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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-620126</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2018 00:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-619305&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

Google would have to know who I am before I&#039;d worry about that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-619305">MikeN</a>.</p>
<p>Google would have to know who I am before I&#8217;d worry about that.</p>
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		By: BBD		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-620120</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BBD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2018 23:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-619305&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes but Cambridge Analytica. 

A different kind of weasel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-619305">MikeN</a>.</p>
<p>Yes but Cambridge Analytica. </p>
<p>A different kind of weasel.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-620080</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2018 20:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know what Google collects mikeN. I also know they don&#039;t sell it and that you can delete it, and that you can change settings to stop the collection (at the expense of sacrificing functionality of several apps). Apple also collects data, although whether it is as much as Google I don&#039;t know. Several years ago Apple tried to enter the data market and their attempted didn&#039;t work out -- in essence, their data security stuff is the result of one of their rare marketing failures more than anything else. 

Your concern about data, if it is sincere, should be aimed at other targets -- perhaps they are in your aim too: I don&#039;t know because you haven&#039;t mentioned it if they are. Your isp and phone carrier collect virtually everything you do (location too, as phones constantly triangulate off the 3 nearest cell towers) and it is far more than a fair bet that the sell it to every bidder that comes along. You should also be concerned about the growth in data collection by the government* -- started with the terribly named Patriot Act, the amount of which has at the least been left alone and often increased since it started. 

I don&#039;t know whether you use the little keyring scan cards grocery and other stores offer -- if so, your data is everywhere now: those cards are tied to your identity. 

It only take about 12 good pieces of data to identify you -- fewer if location data is included. Unless you&#039;ve never used any of the electronic devices that have been prevalent for over a decade, it&#039;s too late to worry about it now. That&#039;s not conspiracy mongering: people are right to be concerned. It is wrong to think or imply, Google is involved in selling what they collect: it&#039;s more valuable to them directly. 

* Far short of having any statistical significance, but: I know four people who teach computer security at universities or work in it doing research. All of them have told me that because US border agents have been giving them so much hassle when they leave or come into the country (computers/phones are taken for examination while they wait and returned after different amounts of time)  that they&#039;ve started wiping their computers and phones clean before they travel. Nothing but bare stuff on them -- they ca access what they need after they are at their destination. That&#039;s the stuff to be worried about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what Google collects mikeN. I also know they don&#8217;t sell it and that you can delete it, and that you can change settings to stop the collection (at the expense of sacrificing functionality of several apps). Apple also collects data, although whether it is as much as Google I don&#8217;t know. Several years ago Apple tried to enter the data market and their attempted didn&#8217;t work out &#8212; in essence, their data security stuff is the result of one of their rare marketing failures more than anything else. </p>
<p>Your concern about data, if it is sincere, should be aimed at other targets &#8212; perhaps they are in your aim too: I don&#8217;t know because you haven&#8217;t mentioned it if they are. Your isp and phone carrier collect virtually everything you do (location too, as phones constantly triangulate off the 3 nearest cell towers) and it is far more than a fair bet that the sell it to every bidder that comes along. You should also be concerned about the growth in data collection by the government* &#8212; started with the terribly named Patriot Act, the amount of which has at the least been left alone and often increased since it started. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether you use the little keyring scan cards grocery and other stores offer &#8212; if so, your data is everywhere now: those cards are tied to your identity. </p>
<p>It only take about 12 good pieces of data to identify you &#8212; fewer if location data is included. Unless you&#8217;ve never used any of the electronic devices that have been prevalent for over a decade, it&#8217;s too late to worry about it now. That&#8217;s not conspiracy mongering: people are right to be concerned. It is wrong to think or imply, Google is involved in selling what they collect: it&#8217;s more valuable to them directly. </p>
<p>* Far short of having any statistical significance, but: I know four people who teach computer security at universities or work in it doing research. All of them have told me that because US border agents have been giving them so much hassle when they leave or come into the country (computers/phones are taken for examination while they wait and returned after different amounts of time)  that they&#8217;ve started wiping their computers and phones clean before they travel. Nothing but bare stuff on them &#8212; they ca access what they need after they are at their destination. That&#8217;s the stuff to be worried about.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-620016</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2018 16:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-619305&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

Take a look at what google has on you.  Not sure if Iphone does the same.
https://myactivity.google.com/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-619305">MikeN</a>.</p>
<p>Take a look at what google has on you.  Not sure if Iphone does the same.<br />
<a href="https://myactivity.google.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://myactivity.google.com/</a></p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-619347</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2018 19:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-619305&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Letting Google keep your browsing habits on file is probably not a good idea.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not as as bad as unjustified paranoia.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-619305">MikeN</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Letting Google keep your browsing habits on file is probably not a good idea.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not as as bad as unjustified paranoia.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-619305</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2018 18:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do not update to the new Chrome ever!

Fixed the headline for you.  Letting Google keep your browsing habits on file is probably not a good idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not update to the new Chrome ever!</p>
<p>Fixed the headline for you.  Letting Google keep your browsing habits on file is probably not a good idea.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-619280</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2018 17:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;My biggest concern is that there are URLs I must visit now and then that Google habitually sees as insecure &lt;/blockquote&gt;

A big part of that is flagging as insecure sites that still use http rather than https. Eventually the plan is to make it more difficult to access http using sites.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My biggest concern is that there are URLs I must visit now and then that Google habitually sees as insecure </p></blockquote>
<p>A big part of that is flagging as insecure sites that still use http rather than https. Eventually the plan is to make it more difficult to access http using sites.</p>
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		By: Paul Hutchinson		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/09/06/do-not-upgrade-to-the-new-chrome-yet/#comment-619253</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Hutchinson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2018 16:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AFAIK it&#039;s only the Google developers (they always have specified the version number) and media (I think they like the sexual reference) calling it Chrome 69. Google marketing doesn&#039;t bother mentioning the version as it is irrelevant to normal users.
https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/chromes-turning-10-heres-whats-new/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFAIK it&#8217;s only the Google developers (they always have specified the version number) and media (I think they like the sexual reference) calling it Chrome 69. Google marketing doesn&#8217;t bother mentioning the version as it is irrelevant to normal users.<br />
<a href="https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/chromes-turning-10-heres-whats-new/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/chromes-turning-10-heres-whats-new/</a></p>
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