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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752642</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752639&quot;&gt;Jeffh&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Stick to law. Science is clearly something at which you stink.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Given his lack of ability in so many areas, it&#039;s doubtful there is a meaningful distinction between his performance in the two you mention: there&#039;s probably an equally low standard for them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752639">Jeffh</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Stick to law. Science is clearly something at which you stink.</p></blockquote>
<p>Given his lack of ability in so many areas, it&#8217;s doubtful there is a meaningful distinction between his performance in the two you mention: there&#8217;s probably an equally low standard for them.</p>
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		By: Jeffh		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2019 19:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RickA, your ignorance is so deep that it pains me to respond to the continual outpouring of your risible bilge.

You claim that ‘polar bears, coral reefs and humans will be fine’. How about Passenger Pigeons? Ivory-Billed Woodpeckers? Carolina Parakeets? Bachman’s Warblers? Or, for that matter, most of Hawaii’s birds? Or the 700 species of rails that once inhabited the Pacific Islands? Or the vultures that once inhabited India? Or, for that matter populations of songbirds across the Nearctic and Palearctic that are in population freefall? Ditto amphibians across the world? How about American Chestnut trees? Or rainforest-dependent species around the world? Are they all going to be fine too? 

What about the mastadons, mammoths, dire wolves, giant sloths, glyptodonts, woolly rhinoceroses, smilodons and other great mammals that abounded across the northern hemisphere during the Pleistocene? Are they going to be alright? 

You can bet that when Clovis man arrived in North America 12,000 or so ago and began to annihilate much of the megafauna, it was inconceivable that they would ultimately end up killing over 70% of the species there over the following 20 centuries. When Europeans arrived around 5 centuries ago I am sure that the early colonists would have scoffed at the idea that their children and their children etc. would rapidly wipe out the Passenger Pigeon, which numbered in the tens of billions, in just 100-200 years.

What I am saying RickA is that your comments mean diddly squat. You don’t have a clue what you are writing about. If, as is very likely to happen, warming continues unabated, and the Arctic becomes seasonally ice-free within a few decades, then polar bears will most certainty not be alright. They will be gone. Ditto for corals. Indeed, climate warming is already hammering biodiversity across a wide array of taxa. You are a clueless right wing dolt who can’t tell a mole cricket from a giraffe. Consequently, your views are junk. 

Stick to law. Science is clearly something at which you stink.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RickA, your ignorance is so deep that it pains me to respond to the continual outpouring of your risible bilge.</p>
<p>You claim that ‘polar bears, coral reefs and humans will be fine’. How about Passenger Pigeons? Ivory-Billed Woodpeckers? Carolina Parakeets? Bachman’s Warblers? Or, for that matter, most of Hawaii’s birds? Or the 700 species of rails that once inhabited the Pacific Islands? Or the vultures that once inhabited India? Or, for that matter populations of songbirds across the Nearctic and Palearctic that are in population freefall? Ditto amphibians across the world? How about American Chestnut trees? Or rainforest-dependent species around the world? Are they all going to be fine too? </p>
<p>What about the mastadons, mammoths, dire wolves, giant sloths, glyptodonts, woolly rhinoceroses, smilodons and other great mammals that abounded across the northern hemisphere during the Pleistocene? Are they going to be alright? </p>
<p>You can bet that when Clovis man arrived in North America 12,000 or so ago and began to annihilate much of the megafauna, it was inconceivable that they would ultimately end up killing over 70% of the species there over the following 20 centuries. When Europeans arrived around 5 centuries ago I am sure that the early colonists would have scoffed at the idea that their children and their children etc. would rapidly wipe out the Passenger Pigeon, which numbered in the tens of billions, in just 100-200 years.</p>
<p>What I am saying RickA is that your comments mean diddly squat. You don’t have a clue what you are writing about. If, as is very likely to happen, warming continues unabated, and the Arctic becomes seasonally ice-free within a few decades, then polar bears will most certainty not be alright. They will be gone. Ditto for corals. Indeed, climate warming is already hammering biodiversity across a wide array of taxa. You are a clueless right wing dolt who can’t tell a mole cricket from a giraffe. Consequently, your views are junk. </p>
<p>Stick to law. Science is clearly something at which you stink.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752403</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2019 01:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752273&quot;&gt;oa&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;But the same could be said for the fear progressives have of global warming; &quot;

No. Your &quot;fear&quot; of devil&#039;s night is based on your racism and exaggerations of what went on. The issues of climate change are based on established science. The fact that you are willing to like to yourself and anyone who will listen that the science is wrong is irrelevant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752273">oa</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;But the same could be said for the fear progressives have of global warming; &#8221;</p>
<p>No. Your &#8220;fear&#8221; of devil&#8217;s night is based on your racism and exaggerations of what went on. The issues of climate change are based on established science. The fact that you are willing to like to yourself and anyone who will listen that the science is wrong is irrelevant.</p>
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		By: Dean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2019 01:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752273&quot;&gt;oa&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;What you are referring to is called second hand knowledge, also called anecdotal. It was nice of you to confirm you actually have no first hand knowledge of the devil’s night scene from the 70’s and 80’s. That is what I thought&quot;

The difference ricka is that I have stories from people I trust and paid attention to the news at the time. 

You are not trustworthy. You are a racist, and your entire &quot;experience&quot; is formed through that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752273">oa</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;What you are referring to is called second hand knowledge, also called anecdotal. It was nice of you to confirm you actually have no first hand knowledge of the devil’s night scene from the 70’s and 80’s. That is what I thought&#8221;</p>
<p>The difference ricka is that I have stories from people I trust and paid attention to the news at the time. </p>
<p>You are not trustworthy. You are a racist, and your entire &#8220;experience&#8221; is formed through that.</p>
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		By: oa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2019 16:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are things that scare me, but that&#039;s not what we&#039;re talking about. You know that and are afraid to confront it.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/calling-truce-political-wars/

--
First hand for Dean&#039;s observers. That&#039;s what he meant and you know it but are afraid to acknowledge it straight on. Squirt, little squid, squirt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are things that scare me, but that&#8217;s not what we&#8217;re talking about. You know that and are afraid to confront it.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/calling-truce-political-wars/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/calling-truce-political-wars/</a></p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
First hand for Dean&#8217;s observers. That&#8217;s what he meant and you know it but are afraid to acknowledge it straight on. Squirt, little squid, squirt.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2019 15:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752229&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

dean says &quot;I have first hand knowledge, from cousins, an aunt, and from college roommates who lived there, that it wasn’t scary.&quot;

I don&#039;t think &quot;first hand&quot; means what you think it means.  First hand means stuff you witness with your own eyes - not reports you receive from somebody else.

What you are referring to is called second hand knowledge, also called anecdotal.  It was nice of you to confirm you actually have no first hand knowledge of the devil&#039;s night scene from the 70&#039;s and 80&#039;s.  That is what I thought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752229">dean</a>.</p>
<p>dean says &#8220;I have first hand knowledge, from cousins, an aunt, and from college roommates who lived there, that it wasn’t scary.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think &#8220;first hand&#8221; means what you think it means.  First hand means stuff you witness with your own eyes &#8211; not reports you receive from somebody else.</p>
<p>What you are referring to is called second hand knowledge, also called anecdotal.  It was nice of you to confirm you actually have no first hand knowledge of the devil&#8217;s night scene from the 70&#8217;s and 80&#8217;s.  That is what I thought.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2019 15:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752229&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

oa:

Of course you are entitled to your opinion of my fear level (because I said devil&#039;s night was scary).

But the same could be said for the fear progressives have of global warming; fear of the future; fear of nuclear power and so forth.  Progressives fears warp the way they see everything also.

The planet has already warmed almost 1 degree C and really - what bad things have actually happened.  Not much.  The sea level has risen 8 or 9 inches.  Nights and winters are a bit warmer than they used to be.  But the fear of the next degree of warming is all out of proportion to the actual bad results we have already seen from the first degree (in my opinion).  So I think your fear warps the way you see the future.

I say - don&#039;t worry.  The corals will be fine.  The polar bears will be fine.  Humans will be fine.  And so forth.  I am not afraid of the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752229">dean</a>.</p>
<p>oa:</p>
<p>Of course you are entitled to your opinion of my fear level (because I said devil&#8217;s night was scary).</p>
<p>But the same could be said for the fear progressives have of global warming; fear of the future; fear of nuclear power and so forth.  Progressives fears warp the way they see everything also.</p>
<p>The planet has already warmed almost 1 degree C and really &#8211; what bad things have actually happened.  Not much.  The sea level has risen 8 or 9 inches.  Nights and winters are a bit warmer than they used to be.  But the fear of the next degree of warming is all out of proportion to the actual bad results we have already seen from the first degree (in my opinion).  So I think your fear warps the way you see the future.</p>
<p>I say &#8211; don&#8217;t worry.  The corals will be fine.  The polar bears will be fine.  Humans will be fine.  And so forth.  I am not afraid of the future.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752259</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2019 15:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752229&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;have first hand knowledge that devils night was pretty bad (and scary). &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have first hand knowledge, from cousins, an aunt, and from college roommates who lived there, that it wasn&#039;t scary. 

Of course, they aren&#039;t (or wasn&#039;t, in the case of the long departed aunt) racists.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And there’s the word at the core of Rick and the alt-right’s problem, ‘scary’. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That fear comes from the existence of people who aren&#039;t well-off white men.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752229">dean</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>have first hand knowledge that devils night was pretty bad (and scary). </p></blockquote>
<p>I have first hand knowledge, from cousins, an aunt, and from college roommates who lived there, that it wasn&#8217;t scary. </p>
<p>Of course, they aren&#8217;t (or wasn&#8217;t, in the case of the long departed aunt) racists.</p>
<blockquote><p>And there’s the word at the core of Rick and the alt-right’s problem, ‘scary’. </p></blockquote>
<p>That fear comes from the existence of people who aren&#8217;t well-off white men.</p>
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		By: oa		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752245</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2019 14:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752229&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

Dean,

And there&#039;s the word at the core of Rick and the alt-right&#039;s problem, &#039;scary&#039;.  In a fundamental way that they can&#039;t address, unregulated fear warps everything they think they see around them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752229">dean</a>.</p>
<p>Dean,</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s the word at the core of Rick and the alt-right&#8217;s problem, &#8216;scary&#8217;.  In a fundamental way that they can&#8217;t address, unregulated fear warps everything they think they see around them.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2019 13:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752229&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

Once again we will simply have to agree to disagree.  I lived in Troy MI from 1968 to 1977 and have first hand knowledge that devils night was pretty bad (and scary).  I am glad it is not so bad now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/04/15/just-how-stupid-are-elected-representatives/#comment-752229">dean</a>.</p>
<p>Once again we will simply have to agree to disagree.  I lived in Troy MI from 1968 to 1977 and have first hand knowledge that devils night was pretty bad (and scary).  I am glad it is not so bad now.</p>
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