… he still would have died…

I’ve seen nothing in the coroners’ reports, especially the independent second one, that indicates that Floyd wouldn’t be alive today if he hadn’t had his breathing and circulation cut off for close to nine minutes.

I’ve seen nothing in those reports that indicates that he wouldn’t be alive today if the pressure on his neck had been lifted the last time that he gasped that he couldn’t breathe, or his mother’s name…

I’ve seen nothing in those reports that indicates that he wouldn’t be alive today if he had been given appropriate resuscitation when he became unresponsive.

But carry on blaming the victim, and ignoring that he had his neck crushed for almost nine minutes.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/george-floyds-autopsy-and-the-structural-gaslighting-of-america/?fbclid=IwAR1xJyeY2KIhxRN_O9HsuD1Qbu7WiFqPTFkBGR4cwonz-sxuG6F13C9_Wh4&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

Get someone to explain the big words to you.

Of course not. What I am saying is that his death may have been caused by health issues that were triggered by the police actions, which were according to procedure up to a point. In this scenario, even if the police had sad him up as they should have done once they realized he wasn’t breathing(or earlier), he still would have died/was already dead. I’m thinking of something like what happened to Garner in New York.

I don’t believe his death was due to health problems, and the police are innocent, but I don’t rule it out entirely…

So you’re saying that there’s a reasonable chance that George Floyd may have died from natural causes at exactly the same time that the full weight of an adult male pressed on his right common carotid artery and œsophagus for nine minutes, and that that pressure had no effect…?

It’s the same as saying that global warming isn’t resulting from the increase in atmospheric CO₂…

#ParsimonyFail #RealityCheckFail

Lots of discussion of gaslighting, but ultimately it says we can’t rule out asphyxiation, not that it is definite.
I don’t believe his death was due to health problems, and the police are innocent, but I don’t rule it out entirely, even though they should have sat him up at a certain point. Like I said before it is possible, though unlikely, that following proper procedure would still have led to this death. That is a problem with the procedures being used, not racism by the police or individual officers.

Completely ignoring his prior history on behalf of a black person beaten by the police, or his own racial ancestry, part Peruvian, part black.
It probably bothers you that you can’t claim he was a white guy.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/george-floyds-autopsy-and-the-structural-gaslighting-of-america/?fbclid=IwAR1xJyeY2KIhxRN_O9HsuD1Qbu7WiFqPTFkBGR4cwonz-sxuG6F13C9_Wh4&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

Re: “why did he murder this kid?”

Racists and supremacists (racial, ethnic, or other) don’t need a specific reason to do something mean-to-awful to a particular member of the group which is the focus of their disdain or anger. That’s the fallacy of racism and “supremacism”: the idea that all members of one group are inferior in some way or ways to all individuals of another group and deserve punishment for that inferiority.

Not crazed mikeN. He killed him because he was a black teen and he didn’t think he should be in the area.

Clear as a bell to people who paid attention and aren’t racists. I would reserve the “crazed mind” to people who think defending continued violence against minorities is always justified, as you do, and who think defending a murdering nazi after the police released evidence showing his intent in his actions makes sense — which you also did.