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		By: Christopher Winter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-684306</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Winter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 03:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Coca-Cola introduced the marketing slogan &quot;The pause that refreshes&quot; eighty years ago.

https://thehumanfactor.biz/the-pause-that-refreshes/

Greg&#039;s use of it here, sarcastically, invites additional sarcasm.

&quot;Things don&#039;t go better with Koch.&quot;

&quot;I&#039;d like to teach the world to think, about reality...&quot;

Or &#8212; is it sarcasm?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coca-Cola introduced the marketing slogan &#8220;The pause that refreshes&#8221; eighty years ago.</p>
<p><a href="https://thehumanfactor.biz/the-pause-that-refreshes/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thehumanfactor.biz/the-pause-that-refreshes/</a></p>
<p>Greg&#8217;s use of it here, sarcastically, invites additional sarcasm.</p>
<p>&#8220;Things don&#8217;t go better with Koch.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d like to teach the world to think, about reality&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Or &mdash; is it sarcasm?</p>
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		By: Lionel A		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-684194</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lionel A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2018 22:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And then there is this, one well up Jeff&#039;s street and he is probably well aware of.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Policymakers have severely underestimated the risks of ecological tipping points, according to a study that shows 45% of all potential environmental collapses are interrelated and could amplify one another.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a&gt;Risks of &#039;domino effect&#039; of tipping points greater than thought, study says&lt;/a&gt;

I wonder what Crockford would say about that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then there is this, one well up Jeff&#8217;s street and he is probably well aware of.</p>
<blockquote><p>Policymakers have severely underestimated the risks of ecological tipping points, according to a study that shows 45% of all potential environmental collapses are interrelated and could amplify one another.</p></blockquote>
<p><a>Risks of &#8216;domino effect&#8217; of tipping points greater than thought, study says</a></p>
<p>I wonder what Crockford would say about that?</p>
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		By: Jeff H		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-684136</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2018 19:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Li D, Indeed, I am that person. Thanks for the support. I was gratified recently when the world’s leading active polar bear reseaercher, Andrew Derocher, called ours, ‘the best polar bear paper of 2018’. Given the unfolding calamity emerging in the Arctic (read the latest NOAA report card for the region) we felt that the topic was vitally important and timely.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Li D, Indeed, I am that person. Thanks for the support. I was gratified recently when the world’s leading active polar bear reseaercher, Andrew Derocher, called ours, ‘the best polar bear paper of 2018’. Given the unfolding calamity emerging in the Arctic (read the latest NOAA report card for the region) we felt that the topic was vitally important and timely.</p>
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		By: BBD		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-684102</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BBD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2018 16:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-683743&quot;&gt;Lionel A&lt;/a&gt;.

Indeed we did. So all the way back down to, um... 1C above preindustrial is okay, then... 

And somehow &#039;evidence&#039; that ECS is 1.8C even though a &lt;i&gt;transient&lt;/i&gt; response of 1C to +120ppm CO2 rules this out...

So the next denialist gambit is that half the warming is teh magick invizible forcingz of Naturez...

Utterly undetectable by any available technology but enough to add at least 0.5C to GAT...

But somehow not falsify the claim that ECS to a doubling of CO2 &lt;i&gt;or equivalent forcing change&lt;/i&gt;...

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-683743">Lionel A</a>.</p>
<p>Indeed we did. So all the way back down to, um&#8230; 1C above preindustrial is okay, then&#8230; </p>
<p>And somehow &#8216;evidence&#8217; that ECS is 1.8C even though a <i>transient</i> response of 1C to +120ppm CO2 rules this out&#8230;</p>
<p>So the next denialist gambit is that half the warming is teh magick invizible forcingz of Naturez&#8230;</p>
<p>Utterly undetectable by any available technology but enough to add at least 0.5C to GAT&#8230;</p>
<p>But somehow not falsify the claim that ECS to a doubling of CO2 <i>or equivalent forcing change</i>&#8230;</p>
<p>🙂</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-684099</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2018 16:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-683743&quot;&gt;Lionel A&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Well we have seen just that here from you know who recently.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To be fair, we see the same behavior from that person on any issue, from science to rights for women and minorities to health, etc. He&#039;s an equal opportunity liar and denier (his lack of ethics comes into play as well).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-683743">Lionel A</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Well we have seen just that here from you know who recently.</p></blockquote>
<p>To be fair, we see the same behavior from that person on any issue, from science to rights for women and minorities to health, etc. He&#8217;s an equal opportunity liar and denier (his lack of ethics comes into play as well).</p>
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		By: Lionel A		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-684097</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lionel A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2018 16:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve just read a spray on you and others on that rather nutty polar bear site, &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, you mean Crockford&#039;s crock of a site.  She tends to rant and cast aspersions in a manner we have seen elsewhere from such as What the f&#039;s Up With That, (not so much) Climate Etc, and ClimateFraudit.  That is the problem when you are an outlier and wrong into the bargain being too far up your creek and lost your paddle for rowing back.

The wider Inuit picture:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Inuit polar bear subsistence hunters from two East Greenland regions, Tasiilaq and Ittoqqortoormiit, report changes to their hunting patterns as well as polar bear distribution and behavior due to decreasing sea ice and the introduction of hunting quotas in 2006. The hunters have observed large climate changes in their hunting areas -- including warmer weather, less sea ice and disappearing glaciers -- which the majority say have affected the polar bear hunt. More hunters are now using boats than dog sledges due to loss of sea ice. The hunters also note that more polar bears are coming into their communities looking for food, and that the bears are eating more seal parts than previously. Published in Frontiers in Marine Science, the study is the first in nearly 20 years to document traditional knowledge on polar bear catches and ecology in East Greenland -- providing a valuable baseline for monitoring future changes as well as the polar bear population.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180515131538.htm


&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.desmogblog.com/susan-crockford&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Susan Crockford&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ve just read a spray on you and others on that rather nutty polar bear site, </p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, you mean Crockford&#8217;s crock of a site.  She tends to rant and cast aspersions in a manner we have seen elsewhere from such as What the f&#8217;s Up With That, (not so much) Climate Etc, and ClimateFraudit.  That is the problem when you are an outlier and wrong into the bargain being too far up your creek and lost your paddle for rowing back.</p>
<p>The wider Inuit picture:</p>
<blockquote><p>Inuit polar bear subsistence hunters from two East Greenland regions, Tasiilaq and Ittoqqortoormiit, report changes to their hunting patterns as well as polar bear distribution and behavior due to decreasing sea ice and the introduction of hunting quotas in 2006. The hunters have observed large climate changes in their hunting areas &#8212; including warmer weather, less sea ice and disappearing glaciers &#8212; which the majority say have affected the polar bear hunt. More hunters are now using boats than dog sledges due to loss of sea ice. The hunters also note that more polar bears are coming into their communities looking for food, and that the bears are eating more seal parts than previously. Published in Frontiers in Marine Science, the study is the first in nearly 20 years to document traditional knowledge on polar bear catches and ecology in East Greenland &#8212; providing a valuable baseline for monitoring future changes as well as the polar bear population.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180515131538.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180515131538.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.desmogblog.com/susan-crockford" rel="nofollow">Susan Crockford</a></p>
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		By: Li D		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-684060</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Li D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2018 13:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-683683&quot;&gt;Jeff H&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey if you be who I think you be
I&#039;ve just read a spray on you and others  on  that rather nutty polar bear site, from earlier this year, whilst doing some reading on the internet about the Serengeti strategy. I read  your old piece on the subject too Greg, in scienceblogs. Very good.

https://polarbearscience.com/tag/serengeti-strategy/

Personal thanks for your work if you are that person Jeff.
I miss reading  Deltoid openthread  a little bit. It was perky. Robust! Funny as anything in terms of invented abuse terms. Ocassionly it read like a radio play. 
Li D
Australia.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-683683">Jeff H</a>.</p>
<p>Hey if you be who I think you be<br />
I&#8217;ve just read a spray on you and others  on  that rather nutty polar bear site, from earlier this year, whilst doing some reading on the internet about the Serengeti strategy. I read  your old piece on the subject too Greg, in scienceblogs. Very good.</p>
<p><a href="https://polarbearscience.com/tag/serengeti-strategy/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://polarbearscience.com/tag/serengeti-strategy/</a></p>
<p>Personal thanks for your work if you are that person Jeff.<br />
I miss reading  Deltoid openthread  a little bit. It was perky. Robust! Funny as anything in terms of invented abuse terms. Ocassionly it read like a radio play.<br />
Li D<br />
Australia.</p>
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		By: First Brown MSP Christmas Since 2015? Snow Chances Increase 1 Week Out - Paul Douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[First Brown MSP Christmas Since 2015? Snow Chances Increase 1 Week Out - Paul Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2018 05:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] when it comes to warming across the planet. No, the warming hasn&#8217;t &#8220;paused&#8221;. Greg Laden has a good explainer in his blog: &#8220;&#8230;Here, I’ve plotted one of the widely used data [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] when it comes to warming across the planet. No, the warming hasn&#8217;t &#8220;paused&#8221;. Greg Laden has a good explainer in his blog: &#8220;&#8230;Here, I’ve plotted one of the widely used data [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Lionel A		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/12/19/the-pause-that-refreshes/#comment-683743</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lionel A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2018 20:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;At that point the ignoranti will claim that the record warmth is simply the result of El Nino, ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well we have seen just that here from you know who recently.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At that point the ignoranti will claim that the record warmth is simply the result of El Nino, &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Well we have seen just that here from you know who recently.</p>
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		By: Lionel A		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lionel A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2018 20:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The UK Met&#039; Office paper, in three parts., is still a useful source:

&lt;a&gt;The recent pause in warming&lt;/a&gt;

as is their paper on the storms which hit the UK later that year and in early 2014

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/news/2014/uk-storms-and-floods&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A global perspective on the recent storms and floods in the UK&lt;/a&gt;

If only the RickAs of the world would study and learn.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UK Met&#8217; Office paper, in three parts., is still a useful source:</p>
<p><a>The recent pause in warming</a></p>
<p>as is their paper on the storms which hit the UK later that year and in early 2014</p>
<p><a href="https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/news/2014/uk-storms-and-floods" rel="nofollow">A global perspective on the recent storms and floods in the UK</a></p>
<p>If only the RickAs of the world would study and learn.</p>
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