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		By: BBD		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601247</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BBD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601243&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

Hence the popularity of the Gish Canter. It keeps the bollocks in play forever :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601243">dean</a>.</p>
<p>Hence the popularity of the Gish Canter. It keeps the bollocks in play forever 🙂</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;It’s wordy, but clearly incomplete, as there is no mention of Kazakhstan.&quot;

We can only point out the crap in one foolish conspiracy at a time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s wordy, but clearly incomplete, as there is no mention of Kazakhstan.&#8221;</p>
<p>We can only point out the crap in one foolish conspiracy at a time.</p>
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		By: BBD		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601233</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BBD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 19:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601180&quot;&gt;BillyR&lt;/a&gt;.

Yawn.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601180">BillyR</a>.</p>
<p>Yawn.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 19:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601180&quot;&gt;BillyR&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s wordy, but clearly incomplete, as there is no mention of Kazakhstan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601180">BillyR</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s wordy, but clearly incomplete, as there is no mention of Kazakhstan.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 18:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601180&quot;&gt;BillyR&lt;/a&gt;.

I think you were dazzled by the Times&#039; writers use of big words and things generally known as complete sentences, two things that don&#039;t appear in the shit sites you seem to frequent. 

Guistra (who had donated to the Clintons) sold UrAsia to Uranium Ore in 2007. He also got rid of all of his stock. Other (previous) shareholders kept 
over 50 percent of the stock (I want to say it was as high as 60 percent or possibly more). At the time the company owned about 20 percent of the 
physical production capacity (mines, mills, etc), although its percentage of uranium production was lower, never approaching 20 percent of the 
supply in the US. Further, the uranium they did produce was low quality -- low enough to be below weapon quality. Much of the company&#039;s 
capacity was idle. 

Try to keep up.

&#062; 2009: Rosatom (Russian company) bought a little less than 20 percent of the shares of the company
&#062; 2010: Rosatom tried to buy more to get to 51 percent of stock share. Disturbing yes, but Russia did not have a license to 
move uranium out of the country, so they couldn&#039;t simply move it out because they ``owned it&#039;&#039;, but
&#062; The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CIFUS) had to approve the deal, as did two other regulatory agencies
&#062; Members of CIFUS: State Department, attorney general, secretaries of Treasury, Defense, Commerce, Energy and Homeland Security, (the head of) the Office of U.S. Trade Representative, and the Office of Science and Technology Policy

None of these people (HRC in particular, since your fake conspiracy centers on her) had veto power over the activity. 

CIFUS approved the deal, and by 2013 Russia had 100 percent ownership and changed the company name to Uranium One Holding.

So no conspiracy.

The fake $145 million from the company? Nine people from the company did donate to Clinton: most of the money was from Giustra, but he sold his
stake in the company before (a year and a half before) she became Secretary of State. The money was not from the company in exchange for her 
approval: thinking it was is stupid for many reasons (which is, no doubt, its appeal to you), the two largest being that it doesn&#039;t fit the timeline AND
the fact she had no controlling influence for or against  the deal simply by being in CIFUS -- no individual had that much power. 

So

* The time line for your masturbatory theory is crap
* HRC did not have the power to approve or stop the sale of the company
* Russia isn&#039;t allowed to export uranium

There was a net exchange of some uranium: a subsidiary of Rosatom was allowed to sell commercial uranium to nuclear power plants
in the U.S. (something that had been going on with Russian uranium since the 1990s, when stuff reprocessed from decommissioned Soviet
weapons was purchased by the U.S. to keep it from going into the worldwide black market)

So no, the fact they have a story about a conspiracy doesn&#039;t mean there is any truth to it, but then things that aren&#039;t true seem to be the only things you buy into.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601180">BillyR</a>.</p>
<p>I think you were dazzled by the Times&#8217; writers use of big words and things generally known as complete sentences, two things that don&#8217;t appear in the shit sites you seem to frequent. </p>
<p>Guistra (who had donated to the Clintons) sold UrAsia to Uranium Ore in 2007. He also got rid of all of his stock. Other (previous) shareholders kept<br />
over 50 percent of the stock (I want to say it was as high as 60 percent or possibly more). At the time the company owned about 20 percent of the<br />
physical production capacity (mines, mills, etc), although its percentage of uranium production was lower, never approaching 20 percent of the<br />
supply in the US. Further, the uranium they did produce was low quality &#8212; low enough to be below weapon quality. Much of the company&#8217;s<br />
capacity was idle. </p>
<p>Try to keep up.</p>
<p>&gt; 2009: Rosatom (Russian company) bought a little less than 20 percent of the shares of the company<br />
&gt; 2010: Rosatom tried to buy more to get to 51 percent of stock share. Disturbing yes, but Russia did not have a license to<br />
move uranium out of the country, so they couldn&#8217;t simply move it out because they &#8220;owned it&#8221;, but<br />
&gt; The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CIFUS) had to approve the deal, as did two other regulatory agencies<br />
&gt; Members of CIFUS: State Department, attorney general, secretaries of Treasury, Defense, Commerce, Energy and Homeland Security, (the head of) the Office of U.S. Trade Representative, and the Office of Science and Technology Policy</p>
<p>None of these people (HRC in particular, since your fake conspiracy centers on her) had veto power over the activity. </p>
<p>CIFUS approved the deal, and by 2013 Russia had 100 percent ownership and changed the company name to Uranium One Holding.</p>
<p>So no conspiracy.</p>
<p>The fake $145 million from the company? Nine people from the company did donate to Clinton: most of the money was from Giustra, but he sold his<br />
stake in the company before (a year and a half before) she became Secretary of State. The money was not from the company in exchange for her<br />
approval: thinking it was is stupid for many reasons (which is, no doubt, its appeal to you), the two largest being that it doesn&#8217;t fit the timeline AND<br />
the fact she had no controlling influence for or against  the deal simply by being in CIFUS &#8212; no individual had that much power. </p>
<p>So</p>
<p>* The time line for your masturbatory theory is crap<br />
* HRC did not have the power to approve or stop the sale of the company<br />
* Russia isn&#8217;t allowed to export uranium</p>
<p>There was a net exchange of some uranium: a subsidiary of Rosatom was allowed to sell commercial uranium to nuclear power plants<br />
in the U.S. (something that had been going on with Russian uranium since the 1990s, when stuff reprocessed from decommissioned Soviet<br />
weapons was purchased by the U.S. to keep it from going into the worldwide black market)</p>
<p>So no, the fact they have a story about a conspiracy doesn&#8217;t mean there is any truth to it, but then things that aren&#8217;t true seem to be the only things you buy into.</p>
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		By: BBD		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601194</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BBD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601109&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I am glad, BBD, that you place your trust in politicized government organs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All the US intelligence community is engaged in a political conspiracy against Trump?
 
Conspiracy theory crap, Billy boy. And you can stuff it up your arse, alongside the long-debunked rubbish about uranium which even I - a Brit - know to be bollocks. 

Here IRL, you have a problem. The Russians hacked US Democracy and Trump ended up in the White House. Trump who has shat over pretty much every other world leader but has nothing but kind words for Vlad. Trump who was hooked into dirty Russian money since the 80s. Trump who almost certainly colluded with the Russians to &#039;get dirt on Hillary&#039;. 

Treason is in the air, Billy. And you are cheering it along. So do me a favour: never refer to yourself as a Constitutionalist in my virtual presence again. 

You have betrayed the Constitution in both letter and spirit and you know it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601109">dean</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>I am glad, BBD, that you place your trust in politicized government organs.</p></blockquote>
<p>All the US intelligence community is engaged in a political conspiracy against Trump?</p>
<p>Conspiracy theory crap, Billy boy. And you can stuff it up your arse, alongside the long-debunked rubbish about uranium which even I &#8211; a Brit &#8211; know to be bollocks. </p>
<p>Here IRL, you have a problem. The Russians hacked US Democracy and Trump ended up in the White House. Trump who has shat over pretty much every other world leader but has nothing but kind words for Vlad. Trump who was hooked into dirty Russian money since the 80s. Trump who almost certainly colluded with the Russians to &#8216;get dirt on Hillary&#8217;. </p>
<p>Treason is in the air, Billy. And you are cheering it along. So do me a favour: never refer to yourself as a Constitutionalist in my virtual presence again. </p>
<p>You have betrayed the Constitution in both letter and spirit and you know it.</p>
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		By: BillyR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BillyR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 15:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;You really are stupid.&quot;  Yes, I am and all posters
know this as fact.  So stop being so redundant. 

&quot;I removed the periods to kill them as live links.&quot;

K9dean, I have never seen that before!  Very clever:
you do not mind if I duplicate it?

&quot;The rest of your post is pure bullshit.&quot;

Dismissive and especially since it came from the NY Slime.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You really are stupid.&#8221;  Yes, I am and all posters<br />
know this as fact.  So stop being so redundant. </p>
<p>&#8220;I removed the periods to kill them as live links.&#8221;</p>
<p>K9dean, I have never seen that before!  Very clever:<br />
you do not mind if I duplicate it?</p>
<p>&#8220;The rest of your post is pure bullshit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dismissive and especially since it came from the NY Slime.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601158</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 13:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601147&quot;&gt;BillyR&lt;/a&gt;.

You really are stupid. I removed the periods to kill them as live links. Where you see DOT put in a period.

The rest of your post is pure bullshit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601147">BillyR</a>.</p>
<p>You really are stupid. I removed the periods to kill them as live links. Where you see DOT put in a period.</p>
<p>The rest of your post is pure bullshit.</p>
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		By: BillyR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BillyR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;You are confusing Republicans with the intelligence community. So you get fake news.&quot;

I am glad, BBD, that you place your trust in politicized government organs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

&quot;The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.&quot;

&quot;At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.&quot;

&quot;Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.&quot;

&quot;As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.&quot;

CASH CLINTON RUSSIAN COLLUDING.

&quot;And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.&quot;

In this deal both Rot-ham and BO sign off on it.  Both COLLUDED with
Putin&#039;s Red Russia.

K9 dean, none of your three links worked!?  Did the FSB hack this
website?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You are confusing Republicans with the intelligence community. So you get fake news.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am glad, BBD, that you place your trust in politicized government organs.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>CASH CLINTON RUSSIAN COLLUDING.</p>
<p>&#8220;And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.&#8221;</p>
<p>In this deal both Rot-ham and BO sign off on it.  Both COLLUDED with<br />
Putin&#8217;s Red Russia.</p>
<p>K9 dean, none of your three links worked!?  Did the FSB hack this<br />
website?</p>
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		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601112</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BBD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 00:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601103&quot;&gt;BillyR&lt;/a&gt;.

So, the &#039;Constitutionalist&#039; continues to deny the combined testimony of all major US intelligence agencies that American democracy was attacked. 

That&#039;s either treason, old chap, or denialism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/07/25/is-this-how-trump-gets-taken-down-emoluments/#comment-601103">BillyR</a>.</p>
<p>So, the &#8216;Constitutionalist&#8217; continues to deny the combined testimony of all major US intelligence agencies that American democracy was attacked. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s either treason, old chap, or denialism.</p>
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