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		By: Mike Haubrich		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/11/30/mind-blown/#comment-985433</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2022 11:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;You would think that two black men running for the Senate in any state would be celebrated as an example of how far we have come on race in the USA. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It would be nice if we could, but it&#039;s obvious that the Walker candidacy was a cynical ploy to just put up any black person in hopes of peeling off black voters just because of his race.  He was clearly not qualified, and his 100% refusal to accept abortion for any reason even though he had benefited personally for him showed that pro-life voters don&#039;t really care about abortion as much as they think women are just baby holders for a few months.

I hope this ends his career.  He can go join the same speaker circuit that Sister Sara Palin is on and run around the country fleecing the rubes for $100 a ticket while he talks about werewolves, vampires, and his days on the police force.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You would think that two black men running for the Senate in any state would be celebrated as an example of how far we have come on race in the USA. </p></blockquote>
<p>It would be nice if we could, but it&#8217;s obvious that the Walker candidacy was a cynical ploy to just put up any black person in hopes of peeling off black voters just because of his race.  He was clearly not qualified, and his 100% refusal to accept abortion for any reason even though he had benefited personally for him showed that pro-life voters don&#8217;t really care about abortion as much as they think women are just baby holders for a few months.</p>
<p>I hope this ends his career.  He can go join the same speaker circuit that Sister Sara Palin is on and run around the country fleecing the rubes for $100 a ticket while he talks about werewolves, vampires, and his days on the police force.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/11/30/mind-blown/#comment-985417</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2022 02:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/11/30/mind-blown/#comment-985406&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

Nobody should forget what was required of the people who voted in favor of the 1964 Civil Rights Act: they risked ending their political career by doing so, regardless of their party affiliation. 

However, blindly saying “more Republicans than Democrats[sic] voted for it” is committing two things:

A) Overlooking the fact that neither of today’s parties is what they were in 1964. Both have moved significantly to the right, with the republicans now essentially authoritarian
B) It ignores the interaction between party and region. If you break things down by “South” meaning the 11 states that were the traitors in the Civil war, and “North” the other states, the final voting numbers look like this.

House By region and party (yea-nay)
Southern Democrats: 8 to 83
Southern Republicans: 0-11
Northern Democrats: 145-8
Northern Republicans: 136-24

Senate by region and party (yea-nay)

Southern Democrats: 1-20
Southern Republicans: 0-1
Northern Democrats: 45-1
Northern Republicans: 27-5

Simpson’s Paradox anyone? 

It also overlooks the fact that the racists flooded to the Republican Party, not the Democratic Party (for the most part: there were, no doubt, some of the racist goons in the non-politician population who stayed with the Democratic Party b/c they realized that was the better place for working people: dirtbag Byrd was an odd case the Democratic group would have better kicked out than kept).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/11/30/mind-blown/#comment-985406">RickA</a>.</p>
<p>Nobody should forget what was required of the people who voted in favor of the 1964 Civil Rights Act: they risked ending their political career by doing so, regardless of their party affiliation. </p>
<p>However, blindly saying “more Republicans than Democrats[sic] voted for it” is committing two things:</p>
<p>A) Overlooking the fact that neither of today’s parties is what they were in 1964. Both have moved significantly to the right, with the republicans now essentially authoritarian<br />
B) It ignores the interaction between party and region. If you break things down by “South” meaning the 11 states that were the traitors in the Civil war, and “North” the other states, the final voting numbers look like this.</p>
<p>House By region and party (yea-nay)<br />
Southern Democrats: 8 to 83<br />
Southern Republicans: 0-11<br />
Northern Democrats: 145-8<br />
Northern Republicans: 136-24</p>
<p>Senate by region and party (yea-nay)</p>
<p>Southern Democrats: 1-20<br />
Southern Republicans: 0-1<br />
Northern Democrats: 45-1<br />
Northern Republicans: 27-5</p>
<p>Simpson’s Paradox anyone? </p>
<p>It also overlooks the fact that the racists flooded to the Republican Party, not the Democratic Party (for the most part: there were, no doubt, some of the racist goons in the non-politician population who stayed with the Democratic Party b/c they realized that was the better place for working people: dirtbag Byrd was an odd case the Democratic group would have better kicked out than kept).</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/11/30/mind-blown/#comment-985406</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2022 18:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The republicans ended slavery.  A larger percentage of republicans voted for the 1964 civil rights bill than did the democrats (78% versus 60% - based on vote in the house).  See https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/12/17/fact-check-more-republicans-voted-for-the-civil-rights-act-as-a-percentage-than-democrats-did/

Whoever wins this race in Georgia - it does not support or demonstrate white supremacy (in my opinion of course).  You would think that two black men running for the Senate in any state would be celebrated as an example of how far we have come on race in the USA.  Things are definitely better today than they were during Jim Crow and certainly better now than before the civil war.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The republicans ended slavery.  A larger percentage of republicans voted for the 1964 civil rights bill than did the democrats (78% versus 60% &#8211; based on vote in the house).  See <a href="https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/12/17/fact-check-more-republicans-voted-for-the-civil-rights-act-as-a-percentage-than-democrats-did/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/12/17/fact-check-more-republicans-voted-for-the-civil-rights-act-as-a-percentage-than-democrats-did/</a></p>
<p>Whoever wins this race in Georgia &#8211; it does not support or demonstrate white supremacy (in my opinion of course).  You would think that two black men running for the Senate in any state would be celebrated as an example of how far we have come on race in the USA.  Things are definitely better today than they were during Jim Crow and certainly better now than before the civil war.</p>
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		By: Lionel A		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/11/30/mind-blown/#comment-985404</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2022 15:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;As you say, those things had been in the Republican Party for a long time&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Longer than many today realise. Goes right back to before the start of the Naval War of 1812 with the likes of Jefferson,  Monroe and Madison employing filibustering (in the sense of making unauthorised war) techniques to acquire new territory.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As you say, those things had been in the Republican Party for a long time</p></blockquote>
<p>Longer than many today realise. Goes right back to before the start of the Naval War of 1812 with the likes of Jefferson,  Monroe and Madison employing filibustering (in the sense of making unauthorised war) techniques to acquire new territory.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/11/30/mind-blown/#comment-985342</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2022 13:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/11/30/mind-blown/#comment-985285&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

@ppnl:

Yes, I see I didn’t make my point well. Let me try this: Reagan was the first real driver to show the right that repeating lies often enough (all types: racist, misogynist, anti-gay, political) while embracing the worst of society could be a very effective tool. As you say, those things had been in the Republican Party for a long time, but they tried to hide them. He showed having them in the open didn’t result in any penalty and actually attracted support]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/11/30/mind-blown/#comment-985285">dean</a>.</p>
<p>@ppnl:</p>
<p>Yes, I see I didn’t make my point well. Let me try this: Reagan was the first real driver to show the right that repeating lies often enough (all types: racist, misogynist, anti-gay, political) while embracing the worst of society could be a very effective tool. As you say, those things had been in the Republican Party for a long time, but they tried to hide them. He showed having them in the open didn’t result in any penalty and actually attracted support</p>
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		By: ppnl		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/11/30/mind-blown/#comment-985332</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2022 07:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/11/30/mind-blown/#comment-985285&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

Regan didn&#039;t start the path. He just put the finishing touches on it.

The south had a longstanding bitterness toward the republican party due to the civil war. With the civil rights movement in the 60s the republicans sought to use racial divisions to change the power balance in the south.

It is ironic that the party that was born to fight slavery became possessed by the undead spirit of the old confederacy. But that began long before Regan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/11/30/mind-blown/#comment-985285">dean</a>.</p>
<p>Regan didn&#8217;t start the path. He just put the finishing touches on it.</p>
<p>The south had a longstanding bitterness toward the republican party due to the civil war. With the civil rights movement in the 60s the republicans sought to use racial divisions to change the power balance in the south.</p>
<p>It is ironic that the party that was born to fight slavery became possessed by the undead spirit of the old confederacy. But that began long before Regan.</p>
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		By: James G Crider		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/11/30/mind-blown/#comment-985289</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2022 00:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s all ironic, isn&#039;t it? First the GOP changed (briefly) from the party of big business and no-slavery-expansion into the party of civil rights. Then it became the party of big business and nativism (which I guess it had been all along since lots of former Know Nothings joined the GOP at its founding). Then when the Dems switched from anti-central-government to pro and then from pro-racism to anit, GOP picked up all of the &quot;Southron&quot; Lost-Causers, and they&#039;ve just grown more MAGA ever since. Lincoln would be soooo disappointed, and Wendell Phillips, William Lloyd Garrison and Frederick Douglass would say, &quot;I knew we shouldn&#039;t get into bed with the party of compensated emancipation and &quot;back to Africa!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all ironic, isn&#8217;t it? First the GOP changed (briefly) from the party of big business and no-slavery-expansion into the party of civil rights. Then it became the party of big business and nativism (which I guess it had been all along since lots of former Know Nothings joined the GOP at its founding). Then when the Dems switched from anti-central-government to pro and then from pro-racism to anit, GOP picked up all of the &#8220;Southron&#8221; Lost-Causers, and they&#8217;ve just grown more MAGA ever since. Lincoln would be soooo disappointed, and Wendell Phillips, William Lloyd Garrison and Frederick Douglass would say, &#8220;I knew we shouldn&#8217;t get into bed with the party of compensated emancipation and &#8220;back to Africa!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2022 22:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2022 22:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2022 22:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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