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		By: Tyvor Winn		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-724536</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2019 02:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721859&quot;&gt;L.Long&lt;/a&gt;.

I am not a fan of phones at all and use one as little as possible so the robocalls are probably even more irritating to me than to most other people. One particular problem I have with them, besides the much repeated ringing is the way they use up the space on the answering machine with either silence or a very loud, obnoxious noise.  

Now that, apparently, many people don&#039;t answer the phone if they don&#039;t recognize the caller, the phone companies allow them to use an entire city as their identification or your own phone number, presumably out of curiosity in the latter case and knowing someone in that city in the former.

I&#039;ve long suspected that the phone companies are making money from all this nuisance calling.  No evidence, just the knowledge that money rules much of life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721859">L.Long</a>.</p>
<p>I am not a fan of phones at all and use one as little as possible so the robocalls are probably even more irritating to me than to most other people. One particular problem I have with them, besides the much repeated ringing is the way they use up the space on the answering machine with either silence or a very loud, obnoxious noise.  </p>
<p>Now that, apparently, many people don&#8217;t answer the phone if they don&#8217;t recognize the caller, the phone companies allow them to use an entire city as their identification or your own phone number, presumably out of curiosity in the latter case and knowing someone in that city in the former.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long suspected that the phone companies are making money from all this nuisance calling.  No evidence, just the knowledge that money rules much of life.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-723228</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2019 18:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-722651&quot;&gt;SteveP&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly. I get a fair number of calls from first time callers that are actually people that I need to talk to. I can&#039;t ignore those. But for me it is still not that many calls, compared to a business as described in the post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-722651">SteveP</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly. I get a fair number of calls from first time callers that are actually people that I need to talk to. I can&#8217;t ignore those. But for me it is still not that many calls, compared to a business as described in the post.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-723227</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2019 18:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721859&quot;&gt;L.Long&lt;/a&gt;.

None of those suggestions, which are widely known and practiced, have worked!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721859">L.Long</a>.</p>
<p>None of those suggestions, which are widely known and practiced, have worked!</p>
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		By: SteveP		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-722651</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2019 15:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A while back we had an instance where a  company that needed to reach us stupidly used a phone with an un-named-or  Wireless Caller ID. We ignored the calls until we realized that they were a legitimate caller.   Now we feel the need  to answer un-named callers just to ensure that important calls aren&#039;t getting  missed.   

A pox upon all industries that don&#039;t provide any  service to the public but instead  exist by parasitically wasting people&#039;s time looking for suckers to separate from their money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while back we had an instance where a  company that needed to reach us stupidly used a phone with an un-named-or  Wireless Caller ID. We ignored the calls until we realized that they were a legitimate caller.   Now we feel the need  to answer un-named callers just to ensure that important calls aren&#8217;t getting  missed.   </p>
<p>A pox upon all industries that don&#8217;t provide any  service to the public but instead  exist by parasitically wasting people&#8217;s time looking for suckers to separate from their money.</p>
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		By: L.Long		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721859</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2019 12:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To ban robo-calls is to ban all calls, but robo-calls are easily handled..use your caller ID if you don&#039;t see an ID then don&#039;t answer.  The phone companies can stop robo-calls fairly quickly....DON&#039;T give the robo-callers any special rates.  When I get a call from someone I don&#039;t know I keep them on line and put the phone down near the TV. When the phone speaker goes dead I hang it up.  Do that enough and they will go broke paying normal phone costs.  But this is no longer a usable policy as the phone companies do not charge the robo-callers the same as us normal people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To ban robo-calls is to ban all calls, but robo-calls are easily handled..use your caller ID if you don&#8217;t see an ID then don&#8217;t answer.  The phone companies can stop robo-calls fairly quickly&#8230;.DON&#8217;T give the robo-callers any special rates.  When I get a call from someone I don&#8217;t know I keep them on line and put the phone down near the TV. When the phone speaker goes dead I hang it up.  Do that enough and they will go broke paying normal phone costs.  But this is no longer a usable policy as the phone companies do not charge the robo-callers the same as us normal people.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721366</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2019 21:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721321&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

Dean, text, emails, etc are all great ways to communicate all of this as hoc situational information

Add to that well organized human phone tree, and we don&#039;t need no stinking robocalls.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721321">dean</a>.</p>
<p>Dean, text, emails, etc are all great ways to communicate all of this as hoc situational information</p>
<p>Add to that well organized human phone tree, and we don&#8217;t need no stinking robocalls.</p>
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		By: tc&#62;		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721341</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tc&#62;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2019 21:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You can ban robocalls if you like, but it will be nearly as effective as banning paying for sex:  It will only be news if an NFL owner robocalls you.  The existing bans on calling are victims of terrible enforcement, and allowing the survivors of robocalling to sue falls apart when you try to locate who called.  Robocalls will only end when they are no longer profitable, and the appropriate sentiment here may be &quot;there&#039;s a sucker born every minute.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can ban robocalls if you like, but it will be nearly as effective as banning paying for sex:  It will only be news if an NFL owner robocalls you.  The existing bans on calling are victims of terrible enforcement, and allowing the survivors of robocalling to sue falls apart when you try to locate who called.  Robocalls will only end when they are no longer profitable, and the appropriate sentiment here may be &#8220;there&#8217;s a sucker born every minute.&#8221;</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721331</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg:

I totally agree.

Worse - mine come on my cell phone (which I thought was illegal, unless not commercial).

Mostly credit card offers and scams.

I don&#039;t really know, because as soon as a computer starts talking, I hang up.

I support your plan 100%.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:</p>
<p>I totally agree.</p>
<p>Worse &#8211; mine come on my cell phone (which I thought was illegal, unless not commercial).</p>
<p>Mostly credit card offers and scams.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really know, because as soon as a computer starts talking, I hang up.</p>
<p>I support your plan 100%.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721321</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why couldn&#039;t school daily information be sent by mass text? That&#039;s done locally. In the rare case of an emergency calls go out, but closings, etc., can be received by text only if you opt in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why couldn&#8217;t school daily information be sent by mass text? That&#8217;s done locally. In the rare case of an emergency calls go out, but closings, etc., can be received by text only if you opt in.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721244</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2019 18:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721223&quot;&gt;Joe Shelby&lt;/a&gt;.

I get the same calls, and I feel similarly, but we&#039;ve been through this before. Robocalls were already made illegal or avoidable, but the legislation got written in such a way that the ban was a joke.  I am willing to jettison those good calls if they could all be gone, if necessary.

I&#039;m just worried that the legislation would be written in such a way that the robocalls would continue if there is any loophole. Or, that the robocalls we are getting are actually illegal but unstoppable. If we bad all the calls, it might be possible to use a technological fix. 

Here is an alternative solution that might sound crazy but that I&#039;m pretty sure would work.If we need to get critical info from school, let&#039;s buy 25$ cell phones that do only that. They would not use the standard subnetworks of cell phones, and would only be useful for communicating with the school. 

It seems crazy to take a technology (smart phones) that can in theory do everything we need them to do, then not use them for an entire category of important information because robocalls can&#039;t be stopped otherwise, but I&#039;m willing to do it just to force the issue.

By the way, I&#039;m not so sure those school call lists are not given to others. Are you certain of that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/02/26/end-robocalls/#comment-721223">Joe Shelby</a>.</p>
<p>I get the same calls, and I feel similarly, but we&#8217;ve been through this before. Robocalls were already made illegal or avoidable, but the legislation got written in such a way that the ban was a joke.  I am willing to jettison those good calls if they could all be gone, if necessary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just worried that the legislation would be written in such a way that the robocalls would continue if there is any loophole. Or, that the robocalls we are getting are actually illegal but unstoppable. If we bad all the calls, it might be possible to use a technological fix. </p>
<p>Here is an alternative solution that might sound crazy but that I&#8217;m pretty sure would work.If we need to get critical info from school, let&#8217;s buy 25$ cell phones that do only that. They would not use the standard subnetworks of cell phones, and would only be useful for communicating with the school. </p>
<p>It seems crazy to take a technology (smart phones) that can in theory do everything we need them to do, then not use them for an entire category of important information because robocalls can&#8217;t be stopped otherwise, but I&#8217;m willing to do it just to force the issue.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m not so sure those school call lists are not given to others. Are you certain of that?</p>
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