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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-973571</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Freedom of Expression: A core Democratic Value - Not True.

Democrats only like speech they can control and which agrees with them.

Hence the distaste for Musk buying twitter.  Democrats like the censorship of twitter and don&#039;t want it to end.  They like people like Trump being cancelled and banned from Twitter.

Democrats don&#039;t want to hear the truth, or even things they disagree with.

Truth like people cannot change biological sex.  Sorry - this is a fact.  It therefore follows that men cannot be women and visa versa.  The attempt to redefine men and women to encompass the opposite biological sex fails.  Sorry - words have meaning and cannot be changed just because of how people feel.

Truth like people cannot be racist just because of the color of their skin - it requires intent to be racist.  No - white people are not inherently racist because they are white.  Another fail.

Truth like climate models are terrible and cannot be relied on for predicting future temperatures.  All we have to do is wait and measure the temperature and this will become more and more apparent over time.

Truth like 100% renewable power is not currently technologically possible.  Nuclear power is the way to go (if you are worried about global warming).  Otherwise we are just going to put more carbon into the air.

It will be nice to be able to talk about these things on twitter again and not be subject to an army of cancel culture anti-free speech zealots.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom of Expression: A core Democratic Value &#8211; Not True.</p>
<p>Democrats only like speech they can control and which agrees with them.</p>
<p>Hence the distaste for Musk buying twitter.  Democrats like the censorship of twitter and don&#8217;t want it to end.  They like people like Trump being cancelled and banned from Twitter.</p>
<p>Democrats don&#8217;t want to hear the truth, or even things they disagree with.</p>
<p>Truth like people cannot change biological sex.  Sorry &#8211; this is a fact.  It therefore follows that men cannot be women and visa versa.  The attempt to redefine men and women to encompass the opposite biological sex fails.  Sorry &#8211; words have meaning and cannot be changed just because of how people feel.</p>
<p>Truth like people cannot be racist just because of the color of their skin &#8211; it requires intent to be racist.  No &#8211; white people are not inherently racist because they are white.  Another fail.</p>
<p>Truth like climate models are terrible and cannot be relied on for predicting future temperatures.  All we have to do is wait and measure the temperature and this will become more and more apparent over time.</p>
<p>Truth like 100% renewable power is not currently technologically possible.  Nuclear power is the way to go (if you are worried about global warming).  Otherwise we are just going to put more carbon into the air.</p>
<p>It will be nice to be able to talk about these things on twitter again and not be subject to an army of cancel culture anti-free speech zealots.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-973570</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-972514&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

It looks like the deal is going through!  It might be announced today.  This is good for free speech in America.  Even though what Twitter is doing doesn&#039;t violate the 1st amendment - it is bad for America.  New moderation policies, tweet edit and transparency on the algorithm can only help free speech.  It is a good day (again).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-972514">RickA</a>.</p>
<p>It looks like the deal is going through!  It might be announced today.  This is good for free speech in America.  Even though what Twitter is doing doesn&#8217;t violate the 1st amendment &#8211; it is bad for America.  New moderation policies, tweet edit and transparency on the algorithm can only help free speech.  It is a good day (again).</p>
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		By: Dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-972540</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A more direct point: none of the low life clowns rickA follows has been cancelled at all. They’re still getting their messages of hate and general lies out. 

That doesn’t mean musk doesn’t have a right to try to buy and then ruin twitter, but justifying it as a fight against the non-existent “cancel culture” is just a ploy to attack the weak minded and generally dull folks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A more direct point: none of the low life clowns rickA follows has been cancelled at all. They’re still getting their messages of hate and general lies out. </p>
<p>That doesn’t mean musk doesn’t have a right to try to buy and then ruin twitter, but justifying it as a fight against the non-existent “cancel culture” is just a ploy to attack the weak minded and generally dull folks.</p>
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		By: Dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-972538</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-972514&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

I*m sure many racists like you are thrilled that they could have a space to spew hate speech, insult women and minorities, and repeat your asinine conspiracies without fear of retribution since, in your minds, consequences should apply to you. 
The fact that you’re stupid enough to think that a private company enforcing its own rules is an infringement of your right to free speech tells rational people everything they need to know about you clowns.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-972514">RickA</a>.</p>
<p>I*m sure many racists like you are thrilled that they could have a space to spew hate speech, insult women and minorities, and repeat your asinine conspiracies without fear of retribution since, in your minds, consequences should apply to you.<br />
The fact that you’re stupid enough to think that a private company enforcing its own rules is an infringement of your right to free speech tells rational people everything they need to know about you clowns.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-972514</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2022 19:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Elon Musk to the rescue again!  What great news.  Elon offered to buy twitter and it is hard to see how the Board will be able to turn down his offer (which is above market value).

I watched Elon&#039;s TED talk interview of this morning and he wants to:

1.  Publish the algorithm to  github and allow people to critic it.  It is a black box now.
2.  Have an edit button for a short period of time after a tweet is published.
3.  Get rid of the report tweet item and the army of tweet bots.
4.  Get rid of permanent bans.  Short suspensions ok, permanent bans not ok.
5.  Allow free speech to the limit of the law.

I am eager for Elon Musk to be in charge and change twitter&#039;s bad moderation policy.  
Today is a great day.  The free market is wonderful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elon Musk to the rescue again!  What great news.  Elon offered to buy twitter and it is hard to see how the Board will be able to turn down his offer (which is above market value).</p>
<p>I watched Elon&#8217;s TED talk interview of this morning and he wants to:</p>
<p>1.  Publish the algorithm to  github and allow people to critic it.  It is a black box now.<br />
2.  Have an edit button for a short period of time after a tweet is published.<br />
3.  Get rid of the report tweet item and the army of tweet bots.<br />
4.  Get rid of permanent bans.  Short suspensions ok, permanent bans not ok.<br />
5.  Allow free speech to the limit of the law.</p>
<p>I am eager for Elon Musk to be in charge and change twitter&#8217;s bad moderation policy.<br />
Today is a great day.  The free market is wonderful.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-970922</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2022 17:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-970480&quot;&gt;Greg Laden&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t disagree with this opinion.  I just don&#039;t think the government should be mandating what type of cheese you should put on your sandwich.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-970480">Greg Laden</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with this opinion.  I just don&#8217;t think the government should be mandating what type of cheese you should put on your sandwich.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-970921</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2022 17:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-969770&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

Now that Elon Musk owns over 9% of twitter and is on the Board, hopefully twitter will change its moderation policy to be less evil (i.e. speech suppression).  I am looking forward to the changes which I expect to roll throughout all corporate owned social media platforms.

As always, the solution to speech which you (not referring to any &quot;you&quot; in particular) disagree with is more speech - not banning the public airing of opinions which you think are wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-969770">RickA</a>.</p>
<p>Now that Elon Musk owns over 9% of twitter and is on the Board, hopefully twitter will change its moderation policy to be less evil (i.e. speech suppression).  I am looking forward to the changes which I expect to roll throughout all corporate owned social media platforms.</p>
<p>As always, the solution to speech which you (not referring to any &#8220;you&#8221; in particular) disagree with is more speech &#8211; not banning the public airing of opinions which you think are wrong.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2022 23:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A mask is a slice of Swiss cheese.  So is social distancing.  So is an imperfect vaccine.  Going out less, washing hands more, getting take out or deliveries, all imperfect slices of swiss cheese. 

Get enough slices of Swiss cheese, the mustard stays on one side of the sandwich.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A mask is a slice of Swiss cheese.  So is social distancing.  So is an imperfect vaccine.  Going out less, washing hands more, getting take out or deliveries, all imperfect slices of swiss cheese. </p>
<p>Get enough slices of Swiss cheese, the mustard stays on one side of the sandwich.</p>
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		By: ppnl		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-970473</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ppnl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2022 21:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RickA

An epidemic is a game of numbers. If each infected person infects more than one other person then the epidemic grows. The higher that number the faster the epidemic grows. The point of masks was not to stop covid but to slow the epidemic so that it did not overwhelm medical resources. You can stop some epidemics but covid is very very infectious and we were never going to stop it. But we could slow it down. Not wearing masks because they are not perfect really really misses the point.

There was a shortage of n95 masks, not enough even for nurses. The FDA had to approve the reuse of masks, using masks out of their good date and using uncertified masks from China.  There were fewer n95s for the rest of us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RickA</p>
<p>An epidemic is a game of numbers. If each infected person infects more than one other person then the epidemic grows. The higher that number the faster the epidemic grows. The point of masks was not to stop covid but to slow the epidemic so that it did not overwhelm medical resources. You can stop some epidemics but covid is very very infectious and we were never going to stop it. But we could slow it down. Not wearing masks because they are not perfect really really misses the point.</p>
<p>There was a shortage of n95 masks, not enough even for nurses. The FDA had to approve the reuse of masks, using masks out of their good date and using uncertified masks from China.  There were fewer n95s for the rest of us.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2022 20:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-970441&quot;&gt;Michael Haubrich&lt;/a&gt;.

All free speech is intended to influence for good or for ill. In your house you can require people be careful about their language around your children. You may even see it as a moral duty. On your internet forum you can disenvowel me if you wish. Your property your choice. 

This is the libertarian perspective. Libertarians get real antsy when you try to tell them how they can use their property. They view such a thing as authoritarian.

At this point we are having a pointless discussion over the use of language. I reserve the word &quot;authoritarian&quot; to the use of force. I see little utility in the way you use it other than to complain about people saying mean things to you. Saying mean things is not only legal but is often deeply moral. 

Donald Trump is a narcissistic asshole and I would sleep on the street rather than pay to sleep in one of his hotels. He is psychologically incapable of holding any coherent political position at all. He has ripped the the heart out of any thinking conservatism and taken a bite out of it for the world to see. To any halfway intelligent libertarian he represents the worst of both the liberal and the conservative world. I literally know the shape of his dick because of the testimony of multiple porn stars that he payed to have sex with while his wife was too pregnant to service his needs. Yet the religious right see him as some kind of super christian. To use a religious metaphor he is the beast that the fallen church on earth rides. The harlot surely does intimately know the shape of his dick. He seemed to have some kind of man crush on Putin yet he is seen as some kind of super patriot. All his life he has been a small time grifter cheating hard working people out of their labor. His charities have been nothing but a cover to pay his legal bills. I invite the world to sleep on the street with me.

The above is mean. It contains a threat to withhold my business. It contains a public display of disapproval. It contains an invitation for people to join me on the street. This is the soul of free speech in America. It would be hard for me to hear this kind of speech about someone that I admire. It would  still be the soul of free speech. I would still defend the speech because I&#039;m not a butt hurt little...

Free speech can be mean. Sometimes it should be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2022/03/02/freedom-of-expression-a-core-democratic-value/#comment-970441">Michael Haubrich</a>.</p>
<p>All free speech is intended to influence for good or for ill. In your house you can require people be careful about their language around your children. You may even see it as a moral duty. On your internet forum you can disenvowel me if you wish. Your property your choice. </p>
<p>This is the libertarian perspective. Libertarians get real antsy when you try to tell them how they can use their property. They view such a thing as authoritarian.</p>
<p>At this point we are having a pointless discussion over the use of language. I reserve the word &#8220;authoritarian&#8221; to the use of force. I see little utility in the way you use it other than to complain about people saying mean things to you. Saying mean things is not only legal but is often deeply moral. </p>
<p>Donald Trump is a narcissistic asshole and I would sleep on the street rather than pay to sleep in one of his hotels. He is psychologically incapable of holding any coherent political position at all. He has ripped the the heart out of any thinking conservatism and taken a bite out of it for the world to see. To any halfway intelligent libertarian he represents the worst of both the liberal and the conservative world. I literally know the shape of his dick because of the testimony of multiple porn stars that he payed to have sex with while his wife was too pregnant to service his needs. Yet the religious right see him as some kind of super christian. To use a religious metaphor he is the beast that the fallen church on earth rides. The harlot surely does intimately know the shape of his dick. He seemed to have some kind of man crush on Putin yet he is seen as some kind of super patriot. All his life he has been a small time grifter cheating hard working people out of their labor. His charities have been nothing but a cover to pay his legal bills. I invite the world to sleep on the street with me.</p>
<p>The above is mean. It contains a threat to withhold my business. It contains a public display of disapproval. It contains an invitation for people to join me on the street. This is the soul of free speech in America. It would be hard for me to hear this kind of speech about someone that I admire. It would  still be the soul of free speech. I would still defend the speech because I&#8217;m not a butt hurt little&#8230;</p>
<p>Free speech can be mean. Sometimes it should be.</p>
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