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		By: dean		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; – I see no evidence of this&quot;

Since you see no evidence of Trump&#039;s racism  either there is no reason to believe anything you say about this bit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; – I see no evidence of this&#8221;</p>
<p>Since you see no evidence of Trump&#8217;s racism  either there is no reason to believe anything you say about this bit.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2019 15:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was listening to both AM950 (very progressive radio station) and AM1280 (very conservative radio station) on the way into work today.

It is always interesting to compare and contrast the different world views of the bubbles each side are in.

The progressive side was filled with conspiracy ideation related to the cover-up and the deletion of all the &quot;good&quot; evidence from the Mueller report.  The radio hosts actually believe that Barr is editing the report - not to remove grand jury testimony as required by law - but to strip out the evidence of collusion.  Obviously in their world view, this evidence has to exist and the fact that Barr summarized Mueller&#039;s report to state there is no collusion with Russia on the part of the Trump campaign must be wrong and in fact nefarious.  

Of course - I see no evidence of this and if it was happening you can bet we will be seeing leaks galore from the progressive and liberal wings of the Justice department.  All we know right now is that as much of the report as law permits will be published and they are taking out the stuff the law requires them to take out.  Statements to the contrary are simply based on assumptions, motivated reasoning and conspiracy ideation - because there is simply no evidence to back up their paranoia.  

Meanwhile - over on 1280 they were taking about Jussie Smollett, and engaging in some conspiracy ideation related to the dropping of the charges.  Since I am more in the conservative bubble than the progressive one, I have to admit that the dropping of the charges against Smollett strikes me as weird and unusual.  So I hope we learn more about how that happened.

Meanwhile - I very much doubt evidence of collusion is being stripped out of Mueller&#039;s report - but I guess we will see.  At a minimum - if that were to occur, I believe Mueller might mention that.  But wait - maybe Muller is in on it!  No - then there wouldn&#039;t be any evidence of collusion to strip out of the report.

Very entertaining!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was listening to both AM950 (very progressive radio station) and AM1280 (very conservative radio station) on the way into work today.</p>
<p>It is always interesting to compare and contrast the different world views of the bubbles each side are in.</p>
<p>The progressive side was filled with conspiracy ideation related to the cover-up and the deletion of all the &#8220;good&#8221; evidence from the Mueller report.  The radio hosts actually believe that Barr is editing the report &#8211; not to remove grand jury testimony as required by law &#8211; but to strip out the evidence of collusion.  Obviously in their world view, this evidence has to exist and the fact that Barr summarized Mueller&#8217;s report to state there is no collusion with Russia on the part of the Trump campaign must be wrong and in fact nefarious.  </p>
<p>Of course &#8211; I see no evidence of this and if it was happening you can bet we will be seeing leaks galore from the progressive and liberal wings of the Justice department.  All we know right now is that as much of the report as law permits will be published and they are taking out the stuff the law requires them to take out.  Statements to the contrary are simply based on assumptions, motivated reasoning and conspiracy ideation &#8211; because there is simply no evidence to back up their paranoia.  </p>
<p>Meanwhile &#8211; over on 1280 they were taking about Jussie Smollett, and engaging in some conspiracy ideation related to the dropping of the charges.  Since I am more in the conservative bubble than the progressive one, I have to admit that the dropping of the charges against Smollett strikes me as weird and unusual.  So I hope we learn more about how that happened.</p>
<p>Meanwhile &#8211; I very much doubt evidence of collusion is being stripped out of Mueller&#8217;s report &#8211; but I guess we will see.  At a minimum &#8211; if that were to occur, I believe Mueller might mention that.  But wait &#8211; maybe Muller is in on it!  No &#8211; then there wouldn&#8217;t be any evidence of collusion to strip out of the report.</p>
<p>Very entertaining!</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2019 21:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
Appearing on Fox Business Network’s Cavuto Coast to Coast Wednesday, Napolitano attempted to explain exactly where Schiff was coming from by getting inside his “head.”

“We saw on Sunday a four-page summary of a 700-page report,” the Fox analyst said. “The 700-page report is a summary of two million pages of documents, of raw evidence.”

PAST IS PROLOGUE
The Mueller Report Could Be Like the Nixon Tapes
David R. Lurie

He continued: “In the 700-page summary of the two million pages of raw evidence, there is undoubtedly some evidence of a conspiracy and some evidence of obstruction of justice, just not enough evidence—I’m thinking the way I believe Congressman Schiff is thinking—according to Attorney General Barr, not enough evidence to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, which is the standard.”

Napolitano went on to note that if “there were no evidence of conspiracy and no evidence of obstruction, the attorney general would have told us so,” adding that Barr didn’t, so “there is something there” that Democrats and Trump opponents want to see. And they’ll have a “field day” with it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Interesting (but will probably go nowhere). Not that Napolitano is any less partisan, or more honest, or less bigoted, etc., than rickA and mikeN, but interesting that he seemingly isn&#039;t as whitewashed as they are. It&#039;s also interesting to see (at least one lawyer, Napolitano) comment on this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Appearing on Fox Business Network’s Cavuto Coast to Coast Wednesday, Napolitano attempted to explain exactly where Schiff was coming from by getting inside his “head.”</p>
<p>“We saw on Sunday a four-page summary of a 700-page report,” the Fox analyst said. “The 700-page report is a summary of two million pages of documents, of raw evidence.”</p>
<p>PAST IS PROLOGUE<br />
The Mueller Report Could Be Like the Nixon Tapes<br />
David R. Lurie</p>
<p>He continued: “In the 700-page summary of the two million pages of raw evidence, there is undoubtedly some evidence of a conspiracy and some evidence of obstruction of justice, just not enough evidence—I’m thinking the way I believe Congressman Schiff is thinking—according to Attorney General Barr, not enough evidence to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, which is the standard.”</p>
<p>Napolitano went on to note that if “there were no evidence of conspiracy and no evidence of obstruction, the attorney general would have told us so,” adding that Barr didn’t, so “there is something there” that Democrats and Trump opponents want to see. And they’ll have a “field day” with it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting (but will probably go nowhere). Not that Napolitano is any less partisan, or more honest, or less bigoted, etc., than rickA and mikeN, but interesting that he seemingly isn&#8217;t as whitewashed as they are. It&#8217;s also interesting to see (at least one lawyer, Napolitano) comment on this.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2019 19:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/03/24/a-few-preliminary-thoughts-about-the-mueller-report-vis-a-vis-the-trump-crime-family-and-the-2020-election/#comment-739544&quot;&gt;Doug Alder&lt;/a&gt;.

BBD:

We will see.

I am happy to discuss any of the other issues you think will be a problem for Trump.

Perhaps the Emoluments clause will be next up?

I am looking forward to the various investigations and court cases.

I find them interesting and entertaining.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/03/24/a-few-preliminary-thoughts-about-the-mueller-report-vis-a-vis-the-trump-crime-family-and-the-2020-election/#comment-739544">Doug Alder</a>.</p>
<p>BBD:</p>
<p>We will see.</p>
<p>I am happy to discuss any of the other issues you think will be a problem for Trump.</p>
<p>Perhaps the Emoluments clause will be next up?</p>
<p>I am looking forward to the various investigations and court cases.</p>
<p>I find them interesting and entertaining.</p>
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		By: BBD		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2019 19:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/03/24/a-few-preliminary-thoughts-about-the-mueller-report-vis-a-vis-the-trump-crime-family-and-the-2020-election/#comment-739544&quot;&gt;Doug Alder&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I gave you my opinion on why I didn’t see any evidence for collusion or obstruction, and Trump wasn’t indicted for collusion or obstruction. So my analysis was correct.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt;, RickA? That&#039;s a bit partial of you. There&#039;s plenty of circumstantial evidence for both, just not enough for a criminal prosecution. But not to worry. As I just said to MikeN, there&#039;s so much more legal jeopardy for Trump that Mueller will soon be the least of his worries. 

Like the Donald and MikeN, you shouldn&#039;t break out the bunting too soon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/03/24/a-few-preliminary-thoughts-about-the-mueller-report-vis-a-vis-the-trump-crime-family-and-the-2020-election/#comment-739544">Doug Alder</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>I gave you my opinion on why I didn’t see any evidence for collusion or obstruction, and Trump wasn’t indicted for collusion or obstruction. So my analysis was correct.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not <i>any</i>, RickA? That&#8217;s a bit partial of you. There&#8217;s plenty of circumstantial evidence for both, just not enough for a criminal prosecution. But not to worry. As I just said to MikeN, there&#8217;s so much more legal jeopardy for Trump that Mueller will soon be the least of his worries. </p>
<p>Like the Donald and MikeN, you shouldn&#8217;t break out the bunting too soon.</p>
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		By: BBD		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2019 19:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/03/24/a-few-preliminary-thoughts-about-the-mueller-report-vis-a-vis-the-trump-crime-family-and-the-2020-election/#comment-740041&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;because the Russia hoax &lt;/blockquote&gt;

There is a world of difference between a &lt;i&gt;hoax&lt;/i&gt; and not having enough evidence for a criminal prosecution, MikeN. 

Both you and dear Donald should bear this in mind as you crow. And there&#039;s so very much more legal jeopardy for the Donald that Mueller is poor grounds indeed for a victory lap.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/03/24/a-few-preliminary-thoughts-about-the-mueller-report-vis-a-vis-the-trump-crime-family-and-the-2020-election/#comment-740041">MikeN</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>because the Russia hoax </p></blockquote>
<p>There is a world of difference between a <i>hoax</i> and not having enough evidence for a criminal prosecution, MikeN. </p>
<p>Both you and dear Donald should bear this in mind as you crow. And there&#8217;s so very much more legal jeopardy for the Donald that Mueller is poor grounds indeed for a victory lap.</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2019 19:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/03/24/a-few-preliminary-thoughts-about-the-mueller-report-vis-a-vis-the-trump-crime-family-and-the-2020-election/#comment-739544&quot;&gt;Doug Alder&lt;/a&gt;.

dean:

I gave you my opinion on why I didn&#039;t see any evidence for collusion or obstruction, and Trump wasn&#039;t indicted for collusion or obstruction.  So my analysis was correct.

I simply ignore the rest of your insults (as usual).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/03/24/a-few-preliminary-thoughts-about-the-mueller-report-vis-a-vis-the-trump-crime-family-and-the-2020-election/#comment-739544">Doug Alder</a>.</p>
<p>dean:</p>
<p>I gave you my opinion on why I didn&#8217;t see any evidence for collusion or obstruction, and Trump wasn&#8217;t indicted for collusion or obstruction.  So my analysis was correct.</p>
<p>I simply ignore the rest of your insults (as usual).</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2019 18:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/03/24/a-few-preliminary-thoughts-about-the-mueller-report-vis-a-vis-the-trump-crime-family-and-the-2020-election/#comment-739544&quot;&gt;Doug Alder&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Right – don’t listen to me – even though I got it right.&quot;

No rickA, the very report you cite says Trump isn&#039;t exonerated of everything. As I&#039;ve said before, if I want a legal take on something I&#039;ll look for a real lawyer, not you.

And, as is proven repeatedly, you&#039;ll continue to be happy with the racist, bigoted, anti-poor, anti-minority, anti-woman, comments from trump, because those things match your opinions. Same with the acceptance of nazis and white supremacists. 

The only thing you&#039;ve proved is that you vile people cling to each other.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/03/24/a-few-preliminary-thoughts-about-the-mueller-report-vis-a-vis-the-trump-crime-family-and-the-2020-election/#comment-739544">Doug Alder</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Right – don’t listen to me – even though I got it right.&#8221;</p>
<p>No rickA, the very report you cite says Trump isn&#8217;t exonerated of everything. As I&#8217;ve said before, if I want a legal take on something I&#8217;ll look for a real lawyer, not you.</p>
<p>And, as is proven repeatedly, you&#8217;ll continue to be happy with the racist, bigoted, anti-poor, anti-minority, anti-woman, comments from trump, because those things match your opinions. Same with the acceptance of nazis and white supremacists. </p>
<p>The only thing you&#8217;ve proved is that you vile people cling to each other.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2019 12:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/03/24/a-few-preliminary-thoughts-about-the-mueller-report-vis-a-vis-the-trump-crime-family-and-the-2020-election/#comment-739498&quot;&gt;Christopher Winter&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;It seems a number of Russians did seek to collaborate with the Trump campaign in some fashion. Among them would be Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Kremlin-linked lawyer who met with Manafort, Kushner, and DT Jr. in Trump Tower in June 2016. &quot;

Collaborate, or simply provide instructions? Remember the baseline: There was/is compromat.  Collaboration was not necessary.  Trump is Putin&#039;s lap dog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/03/24/a-few-preliminary-thoughts-about-the-mueller-report-vis-a-vis-the-trump-crime-family-and-the-2020-election/#comment-739498">Christopher Winter</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;It seems a number of Russians did seek to collaborate with the Trump campaign in some fashion. Among them would be Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Kremlin-linked lawyer who met with Manafort, Kushner, and DT Jr. in Trump Tower in June 2016. &#8221;</p>
<p>Collaborate, or simply provide instructions? Remember the baseline: There was/is compromat.  Collaboration was not necessary.  Trump is Putin&#8217;s lap dog.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2019 20:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems Barr has said the public can see the report after White House officials edit it.

So -- no valid information, just a bunch of inserted lies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems Barr has said the public can see the report after White House officials edit it.</p>
<p>So &#8212; no valid information, just a bunch of inserted lies.</p>
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