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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-704611</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2019 18:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-704581&quot;&gt;Christopher Winter&lt;/a&gt;.

No, but seriously somebody eventually let him back in.  But that is not a very good ending for a story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-704581">Christopher Winter</a>.</p>
<p>No, but seriously somebody eventually let him back in.  But that is not a very good ending for a story.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-704610</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2019 18:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-704581&quot;&gt;Christopher Winter&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, he froze to death, of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-704581">Christopher Winter</a>.</p>
<p>Well, he froze to death, of course.</p>
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		By: Christopher Winter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2019 16:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So what happened, Greg? Be Paul Harvey and tell us the rest of the story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what happened, Greg? Be Paul Harvey and tell us the rest of the story.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-704202</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 22:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The walkways in MN are not just an inside vs. outside thing. In the same places where there are all the skyways, there are vast outdoor courtyards and other things outside, and most of the restaurants hooked up by the skyways have an outdoor part.  

The problem is that on many days of the year, maybe a dozen in the summer and a few dozen in the winter, a normal person will be inclined to get their coat, hat, umbrella, warm hat, gloves, whaever, to go from their office in one of the skyscrapers to a place to grab lunch or do some other errand.  But with the skyways you just go in your shirttails. It creates a sense of, and reality of, a community, much like having a kitchen area embedded in a workplace, but much larger, with all the workplaces.  

It is only a little about having the ability to go outside and not die.

True story: My father, reasonably influential in the local city development and planning, visited Minneapolis and brought the idea back home, where one small skyway was built before everyone turned on the ida and the project was not further developed. So there is a sports arena hooked to a hotel, that&#039;s it.  But that&#039;s not the story.

When he was visiting Minneapolis, it was a conference, and he spent the whole day visiting places within the skyway system, going to parts of the conference, having lunch/dinner with people, etc. then, at the end of the day, he found himself exiting the skyway about five blocks from his hotel, but it was late at night, so he was locked out in 20 below weather without a coat.  There was nobody around to help or let him back in.

I&#039;m actually not sure how it works these days, if the skyways lock like that at some point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The walkways in MN are not just an inside vs. outside thing. In the same places where there are all the skyways, there are vast outdoor courtyards and other things outside, and most of the restaurants hooked up by the skyways have an outdoor part.  </p>
<p>The problem is that on many days of the year, maybe a dozen in the summer and a few dozen in the winter, a normal person will be inclined to get their coat, hat, umbrella, warm hat, gloves, whaever, to go from their office in one of the skyscrapers to a place to grab lunch or do some other errand.  But with the skyways you just go in your shirttails. It creates a sense of, and reality of, a community, much like having a kitchen area embedded in a workplace, but much larger, with all the workplaces.  </p>
<p>It is only a little about having the ability to go outside and not die.</p>
<p>True story: My father, reasonably influential in the local city development and planning, visited Minneapolis and brought the idea back home, where one small skyway was built before everyone turned on the ida and the project was not further developed. So there is a sports arena hooked to a hotel, that&#8217;s it.  But that&#8217;s not the story.</p>
<p>When he was visiting Minneapolis, it was a conference, and he spent the whole day visiting places within the skyway system, going to parts of the conference, having lunch/dinner with people, etc. then, at the end of the day, he found himself exiting the skyway about five blocks from his hotel, but it was late at night, so he was locked out in 20 below weather without a coat.  There was nobody around to help or let him back in.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually not sure how it works these days, if the skyways lock like that at some point.</p>
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		By: Christopher Winter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-704064</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 17:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see. But you did put a smiley at the end of your comment, so I think my gibe was not completely unwarranted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see. But you did put a smiley at the end of your comment, so I think my gibe was not completely unwarranted.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 15:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-703753&quot;&gt;Christopher Winter&lt;/a&gt;.

Hardly. I was a bit too extreme -- one in GR has a walkway between its building and parking ramp, but nothing more extensive.

Not where I am, however, and I simply prefer to be outside as much and as often as I can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-703753">Christopher Winter</a>.</p>
<p>Hardly. I was a bit too extreme &#8212; one in GR has a walkway between its building and parking ramp, but nothing more extensive.</p>
<p>Not where I am, however, and I simply prefer to be outside as much and as often as I can.</p>
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		By: Christopher Winter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-703753</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 03:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Because you&#039;re too tough to need them?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because you&#8217;re too tough to need them?</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-702723</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-702708&quot;&gt;Christopher Winter&lt;/a&gt;.

We don&#039;t have those walkways here in Michigan. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-702708">Christopher Winter</a>.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have those walkways here in Michigan. 🙂</p>
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		By: Christopher Winter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I certainly sympathize with you folks up there in the &quot;frozenorth.&quot; I&#039;m sure the second-story enclosed walkways in downtown MPLS will be much appreciated during this time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly sympathize with you folks up there in the &#8220;frozenorth.&#8221; I&#8217;m sure the second-story enclosed walkways in downtown MPLS will be much appreciated during this time.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2019/01/29/go-home-arctic-youre-drunk-2/#comment-702653</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 17:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re currently at -12F, with windchills (at 1pm) of -38. I was out for a short bit, but even with my usual cold weather stuff that typically keeps me warm while moving it didn&#039;t take long to feel it. It&#039;s certainly not weather to take casually. (But it was beautiful, with the crisp air and light on new snow.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re currently at -12F, with windchills (at 1pm) of -38. I was out for a short bit, but even with my usual cold weather stuff that typically keeps me warm while moving it didn&#8217;t take long to feel it. It&#8217;s certainly not weather to take casually. (But it was beautiful, with the crisp air and light on new snow.)</p>
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