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	Comments on: Koch-Tank Drains Out Climate Denial Group: Michaels, Maue, Gone	</title>
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		By: Christopher Winter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/05/29/koch-tank-drains-out-climate-denial-group-michaels-maue-gone/#comment-770402</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2019 20:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Waldman reports Michaels as saying, “They informed me that they didn’t think their vision of a think tank was in the science business, and so I said, ‘OK, bye.’ There had been some controversy going around the building for some time, so things got to a situation where they didn’t work out.”&lt;/i&gt;

I note the way Michaels assumes what he&#039;d been offering is science. True, he has a scientific degree and accepts some of the basics of climate change science. But that just enables him to dissemble more skillfully.

He once, IIRC, served as Virginia&#039;s state climatologist but was removed from that position because of misstatements. I couldn&#039;t find anything to back that up today. Nevertheless, his record of distortion is well documented.

https://climateinvestigations.org/patrick-michaels-climate-denial/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Waldman reports Michaels as saying, “They informed me that they didn’t think their vision of a think tank was in the science business, and so I said, ‘OK, bye.’ There had been some controversy going around the building for some time, so things got to a situation where they didn’t work out.”</i></p>
<p>I note the way Michaels assumes what he&#8217;d been offering is science. True, he has a scientific degree and accepts some of the basics of climate change science. But that just enables him to dissemble more skillfully.</p>
<p>He once, IIRC, served as Virginia&#8217;s state climatologist but was removed from that position because of misstatements. I couldn&#8217;t find anything to back that up today. Nevertheless, his record of distortion is well documented.</p>
<p><a href="https://climateinvestigations.org/patrick-michaels-climate-denial/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://climateinvestigations.org/patrick-michaels-climate-denial/</a></p>
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		By: BBD		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/05/29/koch-tank-drains-out-climate-denial-group-michaels-maue-gone/#comment-768840</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BBD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jun 2019 20:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/05/29/koch-tank-drains-out-climate-denial-group-michaels-maue-gone/#comment-767706&quot;&gt;Doug Alder&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;

Do you have an email address for the Koch brothers?

It would be nice to get paid for my opinions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why should they pay you? Shepherds don&#039;t pay sheep.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/05/29/koch-tank-drains-out-climate-denial-group-michaels-maue-gone/#comment-767706">Doug Alder</a>.</p>
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<p>Do you have an email address for the Koch brothers?</p>
<p>It would be nice to get paid for my opinions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why should they pay you? Shepherds don&#8217;t pay sheep.</p>
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		By: dhogaza		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/05/29/koch-tank-drains-out-climate-denial-group-michaels-maue-gone/#comment-768724</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dhogaza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jun 2019 04:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They won, until January 2021 at a minimum and mostly beyond, because even if Trump loses the Senate will be controlled by the GOP.

So they have no reason to continue paying their usefully compliant purveyors of pseudo-science who happen to have some credibility because of their degrees and in the case of Lindzen, a tenured position at MIT.

Kind of touching, really, the way these two are tossed to the curb once they&#039;re not needed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They won, until January 2021 at a minimum and mostly beyond, because even if Trump loses the Senate will be controlled by the GOP.</p>
<p>So they have no reason to continue paying their usefully compliant purveyors of pseudo-science who happen to have some credibility because of their degrees and in the case of Lindzen, a tenured position at MIT.</p>
<p>Kind of touching, really, the way these two are tossed to the curb once they&#8217;re not needed.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/05/29/koch-tank-drains-out-climate-denial-group-michaels-maue-gone/#comment-768115</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2019 14:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Do you have an email address for the Koch brothers?

It would be nice to get paid for my opinions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Contact them. You&#039;d probably be able to get an immediate job teaching their people advanced ways to lie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Do you have an email address for the Koch brothers?</p>
<p>It would be nice to get paid for my opinions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Contact them. You&#8217;d probably be able to get an immediate job teaching their people advanced ways to lie.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/05/29/koch-tank-drains-out-climate-denial-group-michaels-maue-gone/#comment-767733</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 20:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/05/29/koch-tank-drains-out-climate-denial-group-michaels-maue-gone/#comment-767706&quot;&gt;Doug Alder&lt;/a&gt;.

It is against their short term interests, but their is a longer game as well. Repeatedly dismissing, and lying about science in various areas. Making people think the basics of climate change ( and evolution and vaccination safety, etc) plays to the base of the right. They&#039;ve spent years convincing people education and knowledge are bad, and this helps. You only need to look at ricka&#039;s repeated lies and dismissal of science ( and basic decency) for an illustration of the type of mindless dishonesty they want in the supporters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/05/29/koch-tank-drains-out-climate-denial-group-michaels-maue-gone/#comment-767706">Doug Alder</a>.</p>
<p>It is against their short term interests, but their is a longer game as well. Repeatedly dismissing, and lying about science in various areas. Making people think the basics of climate change ( and evolution and vaccination safety, etc) plays to the base of the right. They&#8217;ve spent years convincing people education and knowledge are bad, and this helps. You only need to look at ricka&#8217;s repeated lies and dismissal of science ( and basic decency) for an illustration of the type of mindless dishonesty they want in the supporters.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 19:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/05/29/koch-tank-drains-out-climate-denial-group-michaels-maue-gone/#comment-767706&quot;&gt;Doug Alder&lt;/a&gt;.

Do you have an email address for the Koch brothers?

It would be nice to get paid for my opinions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/05/29/koch-tank-drains-out-climate-denial-group-michaels-maue-gone/#comment-767706">Doug Alder</a>.</p>
<p>Do you have an email address for the Koch brothers?</p>
<p>It would be nice to get paid for my opinions.</p>
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		By: Doug Alder		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/05/29/koch-tank-drains-out-climate-denial-group-michaels-maue-gone/#comment-767706</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Alder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 19:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something tells me they&#039;ll still continue to make statements denying the seriousness of climate change because that&#039;s in the short term interest of the Koch Bros.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something tells me they&#8217;ll still continue to make statements denying the seriousness of climate change because that&#8217;s in the short term interest of the Koch Bros.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/05/29/koch-tank-drains-out-climate-denial-group-michaels-maue-gone/#comment-767632</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 16:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;...a libertarian “think” tank&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Unfortunate term. No such thing exists, since libertarian policy (as executed by those dicks and rickA on your blog)  is based on &quot;might makes right&quot; and nothing more. Dogma institute is the correct term.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;a libertarian “think” tank</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunate term. No such thing exists, since libertarian policy (as executed by those dicks and rickA on your blog)  is based on &#8220;might makes right&#8221; and nothing more. Dogma institute is the correct term.</p>
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