Why are you repeating irrelevant distractions?

Oh yes, because you are fucked on this thread.

You still haven’t answered if it’s possible for antibody levels to drop for a disease for which someone has developed immunity.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-brazil-manaus-idUSKBN26I0I4

…the travesty of Donald Trump’s nomination of her successor.

Trump announced on Saturday his pick of Amy Coney Barrett, an extremely conservative judge known by some as “the female Antonin Scalia” to replace Ginsburg, setting the stage for a likely confirmation vote whose “impact could be dire”, Oliver explained.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/sep/28/john-oliver-amy-coney-barrett-supreme-court

Coney-Barret’s eyes look a little wild.

This is about the dismantling of any lingering democracy and effectively the end of the power of the USA. How come? Because every empire that preceded that of the USA crashed and burned once religious fundamentalism took hold.

This happened to the Greeks, Romans, Byzantium, and the Islamic world. That latter, the scientific centre of the world during the Dark Ages in Europe, until fundamentalism took over.

The USA after a post WW2 recovery in educational standards and scientific literacy had a populace that in greater measure than now could digest the information received and engage analytical thought.

“The Age of American Unreason in a Culture of Lies” By Susan Jacoby

Should be read to grasp how and why education in the USA for the majority is now inadequate for citizens to have informed opinion, the informed opinion which Thomas Jefferson stated as being so important for a stable democracy. I figure the founding fathers are now getting dizzy in their graves.

I have the 2008 edition having just ordered the 2018 update to be more current.

Now the next book has been looked at by Greg here, go read about it, then read it.

“The War on Science: Who’s Waging It, Why It Matters, What We Can Do About It” by Sawn Otto

Finally

‘The Demon-Haunted World’ by Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan

still speaks to us despite being twenty five years old.

Ha ha ha ha.

Wait, I’m guessing you’re serious. Let me laugh harder and generate more scorn for your ignorance.

That quote was in my link. I saw it, but didn’t think it meant, ‘rule by a better set of men’, but rather protecting people’s property from being taken from them by the mob. Madison predicted the Communists 100 years ahead of time.

From your link Jeffh:

A particularly instructive example is the reaction to Guatemala’s first experiment with democracy. In this case the secret record is partially available, so we know a good deal about the thinking that guided policy. In 1952 the CIA warned that the “radical and nationalist policies” of the government had gained “the support or acquiescence of almost all Guatemalans.” The government was “mobilizing the hitherto politically inert peasantry” and creating “mass support for the present regime” by means of labor organization, agrarian reform,…

As we know the USA through the CIA meddled with Guateamala, deposing Arbinez, on behalf of the United Fruit Company who didn’t like the move to end the exploitative labour practices.

Guatemala, of course, was not the only Latin American country to feel the effect of covert CIA operations. El Salvador, Panama, Nicaragua, Chile, Argentina to name but few.

See ‘Bitter Fruit: The Story of the American Coup in Guatemala’ by Stephen Schlesinger, Stephen Kinzer

and

‘Empire’s Workshop: Latin America, the United States, and the Rise of the New Imperialism’ by Greg Grandin.

Covers of the above appear in this montage of books on related topics laid out as a repeating bookmark A4 landscape.

Imperialism bookmark

Now for something different, an image of the Brachypelma boehmei ‘Mexican fireleg’ that lives with me.

Further up thread I linked in images of Nhandu chromatus -Brazilian Red & White, White Striped Birdeater and Poecilotheria metallica, Gooty sapphire ornamental that also reside here with a few other exotics.

From Noam Chomsky (1998)

https://chomsky.info/profit02/

Most relevant:

‘The main designer, furthermore, was an astute political thinker James Madison, whose views largely prevailed. In the debates on the Constitution, Madison pointed out that if elections in England “were open to all classes of people, the property of landed proprietors would be insecure. An agrarian law would soon take place,” giving land to the landless. The Constitutional system must be designed to prevent such injustice and “secure the permanent interests of the country,” which are property rights.

Among Madisonian scholars, there is a consensus that “the Constitution was intrinsically an aristocratic document designed to check the democratic tendencies of the period,” delivering power to a “better sort” of people and excluding those who were not rich, well born, or prominent from exercising political power (Lance Banning). The primary responsibility of government is “to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority,” Madison declared. That has been the guiding principle of the democratic system from its origins until today.

In public discussion, Madison spoke of the rights of minorities in general, but it is quite clear that he had a particular minority in mind “the minority of the opulent.” Modern political theory stresses Madison’s belief that “in a just and a free government the rights both of property and of persons ought to be effectually guarded.” But in this case too it is useful to look at the doctrine more carefully. There are no rights of property, only rights to property that is, rights of persons with property. Perhaps I have a right to my car, but my car has no rights. The right to property also differs from others in that one person’s possession of property deprives another of that right if I own my car, you do not; but in a just and free society, my freedom of speech would not limit yours. The Madisonian principle, then, is that government must guard the rights of persons generally, but must provide special and additional guarantees for the rights of one class of persons, property owners.

Madison foresaw that the threat of democracy was likely to become more severe over time because of the increase in “the proportion of those who will labor under all the hardships of life, and secretly sigh for a more equal distribution of its blessings.” They might gain influence, Madison feared. He was concerned by the “symptoms of a leveling spirit” that had already appeared, and warned “of the future danger” if the right to vote would place “power over property in hands without a share in it.” Those “without property, or the hope of acquiring it, cannot be expected to sympathize sufficiently with its rights,” Madison explained. His solution was to keep political power in the hands of those who “come from and represent the wealth of the nation,” the “more capable set of men,” with the general public fragmented and disorganized’.