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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2022 01:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/04/07/correlation-and-causation-single-mothers-and-violent-crime/#comment-971750&quot;&gt;ROBERT B ESTRADA&lt;/a&gt;.

Knee is all better!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/04/07/correlation-and-causation-single-mothers-and-violent-crime/#comment-971750">ROBERT B ESTRADA</a>.</p>
<p>Knee is all better!</p>
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		By: ROBERT B ESTRADA		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ROBERT B ESTRADA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2022 00:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This.
http://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
BTW Greg, how&#039;s the knee? Went up on the rack and had one replaced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This.<br />
<a href="http://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations</a><br />
BTW Greg, how&#8217;s the knee? Went up on the rack and had one replaced.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2022 18:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/04/07/correlation-and-causation-single-mothers-and-violent-crime/#comment-971369&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

Gotta say rickA, with your lack of understanding your binging about single mothers being linked to crime is no different than your denial of climate change, and your linking to one of the low-life &quot;father&#039;s rights&quot; clowns shows your dedication to scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of web sites. You are consistent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/04/07/correlation-and-causation-single-mothers-and-violent-crime/#comment-971369">RickA</a>.</p>
<p>Gotta say rickA, with your lack of understanding your binging about single mothers being linked to crime is no different than your denial of climate change, and your linking to one of the low-life &#8220;father&#8217;s rights&#8221; clowns shows your dedication to scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of web sites. You are consistent.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2022 16:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since most crime is committed by males (73% per wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime), we need to think about single mothers with male children.  

Would having a father around full time make a difference to potential crime tendency&#039;s of a male child?  The statistics appear to show that it does make a difference (https://fixfamilycourts.com/single-mother-home-statistics/).

Being a single mother is very very hard and not ideal for the children (on average).  Having a full-time father and mother is better than just having a single mother (on average).

What is really sad is how the war on poverty has increased the number of single mother households, and how the war on drugs has increased the number of fathers in jail.  It is all very very sad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since most crime is committed by males (73% per wikipedia &#8211; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime</a>), we need to think about single mothers with male children.  </p>
<p>Would having a father around full time make a difference to potential crime tendency&#8217;s of a male child?  The statistics appear to show that it does make a difference (<a href="https://fixfamilycourts.com/single-mother-home-statistics/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://fixfamilycourts.com/single-mother-home-statistics/</a>).</p>
<p>Being a single mother is very very hard and not ideal for the children (on average).  Having a full-time father and mother is better than just having a single mother (on average).</p>
<p>What is really sad is how the war on poverty has increased the number of single mother households, and how the war on drugs has increased the number of fathers in jail.  It is all very very sad.</p>
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		By: Erik Danudjaja		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/04/07/correlation-and-causation-single-mothers-and-violent-crime/#comment-496354</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik Danudjaja]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2017 22:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No mention of abortion? This was well cited in Freakonomoics. While phenomenon like divorce continue to cause female-headed households with no man present, Roe V. Wage has caused a massive amount of young, poor women in inner cities to abort their children. This  event  would likely cause the divergence of the data. As abortion became legal in the mid 60s, there would be a delayed effect, starting in the mid 80s where young men who commit crime now would never exist.

Thoughts?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No mention of abortion? This was well cited in Freakonomoics. While phenomenon like divorce continue to cause female-headed households with no man present, Roe V. Wage has caused a massive amount of young, poor women in inner cities to abort their children. This  event  would likely cause the divergence of the data. As abortion became legal in the mid 60s, there would be a delayed effect, starting in the mid 80s where young men who commit crime now would never exist.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 17:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/04/07/correlation-and-causation-single-mothers-and-violent-crime/#comment-496352&quot;&gt;K&lt;/a&gt;.

K: Because they haven&#039;t. Read the entire post, not just the first few words and the first graphic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/04/07/correlation-and-causation-single-mothers-and-violent-crime/#comment-496352">K</a>.</p>
<p>K: Because they haven&#8217;t. Read the entire post, not just the first few words and the first graphic.</p>
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		By: K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 00:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why is it not mentioned that since 1960 both violent crime and single motherhood have almost exactly doubled? Just because there was a spike in crime from 70-90, doesn&#039;t change the fact that there is still a strong correlation over a 40 year period. I would say it&#039;s pretty self-evident that two parents are going to be able to provide a more emotionally and economically stable environment for children, resulting in less crime. Crime can spike for other reasons, believe it or not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it not mentioned that since 1960 both violent crime and single motherhood have almost exactly doubled? Just because there was a spike in crime from 70-90, doesn&#8217;t change the fact that there is still a strong correlation over a 40 year period. I would say it&#8217;s pretty self-evident that two parents are going to be able to provide a more emotionally and economically stable environment for children, resulting in less crime. Crime can spike for other reasons, believe it or not.</p>
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		By: Stan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/04/07/correlation-and-causation-single-mothers-and-violent-crime/#comment-496351</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2016 21:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone actually think that a single parent can raise a child better than two parents can, on average?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone actually think that a single parent can raise a child better than two parents can, on average?</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/04/07/correlation-and-causation-single-mothers-and-violent-crime/#comment-496350</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;This should give us a fairly accurate assessment of whether single family homes are a direct cause of crime.&lt;/i&gt;

In a word, &lt;b&gt;no&lt;/b&gt;.  It will give you some assessment of &lt;b&gt;correlation&lt;/b&gt;, but it will not establish causation.

(And its assessment will be cloudy and noisy, as there are many variables at play -- and the answers may not even be truthful.)

Personally, thanks for SHARING your OPINIONS about RAISING CHILDREN, but your GUESSES about the CAUSES of criminality are JUST FANCIFUL musings that MAY OR MAY NOT be accurate.

Hence, such musings are made from personal viewpoints and agendas, and opinions paraded as facts can be adjusted up &#038; down, depending on the motives of the opinion-giver.  I think the most accurate way to do this is to collect data and perform scientifically correct and peer-reviewed analyses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This should give us a fairly accurate assessment of whether single family homes are a direct cause of crime.</i></p>
<p>In a word, <b>no</b>.  It will give you some assessment of <b>correlation</b>, but it will not establish causation.</p>
<p>(And its assessment will be cloudy and noisy, as there are many variables at play &#8212; and the answers may not even be truthful.)</p>
<p>Personally, thanks for SHARING your OPINIONS about RAISING CHILDREN, but your GUESSES about the CAUSES of criminality are JUST FANCIFUL musings that MAY OR MAY NOT be accurate.</p>
<p>Hence, such musings are made from personal viewpoints and agendas, and opinions paraded as facts can be adjusted up &amp; down, depending on the motives of the opinion-giver.  I think the most accurate way to do this is to collect data and perform scientifically correct and peer-reviewed analyses.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/04/07/correlation-and-causation-single-mothers-and-violent-crime/#comment-496349</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What does research say about people who use randomly placed (and unnecessary) upper case letters?]]></description>
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