face, lovers mush each others faces together, and so on. So, when your cat is all over your face with her face, that&#8217;s love, right?  Well, it probably is in some way, but it is also said to be marking by the cat of part of its territory. If you watch the cat long enough, you will observe it &#8220;lovingly&#8221; rubbing its face on other cats, on the legs of chairs, on the ground, on a bush, on a book, or a can of soup.  Cats live in an olfactory world and they have scent glands used for contact marking on their heads.  It may well be that your cat is not simply marking you as territory. House cats are social.  They may be using the face marking as a social signal of solidarity kinda, sorta, like how humans mush their faces together.  But while face mushing &#8220;means&#8221; love and attachment in humans, it probably signifies a state of association in cats that means &#8220;Don&#8217;t eat this one. Yet.&#8221;  It only looks like the human act, which is a combination of sensory melding and cerebral symbolically mediated bonding.</p>
<p>But when chimpanzees kiss, that is likely different.  Chimpanzees have human-like brains, and humans and chimps share cerebral and limbic systems and syndromes that are distinct from cats and other carnivores.  The list of &#8220;emotions&#8221; one would see in a cat is not the same as the list one would seen in a chimp, but human and chimp emotions are very much overlapping.  Chimps seem to do &#8220;kissing&#8221; in similar contexts to humans outside of pair bonding.  (Chimps don&#8217;t have pair bonding.)</p>
<p><strong>(<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2013/02/05/the-kiss-2/">For more on humans mushing their faces together see this.</a>)</strong></p>
<p>The reason the chimpanzee kisses and some human kisses are probably similar is because of the similarity of the underlying neurological substrate, the similarity of sensory modalities  (and thus of communicative process), the contextual similarity, and a likely evolutionary commonality. And these things are all true for one reason:  Phylogentic propinquity.</p>
<p>Therefore, even though each and every right assigned to animals or to humans, or even to aliens, might be arbitrary, if we assign a right to humans, it seems reasonable to suggest that this right should be considered more seriously for those closely related to humans than it should be for those distantly related.  So, although the underpinnings of this idea may be arbitrary, it&#8217;s implementation is not.</p>
<p>As a result, it can be asserted that in the absence of mitigating circumstances or other effects, the following concentric circles exist: Humans; The Great Apes, possibly ordered phylogenetically but for many reasons left as a unary group; The Old World Monkeys and New World Primates possibly ordered but, again, arguably left as a unary group; prosimians; mammals &#8230; dot-dot-dot &#8230; amoebas.</p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/03/animal_rights_and_human_needs_2.php">&#8230; to be continued &#8230;</a></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[What rights should be afforded non-human animals, to which animals, under what circumstances, and why? What are the criteria for such decisions? What should those who disagree with the status quo do? In my view, some rights should be given to some animals, depending on circumstances. I believe the criteria for this decision are more &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/03/20/animal-rights-and-human-needs/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Animal Rights and Human Needs: Foundations of the debate (Part I)</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What rights should be afforded non-human animals, to which animals, under what circumstances, and why?  What are the criteria for such decisions?  What should those who disagree with the status quo do?<br />
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In my view, some rights should be given to some animals, depending on circumstances. I believe the criteria for this decision are more arbitrary than one might think, but a phylogenetic (anthrocentric) model is arguably useful for some, but not all decisions.  Individuals involved in the discussion often inappropriately characterize the positions of others at the expense of reaching some kind of agreement, and this intractability exists across the spectrum of opinion.  Needed improvements in the treatment of animals are likely to occur slowly because of institutional resistance, which is understandable, unfortunate, and fixable.</p>
<p><H3>Everyone wants to be nice to the animals</H3></p>
<p>A contemporary North American hunter may kill an animal for sport, but every hunter I know prefers a &#8220;clean kill,&#8221; meaning, the animal dies instantly.  If one disdains hunting, this may be hard to reconcile.  Like &#8220;Rules of Warfare&#8221; this sounds absurd, or Orwellian. But even if one disdains hunting one has to admit that normal sports hunting does not involve trying to make the animal feel a lot of pain, but rather, the opposite.  This fact is not meaningless or irrelevant. Even those who kill for sport usually prefer to do it in a fashion that they would label as &#8220;humane&#8221; and the polarity of what is &#8220;inhumane&#8221; vs. &#8220;humane&#8221; is commonly understood to be the same by most people, even if we don&#8217;t always agree on the details of how to get there. Less pain is better than more pain, if death is going to happen it should be quicker.</p>
<p>A contemporary Western non-vegetarian, if given the choice, would prefer that animals are raised in a more humane environment and brought to slaughter in more humane ways.  If you ask people about this, you&#8217;ll find many who claim they don&#8217;t care.  But if you show these people the alternatives and ask if they would vote for the more humane over the less humane version very few would choose the less humane one.</p>
<p>People keep their pets in different ways.  In North America, some dogs are working dogs and are never allowed in the house, while the same breed will be &#8220;part of the family&#8221; in a different household.  Nonetheless, there are broad standards that most people agree on and there are certain things that society generally accepts as wrong, even if they are regularly supported and participated in (like the &#8220;puppy mills&#8221; from which many household pets come).</p>
<p>It is fair to say that except for those who are pathological or especially mean spirited, it is easy to construct binary choices regarding treatment of animals and find almost everyone having about the same preference for one of the two choices, where the preferred choice is the more humane one. Just as importantly, it seems that we use the term &#8220;humane&#8221; in a similar way across a range of contexts.</p>
<p>There are world wide cultural differences in how humans relate to non-human animals.  Having lived with actual hunter gatherers (people who do not kill for sport, but rather, for food) I strongly suspect that few westerners would accurately predict what attitudes towards pets and towards game animals might be in other cultures.  Our popular culture is full of misconceptions about how other cultures relate to non-human animals. For the present purposes, it is probably wise to stick to mainly &#8220;Western&#8221; ideas which are certainly variable enough.</p>
<p><H3>There is no solution that will satisfy all parties</H3></p>
<p>Even though the relative &#8220;humanity&#8221; of two or more ways to treat non-human animals will rarely be disputed, there are large differences among individuals as to what might be considered appropriate.  There is almost certainly no position or policy that would satisfy every stakeholder in a particular discussion.  Meat eaters don&#8217;t want to be told to not eat meat.  True Vegans are generally uncomfortable about the existence of a meat food industry. There are those opposed to all use of animals in research, and there are those who assert that there is at present no unnecessary cruelty to animals or other inappropriate activity associated with the use of animals in research, as the process is already appropriately regulated.</p>
<p>The fact that there is no universally agreed on solution to the question of how to treat non-human animals means that every honest and earnest participant in the discussion must accept that they simply will not get everything they want in any process of negotiating changes to the status quo.  Those who show up at the proverbial table with the idea that only their position should be accommodated should probably take their marbles and go home, because they are not going to get what they want and they are going to annoy everyone else.  It is, of course, reasonable to show up at the table with the idea that things can change in the direction you prefer them, somehow.</p>
<p><H3>Human rights are arbitrarily granted or assumed</H3></p>
<p>I know of no justifiable argument for human rights of any kind arising from any special source or power. The only seemingly logical framework for human rights is basic equality combined with a kind of Golden Rule.  I want you to not harm me or mine, so I&#8217;ll agree to the same for you (that&#8217;s the Golden Rule part) and since we are all equal this mutualism applies broadly to all humans.</p>
<p>Any other arrangement denigrates or damages a subset of humans, and as a species, or as a set of societies, we seem to be trending away from that approach, although there are still plenty of people who would (and do) gain from differential treatment.  In fact, the average Caucasioheteronormative Western All Suffering Middle Class Taxpayer gains a great deal from the unfair treatment of certain groups of humans on a day to day basis.  People are exploited so we can have cheap shoes, people are raped and murdered so we can have cell phones, and people are bombed and their lands invaded so we can have cheap fuel.  There are ethnic, &#8220;racial,&#8221; national, religious, and other group-identity related factors that determine which people get exploited to benefit the others.</p>
<p>But despite the fact that exploitation happens, Western society tends to regard this exploitation as bad, and to some extent moves to limit or reduce it, and in the meantime, at least hide it and deny it so we don&#8217;t feel badly about it.  Denying this sort of intrahuman exploitation is of course hypocritical and inadequate, but the fact that we live in denial of, rather than celebration of, Indonesians sweat shops, Congolese coltan killing fields, and the invasion of arbitrary West Asian countries tells us that we know at some level that it is wrong.</p>
<p>So in the end, equality plus some form of the &#8220;Golden Rule&#8221; results in the belief that human life is valuable and equally valuable across the species, and human suffering is bad and equally bad across the species.  General human equality is, then, the principle by which we operate, or at least, aspire or pretend to operate, regardless of the basis for this particular more.</p>
<p>But why do humans have special rights over other animals? Why do humans have a rule that says we can kill any wild animal we want (with appropriate permits) but if any wild animal kills a human, it loses its right to live?</p>
<p>In the absence of evidence to the contrary, it is hard to see how this right comes from anything other than an arbitrary determination.  We have decided that this is so, it is species-level self interest (but really, applies mainly to various subsets of humanity more than to others) and only works because we have the capacity to make it work.</p>
<p>I would like to mention a few alternative scenarios, some made up and some real, in which this principle of Human Exceptionalism can be viewed to put it in some perspective.</p>
<p>Suppose aliens show up. These aliens have independently decided that THEY have the right to live, and that we humans would make excellent snacks.  You all know the story. No one ever questioned the (fictional) slaughter of invading aliens as &#8230; inhumane or inappropriate.</p>
<p>What about the death penalty and other sanctioned forms of homicide? We know that it is wrong to kill humans, but the state is granted the power to do so. Soldiers in war, police acting in self defense, heavily armed home invadees, and judges can kill people if they follow a few simple rules.  The fact that people object to the use of the word &#8220;homicide&#8221; to describe these deaths is not insignificant. The fact that statistically those who are killed are typically from different group-identity categories than those who sanction or carry out the killing is not insignificant.</p>
<p>During the 1980s elephants and rhinos were threatened with local extinction in Kenya.  The Rhinos actually did go locally extinct. The Kenya National Parks Service armed and trained their rangers and instituted a &#8220;shoot on sight&#8221; policy.  Non-rangers and non-tourists in certain parks were bound to be armed poachers.  Shooting them to death on sight reduced their numbers and their resolve, helped save the elephants, and allowed the reintroduction of rhinos in various parks. Human rights were explicitly and abruptly put aside in favor of animal rights. Kenya (in particular, Richard Leakey, head of Kenya Parks at the time) took a lot of heat for the shoot on sight policy.  But once someone takes the heat for a new policy, it isn&#8217;t so hard for that policy to be implemented elsewhere. Today, poachers in Tanzania and South Africa and elsewhere may not exactly be shot on sight, but &#8230;.  in the end mainly Western White tourists, conservationists, and big game hunters have their interest protected and dark skinned formerly colonized and systematically disadvantaged natives are sacrificed.  The relationship between exploitation of humans and exploitation of animals may or may not be related in all cases.  In this case it is explicit, overt, and impossible to turn away from.</p>
<p>We know from the palaeoanthropological and archaeological records and other evidence that there was at one time a much larger number of &#8220;hominid&#8221; species (close relatives of <em>Homo sapiens</em>).  We can not say for sure where they went. They did not evolve into something else.  They definitely died off. We can not say for sure that Homo sapiens did them in, but it is quite reasonable to suggest that they may have done so in at least a few cases.</p>
<p>Hominoids (the broader category that includes all apes) were also more common at one time.  Orangs formerly occupied mainland southeast Asia.  They probably went extinct there as late as the 1950s or 1960s, certainly because of humans. (I interviewed one person who claims to have killed  an orangutan in southern Viet Nam in about 1964.)  Indonesian Orangs are next.  Bornean orangs are becoming increasingly rare.  It is likely that several species of gibbons or siamangs went extinct during the 19th and 20th centuries.  Gorillas formerly occupied West Africa, but no longer.  A subspecies of eastern lowland gorilla probably went extinct over the last couple of years, and the rest of the gorillas are all in trouble. The Taï chimps were nearly poached out in the 1980s.  A small change in politics or economics in Tanzania could wipe out the Mahale or Gombe chimps. The bonobos of the Congo&#8217;s left bank are frequently threatened.  And so on and so forth.  All of this is due to human activity.</p>
<p>Somebody is acting like the Aliens who view the humans as snacks.  And it isn&#8217;t the aliens that are doing that, and the snacks are our fellow hominoids.</p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/03/animal_rights_and_human_needs_1.php">&#8230;. To be continued &#8230;.</a></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I heard the news that day &#8230; Oh boy. I had received an email from a man whom I knew only as the father of a (now former) student. We had met once, a few years ago when his son graduated, and he gave me a very nice bottle of wine, which I shared &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/03/27/from-graduate-school-to-prison/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">From Graduate School to Prison: What is the rational argument for ELF or ALF?</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/scienceblogs.com/gregladen/wp-content/blogs.dir/472/files/2012/04/i-c6846c4a885cf8ee56c99ef6487a05a3-john_flintnapping.jpg?w=604" alt="i-c6846c4a885cf8ee56c99ef6487a05a3-john_flintnapping.jpg" data-recalc-dims="1" />When I heard the news that day &#8230; Oh boy.  I had received an email from a man whom I knew only as the father of a (now former) student.  We had met once, a few years ago when his son graduated, and he gave me a very nice bottle of wine, which I shared with a select group of wine experts only last Christmas.  The wine had aged well and was outstanding.</p>
<p>He gave me the wine as a gift for having &#8220;done so much for his son&#8221; while he, the son, was an undergraduate student.  It was true.  I had done a lot for the young man.  I had many long conversations with him about lofty sciency concepts, and he took a couple of my classes, but mainly I had helped him out by setting him up with fieldwork opportunities in South Africa.  This young man, whom I&#8217;ll call John, was one of a small number of undergraduates that I&#8217;ve either taken with me to the field or arranged to go to the field to work with my colleagues there.  I am very very careful about which students I might bring or send to the field.  I am so careful that sometimes I make the mistake of accidentally chasing away a student that I shouldn&#8217;t have chased away.<sup>1</sup>  John was carefully selected by me for this opportunity, as well as by a colleague of mine who also sent John off to the field (to a different continent).<br />
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<p>So yes, I had done much for John but I had done nothing that was not my job and nothing that I did not want to do or that did not give me due returns in many ways.  I was more than happy to help John out in these ways, and his father did not have to give me a bottle of wine.  But considering that I usually get by way of appreciation a nice card with a note extolling my virtues, it was kind of nice to get something I could drink.<sup>2 </sup></p>
<p>I loved &#8220;John.&#8221;  He was smart, funny, respectful of all humans, a model student, a model nascent citizen of academia, a model person.  In the end, not only did I support him in his fieldwork, but I also, again with my colleague, got a bidding war going among three of the top graduate institutions for him.  He ended up at a major East Coast University doing exactly what he should be doing, and doing it very well, with a kick-ass fellowship, a kick-ass adviser, and excellent research prospects.  John was a very satisfying success story.  And all of his successes were really the product of his own ability and hard work. We were all proud of John, and I often thought well of him during the years since his departure to the East.</p>
<p>Then I heard the news.</p>
<p>The phone message from John&#8217;s father simply implied that something really bad had happened.  So I tried to contact him but was only able to leave a message.  Eventually, I got an email back that gave me nothing more than a cypher.  According to the cypher, if I followed a certain procedure, all would become clear, and once that happened, would I please write a letter of support.</p>
<p>I was to enter John&#8217;s full name and the name of a particular state into Google Search, and the bad news that I needed to learn would be obvious to me.</p>
<p>Clearly, I was communicating with someone who was beside himself with some strong emotion &#8230; grief, anger, something &#8230; to the extent that he (an educator himself) was unable to articulate the circumstances in a normal sentence.  He could not form the words to say what had to be said of his son.</p>
<p>So I entered John&#8217;s name and the name of the specified state into a Google search, and instantly found out that my former student had been arrested and charged, and copped a plea, for a significant act of domestic terrorism.  He was looking at a possible ten or fifteen year sentence if he was lucky.  The Internet was abuzz.  His name had been changed by some organizations to &#8220;John the snitch&#8221; because he was turning state&#8217;s evidence.  The list of activities he had apparently been engaged in was impressive &#8230;. quite a bit of destruction of property and attempted destruction of property, involving firebombs and other means, all as part of his membership in the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) and the affiliated Animal Liberation Front (ALF).   Indeed one of the properties he managed to destroy is only a few hundred meters from where I sit typing these words, while other sites are in two different states some distance away.</p>
<p>Oh boy.</p>
<p>I contacted John&#8217;s dad immediately and indicated that I certainly would provide a letter of support.  And I thought about why John&#8217;s dad was being circumspect and indirect, and it was pretty obvious to me.  Dad is a high school administrator. Some sort of principal.  He is one of the members of society that needs to be both unforgiving and all forgiving of the foibles of youth.  The fundamental goodness (or lack thereof) we possess (or not) as a society emerge among, or are educated into, or developed by (or not, not, not) the youngsters in his daily care.  And here is one of them, a bit older, who happens to be his son, just out of high school (at the time of the crimes) blowing up shit.</p>
<p>There was not a moment then, nor since, when my feelings for John and my estimation of him as a person changed.  This perplexed some people with whom I spoke after finding out this news.  Some insisted that once someone commits a crime like this &#8230; blowing up or burning down research facilities, or at least, trying to (the ultimate outcome of most of John&#8217;s activities were not really all that impressive owing to a certain amount of incompetence and &#8216;bad&#8217; luck) was seen by some as a reason to write him off, toss him in prison, and throw away the key.  But guess what. You don&#8217;t do that with someone you care for, even if you might get really mad at them for being such as stupid idiot.</p>
<p>(In fact, you don&#8217;t do that in a civilized society.  Those who feel especially victimized by the very thought of their potential victimization may be prone to histrionics, but histrionics does not convert into justice.  We have a justice system for that.)</p>
<p>I spent the next few days, again together with my colleague who was also being asked to write a letter of support, researching the background on this news we had just learned.  These letters would be incorporated into the sentencing process.  So, this was just like any other letter of recommendation I&#8217;ve written, but where in most instances the subject of the letter would perhaps get into grad school, or get some kind of funding, this person was going to get less prison time.  Maybe.</p>
<p>I already knew what my letter of support would include:  A description of our relationship and my estimation of John as a person.  That is what I knew, and that is what I could offer the court.  But I did not know what weight that would have in this court room.  I needed to know certain things.  In particular, I needed to know what the timing was.  If John had carried out all of these activities before starting undergraduate school and becoming my student, that was one thing.  My estimate of him as a person who could never do what he in fact admitted to doing would have meaning.  We would be seeing a person who had undergone a major transition, who had made a huge mistake and turned around.  We would be seeing a person who perhaps should not be tossed in prison for a very long time.</p>
<p>If, on the other hand, John was busily blowing up University property in three states while at the same time going back and forth to field projects organized by my colleague and me, that would be different. If this was the case, not only would my estimation of him as a person who would never do such a thing be taken as an absurdity by any judge, but it might even be taken as an absurdity by me, and I might not even bother writing the letter.  My feelings about him would not change &#8230; for reasons that are to me obvious &#8230; but they would become irrelevant. There would be almost nothing for me to offer to a judge deciding on John&#8217;s fate.</p>
<p>So I did three things.  First, I pulled his records to determine exactly when he was in my classroom and when he was overseas. Then, I researched the court documents and found out when the things John was charged with had happened.  This showed me that John&#8217;s last activities overlapped with his taking his first class from me by a few weeks.  Interesting.  I thought back to that class, and I remembered something quite relevant.  That was not long after the ALF had hit our campus. Subsequent to that strike, in which several animals were &#8220;liberated&#8221; (but, later, rescued by Minneapolis police) and several graduate students&#8217; research projects were also &#8220;liberated&#8221; (= destroyed), I started to incorporate a discussion about this sort of shenanigans in my lectures, at least for a couple of years.  (Just to be clear:  John was not involved in those earlier ALF activities.)</p>
<p>I could so easily imagine these young, smart, creative, and thoughtful kids &#8230; students that I sometimes got to know and truly appreciate, becoming politically motivated and active.  I could encourage them to take up important issues, or at least, not stomp on their idealism.  But it was also quite easy to imagine some of these students being utter morons.  It was a fine line between wanting to do the right thing and ending up in a cycle of justification and nefarious planning, aggrandizing the cause and nefarious action, seeing oneself as the judge and the prosecutor and carrying out sentence on society and society&#8217;s infrastructure.</p>
<p>So I lectured, briefly but annually, in my Very Large Course about the validity of political action, about the validity of concern for animal &#8216;welfare,&#8217; and about the utter stupidity and moral bankruptcy of ALF and similar misguided causes.  I wonder now if John was planning his next hit in those days, but heard me speak about these issues in lecture, and suddenly saw the light:  There is no valid rational argument supporting what ALF had been doing (and is still very much doing, only perhaps with accelerated pace and increased severity in recent years).  There are many routes to change, and this is not one of them.  There are many routes to change that involve pro-active political action, even civil disobedience, that are valid and that are supportable with a rational argument.  But these tricksters are morons.  Stay away.</p>
<p>Apparently, John did stay away.  The court documents indicate no such activity after that date.  As I write this, I do not really know, of course, if he ever heard me say these things or if he did, if it mattered.</p>
<p>The third thing I did was to consult <a href="http://quichemoraine.com/2009/04/dinner-at-azia/">close, trusted, friends</a> who might have had suspicions, even if only in hindsight, of John&#8217;s activities following those documented.  I also learned other details that were known but not in the public domain.  In this consultation and research I verified my own estimation, and without going into any detail at this time, I was able to reconstruct the salient events of John&#8217;s entry into, and more importantly exit from, this underworld life<sup>3</sup>.  And, verily, ever since that one weekend during his first semester in my classroom, there was nothing.  John was out of business as a domestic terrorist.  Or stupid idealist with gasoline.  Or whatever.</p>
<p>There is nothing I&#8217;ve specified here that is not public record.  Indeed, you can probably figure out who &#8220;John&#8221; is in fewer than ten minutes on Google.  This is an interesting story (so far) and social voyeurs will especially enjoy looking in on this tragedy.  John was sentenced yesterday (as I write this &#8230; you&#8217;ll be reading this some time later) and will spend several years in prison.  He will be allowed to continue his graduate studies in prison.  So, in a sense, &#8230; (Insert your favorite joke about graduate school here.  I actually can&#8217;t bring myself to do it.)</p>
<p>But why write about this?</p>
<p>Because I have a problem with people that I love doing utterly stupid things.</p>
<p>And I assume that among the throngs of young men and women who are out there, engaged in political action, dedicated to important causes, ready to devote themselves to change, there are some that I would love if I knew them (and perhaps you would as well), and some of these individuals are going to do the stupid things.</p>
<p>Civil disobedience, often with violence, is fine.  Escaped slaves and the operatives of the Underground Railway were disobedient.  People who escaped from, or abetted escape from, the Nazi camps were disobedient, and the French Underground was violent.  Our &#8220;Founding Fathers&#8221; were disobedient to The Crown big time, with guns and shooting and blowing shit up.  They even shot the officers, which was the equivalent in those days of the modern practice of putting your &#8220;baby formula factory&#8221; inside the &#8220;day care center.&#8221;</p>
<p>And we tend to judge such things in hindsight.  There were many different little rebellions going on in 18th and early 19th century North America, and only a handful of them happen to be connected,  post hoc, to the Glorious American Revolution.  The rest are hooligans and shenanigans and terrorists.  In some cases, this really is a matter of bad timing more than bad behavior.  Well, it was all bad behavior. The link between the bad behavior and the just and right argument is a matter of timing.  If the Green Mountain Boys were active after rather than before the Revolution, Ethan Allen may have been hung rather than deified.  Post hoc, we can say that the Founding Fathers and the French Resistance were cool, but other similar entities of history not so much.</p>
<p>But the validity and legitimacy of any violent movement is not just a matter of timing.  The Nazi&#8217;s started out as domestic terrorists just as the American Rebels did.  So did the Bolsheviks.  No, we tend as well to judge these movements, post hoc, on other merits.  Some can be seen as righteous and some as wrong for quasi independent reasons that are not just accidents of history.</p>
<p>But there is a third axis along which we can judge movements that engage in violence to enact change:  The link to and articulation of the rational argument.  ALF does not have one.  ELF does not have one.   Their arguments are based on misconceptions, misinformation, crappy logic, bad planning, and political ineptitude.  Their arguments are shit.  ALF and ELF have probably done more harm than good, in terms of the politics and public opinion, in the areas of animal care and environmental concern.  The environmental movement and the animal &#8216;rights&#8217; movement have progressed to the extent that they have despite, not because of, ELF/ALF.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t do that.  That is my message. That is why I&#8217;m writing about John.</p>
<p>Just don&#8217;t fucking do that, OK?</p>
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<p><sup>1</sup>. I choose to avoid having a lot of regrets, but that would be one of them.  You know of whom I speak if you are the one. (Of whom I speak.)</p>
<p><sup>2</sup>. Students of the future (or their parents) who wish to thank me can consider wine an appropriate modality of appreciation.  Red.</p>
<p><sup>3</sup>. I don&#8217;t avoid mention of these details because they are unknown to the authorities. They are known to the authorities.  Rather, I don&#8217;t mention them because they are not part of the public record. In other words, I don&#8217;t know anything you don&#8217;t know, if you are the FBI and you are reading this blog post.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[The incident just reported an hour or so ago is unusual, but not unexpected or unheard of. A 200-pound chimpanzee kept as a pet and once used in commercials was shot and killed by police Monday after it mauled a woman visiting its owner and later cornered an officer in his cruiser, authorities said. Stamford &#8230; <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2009/02/17/chimps-in-captivity-are-a-prob/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Chimps in captivity are a problem.</span> <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The incident just reported an hour or so ago is unusual, but not unexpected or unheard of.</p>
<blockquote><p>A 200-pound chimpanzee kept as a pet and once used in commercials was shot and killed by police Monday after it mauled a woman visiting its owner and later cornered an officer in his cruiser, authorities said.</p>
<p>Stamford police Lt. Richard Conklin said the injured woman was hospitalized late Monday in &#8220;very serious&#8221; condition at Stamford Hospital; her identity was not immediately released. Conklin said she suffered &#8220;a tremendous loss of blood&#8221; from serious facial injuries.</p></blockquote>
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