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		By: MikeN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 04:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894855&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

Correction, it was another photographer that admonished Reuters for publishing a picture out of context.

https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/8/19/21375303/mailboxes-removed-usps-postal-service-collection-boxes-mail-in-voting]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894855">MikeN</a>.</p>
<p>Correction, it was another photographer that admonished Reuters for publishing a picture out of context.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/8/19/21375303/mailboxes-removed-usps-postal-service-collection-boxes-mail-in-voting" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/8/19/21375303/mailboxes-removed-usps-postal-service-collection-boxes-mail-in-voting</a></p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 02:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894855&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

Dean, there was a picture that was posted on Twitter, of post office boxes piled up, retweeted all over.  The photographer who took the picture admonished the media for doing this, as actual journalism would have revealed this was a refurbishing company.
Actual boxes being removed does happen and happened well before Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894855">MikeN</a>.</p>
<p>Dean, there was a picture that was posted on Twitter, of post office boxes piled up, retweeted all over.  The photographer who took the picture admonished the media for doing this, as actual journalism would have revealed this was a refurbishing company.<br />
Actual boxes being removed does happen and happened well before Trump.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894919</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 02:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894868&quot;&gt;Jeffh&lt;/a&gt;.

JeffH, does this mean you think it is an error?  It would not be minor, but it is not clear to me that it is an error.  I thought it was at one point, but I am reading conflicting reports.
I am trying to get people&#039;s opinions on the matter, hopefully something definitive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894868">Jeffh</a>.</p>
<p>JeffH, does this mean you think it is an error?  It would not be minor, but it is not clear to me that it is an error.  I thought it was at one point, but I am reading conflicting reports.<br />
I am trying to get people&#8217;s opinions on the matter, hopefully something definitive.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 12:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894868&quot;&gt;Jeffh&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;ll also note that he never references anything later than the early days, before more data came in. 


Of course, he never references trump&#039;s lack of activity, his lies about the virus, lies about &quot;closing china&quot;, having fema steal supplies states had purchased, or any of the other intentional actions trump implemented to hurt people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894868">Jeffh</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll also note that he never references anything later than the early days, before more data came in. </p>
<p>Of course, he never references trump&#8217;s lack of activity, his lies about the virus, lies about &#8220;closing china&#8221;, having fema steal supplies states had purchased, or any of the other intentional actions trump implemented to hurt people.</p>
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		By: Jeffh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 12:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MikeN, what is your obsession with trying to find minor flaws in everything Dr. Fauci may or may not have said regarding the coronavirus? You seem preoccupied with him, whereas you never, ever, criticize the malignant, lying, sexist, racist, anti-environmental President. Where are your criticisms of the bullshit blizzard that emanated from Trump over COVID-19? Nobody here is fooled by your phony enquiries. You support a right wing political agenda and you use every means of getting that through on this blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MikeN, what is your obsession with trying to find minor flaws in everything Dr. Fauci may or may not have said regarding the coronavirus? You seem preoccupied with him, whereas you never, ever, criticize the malignant, lying, sexist, racist, anti-environmental President. Where are your criticisms of the bullshit blizzard that emanated from Trump over COVID-19? Nobody here is fooled by your phony enquiries. You support a right wing political agenda and you use every means of getting that through on this blog.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 11:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894855&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

mikeN, how did you become such a fountain of bullshit and falsehoods? We had video of machinery being taken out of facilities here in West Michigan the same day the grifter trump put in charge of the the service testified that he had stopped the practice. There were emails published detailing and end to overtime across the board. 

your &#039;refurbishing&#039; bit is pure fantasy. A typical person, after writing the lies you do, would be asked &quot;have you no shame?&quot; Your history shows the answer to that question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894855">MikeN</a>.</p>
<p>mikeN, how did you become such a fountain of bullshit and falsehoods? We had video of machinery being taken out of facilities here in West Michigan the same day the grifter trump put in charge of the the service testified that he had stopped the practice. There were emails published detailing and end to overtime across the board. </p>
<p>your &#8216;refurbishing&#8217; bit is pure fantasy. A typical person, after writing the lies you do, would be asked &#8220;have you no shame?&#8221; Your history shows the answer to that question.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894865</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 11:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894855&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

mikeN, how did you become such a fountain of bullshit and falsehoods? We had video of machinery being taken out of facilities here in West Michigan the same day the grifter trump put in charge of the the service testified that he had stopped the practice. There were emails published detailing and end to overtime across the board. 

your &#039;refurbishing&#039; bit is pure fantasy. A typical person, after writing the lies you do, would be asked &quot;have you no shame?&quot; Your history shows the answer to that question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894855">MikeN</a>.</p>
<p>mikeN, how did you become such a fountain of bullshit and falsehoods? We had video of machinery being taken out of facilities here in West Michigan the same day the grifter trump put in charge of the the service testified that he had stopped the practice. There were emails published detailing and end to overtime across the board. </p>
<p>your &#8216;refurbishing&#8217; bit is pure fantasy. A typical person, after writing the lies you do, would be asked &#8220;have you no shame?&#8221; Your history shows the answer to that question.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/08/14/before-the-covid-19-vaccine-this/#comment-894856</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fauci 1/28/20: “Even if there is some asymptotic transmission, in all the history of respiratory born viruses of any type, asymptomatic transmission has never been the driver of outbreaks.”

Was Fauci right about this?   If so, then I think people could do with more moderation in their protocols.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fauci 1/28/20: “Even if there is some asymptotic transmission, in all the history of respiratory born viruses of any type, asymptomatic transmission has never been the driver of outbreaks.”</p>
<p>Was Fauci right about this?   If so, then I think people could do with more moderation in their protocols.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This Post Office story makes no sense.  Total volume is about 300 million pieces of mail spread over many days.  Not exactly a burden.  They don&#039;t need extra money for elections.  If anything they could get less money, since now states and cities are paying for hundreds of millions of letters, but again it&#039;s relatively small amount.

This is just the union workers complaining about reforms that have been going on for a long time.  I heard the complaints about how the Post Office is being required to fund its retiree health care 15 years ago.  Not the Postmaster General is cutting overtime by redoing the schedules.   Union responds by snapping some pictures of mailboxes collected for refurbishing, makes up a story, and people fall for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Post Office story makes no sense.  Total volume is about 300 million pieces of mail spread over many days.  Not exactly a burden.  They don&#8217;t need extra money for elections.  If anything they could get less money, since now states and cities are paying for hundreds of millions of letters, but again it&#8217;s relatively small amount.</p>
<p>This is just the union workers complaining about reforms that have been going on for a long time.  I heard the complaints about how the Post Office is being required to fund its retiree health care 15 years ago.  Not the Postmaster General is cutting overtime by redoing the schedules.   Union responds by snapping some pictures of mailboxes collected for refurbishing, makes up a story, and people fall for it.</p>
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		By: Jeffh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 06:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tyvor, Trump and his goon squad in the Republican Party are kleptofaciscists. I have never in my life witnessed such a charade involving a POTUS and the personality cult that surrounds him. Trump is of course playing his base as suckers, because behind the scenes he and the Republicans are looting the Treasury and pushing policies thar only benefit the ruling elite. The Republican Party is filled with crooks, conmen and hucksters, but they use slick PR to hide their true intentions. What is clear is that they hold democracy and the general public in complete and utter contempt, and will do literally anything, and I mean ANYTHING in capital letters, to cling onto power. Trump and his sordid family are all crooks, and realize that defeat in November will bring their power charade crashing down around them. They belong in jail, all of them. Calling them scum is being far too kind. They lack empathy for anything or anyone but themselves and those around them. The only reason the narcissist-in-chief retains 40% support is his uncanny ability to push the right buttons while lying with every breath. It is, as I said, PR of the slickest kind. Given his rank invompetence, his acceleration of the redistribution of wealth to the monied class, his utter disregard for the poor, minorities or the environment, that he has ANY support aside from the wealthiest Americans is something of a miracle. What is more astounding is that his base consists of the people whose policies he and his Party are harming the most. The working class is being completely shafted by Trump and the Republicans. Yet these are the people who show up in droves at his rallies in their MAGA hats and who troll the internet in large numbers. It truly boggles the mind. Walter Lippmann and Edward Bernays would be delighted to see how propaganda has enabled Trump to ‘manufacture the consent’ among many of the general population for his right wing, wealth redistributing austerity programs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyvor, Trump and his goon squad in the Republican Party are kleptofaciscists. I have never in my life witnessed such a charade involving a POTUS and the personality cult that surrounds him. Trump is of course playing his base as suckers, because behind the scenes he and the Republicans are looting the Treasury and pushing policies thar only benefit the ruling elite. The Republican Party is filled with crooks, conmen and hucksters, but they use slick PR to hide their true intentions. What is clear is that they hold democracy and the general public in complete and utter contempt, and will do literally anything, and I mean ANYTHING in capital letters, to cling onto power. Trump and his sordid family are all crooks, and realize that defeat in November will bring their power charade crashing down around them. They belong in jail, all of them. Calling them scum is being far too kind. They lack empathy for anything or anyone but themselves and those around them. The only reason the narcissist-in-chief retains 40% support is his uncanny ability to push the right buttons while lying with every breath. It is, as I said, PR of the slickest kind. Given his rank invompetence, his acceleration of the redistribution of wealth to the monied class, his utter disregard for the poor, minorities or the environment, that he has ANY support aside from the wealthiest Americans is something of a miracle. What is more astounding is that his base consists of the people whose policies he and his Party are harming the most. The working class is being completely shafted by Trump and the Republicans. Yet these are the people who show up in droves at his rallies in their MAGA hats and who troll the internet in large numbers. It truly boggles the mind. Walter Lippmann and Edward Bernays would be delighted to see how propaganda has enabled Trump to ‘manufacture the consent’ among many of the general population for his right wing, wealth redistributing austerity programs.</p>
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