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		By: Bernard J.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/05/04/how-the-pandemic-ends/#comment-882042</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2020 06:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/05/04/how-the-pandemic-ends/#comment-878602&quot;&gt;Bernard J.&lt;/a&gt;.

About two weeks ago I predicted elsewhere that the USA would top 50,000 daily cases of coronavirus by 4 July.  Today that happened:

https://www.ft.com/content/a6b959b8-83db-434f-bee4-c431b2187cac

There&#039;s good news - the #BlackLivesMatter protests appear to be responsible for a lessening of transmission because the protesters observed social distancing, and they kept the rest of the population off the streets in the process of marching in the streets.  That&#039;s fascinating...

And there&#039;s bad news - the trajectory is returning to exponential in most states, and due to the Republican reluctance and indeed antipathy to accept science, the numbers are only going to keep going up.  Any states that don&#039;t properly restrict Independence Day celebrations are going to find that this weekend only exacerbates the case spike for the virus by mid-month...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/05/04/how-the-pandemic-ends/#comment-878602">Bernard J.</a>.</p>
<p>About two weeks ago I predicted elsewhere that the USA would top 50,000 daily cases of coronavirus by 4 July.  Today that happened:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.ft.com/content/a6b959b8-83db-434f-bee4-c431b2187cac" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.ft.com/content/a6b959b8-83db-434f-bee4-c431b2187cac</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s good news &#8211; the #BlackLivesMatter protests appear to be responsible for a lessening of transmission because the protesters observed social distancing, and they kept the rest of the population off the streets in the process of marching in the streets.  That&#8217;s fascinating&#8230;</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s bad news &#8211; the trajectory is returning to exponential in most states, and due to the Republican reluctance and indeed antipathy to accept science, the numbers are only going to keep going up.  Any states that don&#8217;t properly restrict Independence Day celebrations are going to find that this weekend only exacerbates the case spike for the virus by mid-month&#8230;</p>
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		By: Bernard J.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/05/04/how-the-pandemic-ends/#comment-878602</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 05:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How the pandemic ends?  It won&#039;t be soon...

I&#039;ve been looking at the US infection data for the last week and I suspect that the coronavirus pandemic in the States is putting its skates on for the second wave.  And this is not due to the protests - those infections are yet to manifest in the system - it&#039;s due entirely to the rolling back of restrictions before the virus was properly controlled, on top of a lack of appropriate response measures in some states in the first place.

Independence Day is going to be an interesting time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How the pandemic ends?  It won&#8217;t be soon&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been looking at the US infection data for the last week and I suspect that the coronavirus pandemic in the States is putting its skates on for the second wave.  And this is not due to the protests &#8211; those infections are yet to manifest in the system &#8211; it&#8217;s due entirely to the rolling back of restrictions before the virus was properly controlled, on top of a lack of appropriate response measures in some states in the first place.</p>
<p>Independence Day is going to be an interesting time.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2020 16:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who predicted the answer would be for a Minneapolis cop to  murder a black guy?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who predicted the answer would be for a Minneapolis cop to  murder a black guy?</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/05/04/how-the-pandemic-ends/#comment-878129</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2020 03:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg:

I have two comments stuck in moderation again.  One for this post and one for a newer post.  Just FYI.  Sorry about the loser and his threats to your family.  Tough situation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:</p>
<p>I have two comments stuck in moderation again.  One for this post and one for a newer post.  Just FYI.  Sorry about the loser and his threats to your family.  Tough situation.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/05/04/how-the-pandemic-ends/#comment-878071</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2020 20:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmmm - that Lancet study about HCQ was retracted.  I guess the jury is still out on treating COVID-19 early with HCQ + AZ + zinc.  I hope it turns out to be of some use in making the disease less severe.  

The University of Minnesota still has a study going to address the question of use early in the disease, so we will have another result soon to look at.

Here is a link to the retraction:

https://retractionwatch.com/2020/06/04/lancet-retracts-controversial-hydroxychloroquine-study/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm &#8211; that Lancet study about HCQ was retracted.  I guess the jury is still out on treating COVID-19 early with HCQ + AZ + zinc.  I hope it turns out to be of some use in making the disease less severe.  </p>
<p>The University of Minnesota still has a study going to address the question of use early in the disease, so we will have another result soon to look at.</p>
<p>Here is a link to the retraction:</p>
<p><a href="https://retractionwatch.com/2020/06/04/lancet-retracts-controversial-hydroxychloroquine-study/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://retractionwatch.com/2020/06/04/lancet-retracts-controversial-hydroxychloroquine-study/</a></p>
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		By: Tyvor Winn		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/05/04/how-the-pandemic-ends/#comment-877030</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyvor Winn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2020 19:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/05/04/how-the-pandemic-ends/#comment-876881&quot;&gt;Jeffh&lt;/a&gt;.

Re: Jeffh &quot;. . . useless, narcissistic President . . .&quot;
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Worse than useless. While unwilling and unable to do anything but lie about and make money during the pandemic, he and his minions Mitch McConnell and Bill Barr have further undermined justice in the U. S. and seem to have made justice a commodity available for the right ideological and/or monetary price. See the two links below:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/20/kelly-loeffler-trump-super-pac-272626

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/doj-ends-insider-trading-investigations-into-loeffler-and-two-other-senators-burr-probe-continues-2020-05-26]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/05/04/how-the-pandemic-ends/#comment-876881">Jeffh</a>.</p>
<p>Re: Jeffh &#8220;. . . useless, narcissistic President . . .&#8221;<br />
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Worse than useless. While unwilling and unable to do anything but lie about and make money during the pandemic, he and his minions Mitch McConnell and Bill Barr have further undermined justice in the U. S. and seem to have made justice a commodity available for the right ideological and/or monetary price. See the two links below:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/20/kelly-loeffler-trump-super-pac-272626" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/20/kelly-loeffler-trump-super-pac-272626</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.marketwatch.com/story/doj-ends-insider-trading-investigations-into-loeffler-and-two-other-senators-burr-probe-continues-2020-05-26" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.marketwatch.com/story/doj-ends-insider-trading-investigations-into-loeffler-and-two-other-senators-burr-probe-continues-2020-05-26</a></p>
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		By: Jeffh		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/05/04/how-the-pandemic-ends/#comment-876881</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 21:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The very fact that a study published in the Lancet - a leading journal - reveals that HCQ is at best ineffective and at worst lethal for treating Covid-19 should in future preclude its use as a treatment of the virus. Glad to see its Use for Covid-19 being banned in several European countries; more will follow. RickA: egg on your face (again). Ritual self-humiliation seems to be one of your traits. Just like it is for your useless, narcissistic President that you so much admire.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very fact that a study published in the Lancet &#8211; a leading journal &#8211; reveals that HCQ is at best ineffective and at worst lethal for treating Covid-19 should in future preclude its use as a treatment of the virus. Glad to see its Use for Covid-19 being banned in several European countries; more will follow. RickA: egg on your face (again). Ritual self-humiliation seems to be one of your traits. Just like it is for your useless, narcissistic President that you so much admire.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/05/04/how-the-pandemic-ends/#comment-876813</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 13:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[rickA once again demonstrates he has no effing ability to distinguish good research from the crap that satisfies his ignorant wishes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rickA once again demonstrates he has no effing ability to distinguish good research from the crap that satisfies his ignorant wishes.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/05/04/how-the-pandemic-ends/#comment-876812</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 13:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is an open letter regarding the data collection for the lancet study and raising some concerns:

https://zenodo.org/record/3862789#.XtEME2hKiUn]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an open letter regarding the data collection for the lancet study and raising some concerns:</p>
<p><a href="https://zenodo.org/record/3862789#.XtEME2hKiUn" rel="nofollow ugc">https://zenodo.org/record/3862789#.XtEME2hKiUn</a></p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2020/05/04/how-the-pandemic-ends/#comment-876811</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 13:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another interesting article about the use of HCQ with AZ:

https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586

You can download the PDF from the link.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting article about the use of HCQ with AZ:</p>
<p><a href="https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586" rel="nofollow ugc">https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586</a></p>
<p>You can download the PDF from the link.</p>
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