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		By: Locus		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-589268</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Locus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2018 07:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lionel,

&quot;Still waiting for you to read the literature so that you will understand why your point is so crass given that the Palestinians are not exactly in a position to implement such a policy.&quot;

What ????????

I asked about security checkpoints at the entrances to mosques.  Nothing spectacular like cameras and face-recognition software.  Just the basic security available at any pop concert venue.

And you claim the Palestinians can&#039;t handle that?  Why not?  Why are you so contemptuous of their abilities?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lionel,</p>
<p>&#8220;Still waiting for you to read the literature so that you will understand why your point is so crass given that the Palestinians are not exactly in a position to implement such a policy.&#8221;</p>
<p>What ????????</p>
<p>I asked about security checkpoints at the entrances to mosques.  Nothing spectacular like cameras and face-recognition software.  Just the basic security available at any pop concert venue.</p>
<p>And you claim the Palestinians can&#8217;t handle that?  Why not?  Why are you so contemptuous of their abilities?</p>
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		By: Locus		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-589233</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Locus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2018 05:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-589055&quot;&gt;Lionel A&lt;/a&gt;.

Well  congratulations Lionel,  you&#039;ve managed to climb the Mt Everest of Stupid and plant your flag.

According to Lionel&#039;s latest barrel of crap, only his first sentence applies in his responses.  If you suggest therefore that his second sentence has any relation to the question being asked then that makes you bad, dishonest person.

That&#039;s the kind of pretzel logic you get out when someone is desperately trying to slither their way of a jam.

What has you so scared?  Did you finally realize that you&#039;re morally repugnant?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-589055">Lionel A</a>.</p>
<p>Well  congratulations Lionel,  you&#8217;ve managed to climb the Mt Everest of Stupid and plant your flag.</p>
<p>According to Lionel&#8217;s latest barrel of crap, only his first sentence applies in his responses.  If you suggest therefore that his second sentence has any relation to the question being asked then that makes you bad, dishonest person.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the kind of pretzel logic you get out when someone is desperately trying to slither their way of a jam.</p>
<p>What has you so scared?  Did you finally realize that you&#8217;re morally repugnant?</p>
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		By: Lionel A		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-589055</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lionel A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 14:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;You’re the one who brought up the Liberty in the first place !!!! 
Please stop lying.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
OK Let’s deal with this nonsense once and for all.

My first mention here of the Liberty massacre, for that is what it was, was on May 18, 2018 at 11:07 am  where the pertinent parts are:

&lt;blockquote&gt;No threat from this direction was there.
Then there was the USS Liberty.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As we see the mention of the USS Liberty is in its own paragraph thus implying no direct connection.  Although it is a part of the whole narrative that can be assembled from recorded facts of Israel’s lack of respect for life and international law for over half a century now.

You Locus then start wittering on about what connection this has to decapitating babies and other similar nonsense.  The link that preceded the Liberty mention was to a shooting massacre by a ‘rogue’ Israeli fanatic who gunned down many Palestinians as seen at that link: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;On February 25, 1994, that year&#039;s Purim day, Goldstein entered a room in the Cave of the Patriarchs that was serving as a mosque, wearing &quot;his army uniform with the insignia of rank, creating the image of a reserve officer on active duty&quot;.[19] He then opened fire, killing 29 worshippers and wounding more than 125.[20] Mosque guard Mohammad Suleiman Abu Saleh said he thought that Goldstein was trying to kill as many people as possible, and described how there were &quot;bodies and blood everywhere&quot;.[21] Eventually, Goldstein was overcome and beaten to death by survivors of the massacre.&lt;/blockquote&gt;,

no mention of knives or babies there.

However it is illustrative of the imbalance of power between the two peoples that, from the same source:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Palestinian protests and riots immediately followed the shooting; in the following week, 25 Palestinians were killed (by the Israel Defense Forces), as well as five Israelis.[6] Following the riots, the Israeli government imposed a two-week curfew on the 120,000 Palestinian residents of Hebron, as the 400 Jewish settlers of H2 were free to move around ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;


I don’t know what it is that you are on that causes you to fantasise but I suggest that you take less of it.

It can be clearly seen who is lying, if you wish to discover who that is look in the mirror.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You’re the one who brought up the Liberty in the first place !!!!<br />
Please stop lying.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK Let’s deal with this nonsense once and for all.</p>
<p>My first mention here of the Liberty massacre, for that is what it was, was on May 18, 2018 at 11:07 am  where the pertinent parts are:</p>
<blockquote><p>No threat from this direction was there.<br />
Then there was the USS Liberty.</p></blockquote>
<p>As we see the mention of the USS Liberty is in its own paragraph thus implying no direct connection.  Although it is a part of the whole narrative that can be assembled from recorded facts of Israel’s lack of respect for life and international law for over half a century now.</p>
<p>You Locus then start wittering on about what connection this has to decapitating babies and other similar nonsense.  The link that preceded the Liberty mention was to a shooting massacre by a ‘rogue’ Israeli fanatic who gunned down many Palestinians as seen at that link: </p>
<blockquote><p>On February 25, 1994, that year&#8217;s Purim day, Goldstein entered a room in the Cave of the Patriarchs that was serving as a mosque, wearing &#8220;his army uniform with the insignia of rank, creating the image of a reserve officer on active duty&#8221;.[19] He then opened fire, killing 29 worshippers and wounding more than 125.[20] Mosque guard Mohammad Suleiman Abu Saleh said he thought that Goldstein was trying to kill as many people as possible, and described how there were &#8220;bodies and blood everywhere&#8221;.[21] Eventually, Goldstein was overcome and beaten to death by survivors of the massacre.</p></blockquote>
<p>,</p>
<p>no mention of knives or babies there.</p>
<p>However it is illustrative of the imbalance of power between the two peoples that, from the same source:</p>
<blockquote><p>Palestinian protests and riots immediately followed the shooting; in the following week, 25 Palestinians were killed (by the Israel Defense Forces), as well as five Israelis.[6] Following the riots, the Israeli government imposed a two-week curfew on the 120,000 Palestinian residents of Hebron, as the 400 Jewish settlers of H2 were free to move around &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>I don’t know what it is that you are on that causes you to fantasise but I suggest that you take less of it.</p>
<p>It can be clearly seen who is lying, if you wish to discover who that is look in the mirror.</p>
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		By: Bernard J.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-588896</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 04:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a bottom line to the appalling treatment of Palestinians by Israel.

Despite their best efforts to emulate the genocidal atrocities of their former Nazi oppressors, the Israelis will not be able to exterminate the Palestinians.  And every Israeli atrocity against Palestinians, and every US aiding and abetting of the same, will be remembered by the Palestinians and their allies...

One day Israel will lose its advantage of power.  Whether through global lack of preparation to oil shortage, and/or through the ravages of a warming climate, and/or as a consequence of geopolitical and/or economic turmoil, and/or because Russian (or other) nukes end up smuggled inside the country, something will give and Israel will not be able to resist the swelling tide of enmity that it has manufactured over the last three-quarters of a century.

And then all that memory, all that grievance, all that hurt and desperation and anger and frustration will wash over the country and no one, not Jew nor Christian nor Muslim, will be the better for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a bottom line to the appalling treatment of Palestinians by Israel.</p>
<p>Despite their best efforts to emulate the genocidal atrocities of their former Nazi oppressors, the Israelis will not be able to exterminate the Palestinians.  And every Israeli atrocity against Palestinians, and every US aiding and abetting of the same, will be remembered by the Palestinians and their allies&#8230;</p>
<p>One day Israel will lose its advantage of power.  Whether through global lack of preparation to oil shortage, and/or through the ravages of a warming climate, and/or as a consequence of geopolitical and/or economic turmoil, and/or because Russian (or other) nukes end up smuggled inside the country, something will give and Israel will not be able to resist the swelling tide of enmity that it has manufactured over the last three-quarters of a century.</p>
<p>And then all that memory, all that grievance, all that hurt and desperation and anger and frustration will wash over the country and no one, not Jew nor Christian nor Muslim, will be the better for it.</p>
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		By: Locus		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-588872</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Locus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 01:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-588869&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

Dean,

&quot;“locus has a long history of bigotry, racism, and flat out dishonesty on several blogs. Looking for rationality from him is as big a waste of time as looking for art in watery dog shit.”

What history?
What bigotry?
What racism?
On what blogs?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-588869">dean</a>.</p>
<p>Dean,</p>
<p>&#8220;“locus has a long history of bigotry, racism, and flat out dishonesty on several blogs. Looking for rationality from him is as big a waste of time as looking for art in watery dog shit.”</p>
<p>What history?<br />
What bigotry?<br />
What racism?<br />
On what blogs?</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-588869</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 01:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The evidence that you are a bigot, racist, and ignorant? Every comment you make.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The evidence that you are a bigot, racist, and ignorant? Every comment you make.</p>
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		By: Locus		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-588866</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Locus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 01:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dean,

&quot;Locus, are you really so stupid that people familiar with you think you aren’t a racist and bigot? &quot;

And I keep asking.

What people?  Where&#039;s your EVIDENCE?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean,</p>
<p>&#8220;Locus, are you really so stupid that people familiar with you think you aren’t a racist and bigot? &#8221;</p>
<p>And I keep asking.</p>
<p>What people?  Where&#8217;s your EVIDENCE?</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-588861</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 01:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-588838&quot;&gt;Locus&lt;/a&gt;.

Locus, are you really so stupid that people familiar with you think you aren&#039;t a racist and bigot? 

Identifying you as such isn&#039;t false. You are one of the prime examples of the worst people we have in this country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-588838">Locus</a>.</p>
<p>Locus, are you really so stupid that people familiar with you think you aren&#8217;t a racist and bigot? </p>
<p>Identifying you as such isn&#8217;t false. You are one of the prime examples of the worst people we have in this country.</p>
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		By: Locus		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-588853</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Locus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 00:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dean,

&quot;...every comment out of your mouth the situation surrounding Israel’s actions.&quot;

You claimed that I had a history of &quot;bigotry&quot; and &quot;racism&quot; on OTHER blogs.

Are you really so stupid you don&#039;t know what the meaning of the word &#039;other&#039;???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean,</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;every comment out of your mouth the situation surrounding Israel’s actions.&#8221;</p>
<p>You claimed that I had a history of &#8220;bigotry&#8221; and &#8220;racism&#8221; on OTHER blogs.</p>
<p>Are you really so stupid you don&#8217;t know what the meaning of the word &#8216;other&#8217;???</p>
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		By: Locus		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-588844</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Locus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 00:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-588688&quot;&gt;Lionel A&lt;/a&gt;.

Blatantly false.

First you claimed that the incidents were linked but accused me of ignoring history.

Now you&#039;re CHANGING your story to accuse me of linking the incidents. 

You&#039;re the one who brought up the Liberty in the first place  !!!! 

Please stop lying.

Why are you so afraid of explaining yourself?  The more you dodge and weave and flat-out lie, the more people are going to believe that your belief system must be so monstrous that you dare not express it openly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/05/04/bloviating-morons-will-bloviate-trump-and-giuliani/#comment-588688">Lionel A</a>.</p>
<p>Blatantly false.</p>
<p>First you claimed that the incidents were linked but accused me of ignoring history.</p>
<p>Now you&#8217;re CHANGING your story to accuse me of linking the incidents. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re the one who brought up the Liberty in the first place  !!!! </p>
<p>Please stop lying.</p>
<p>Why are you so afraid of explaining yourself?  The more you dodge and weave and flat-out lie, the more people are going to believe that your belief system must be so monstrous that you dare not express it openly.</p>
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