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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583694</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2018 01:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583537&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes the federalist story is key, because of their typical dishonesty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583537">dean</a>.</p>
<p>Yes the federalist story is key, because of their typical dishonesty.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583550</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 02:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583537&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

Federalist is not the issue, the link is to a filed federal lawsuit.
The holds or blocks, however you wish to justify them, are what allowed the lawsuit to happen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583537">dean</a>.</p>
<p>Federalist is not the issue, the link is to a filed federal lawsuit.<br />
The holds or blocks, however you wish to justify them, are what allowed the lawsuit to happen.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583537</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 23:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MikeN, it&#039;s not a surprise that your federalist &quot;news&quot; is a steaming pile of intentionally dishonest shit -- that&#039;s what the federalist puts out for your kind. 

Trump has not even made a good number of nominations (part of the right-wing ignorance that government doesn&#039;t need people who have an understanding of anything), he hasn&#039;t vetted any of the people he has put forth worth crap, and some of it goes back to 2013: Democratic folks screwed with the rules to make it more difficult for the racists in the Republican party to filibuster the nominees of the black president they didn&#039;t like. Republicans responded with innovative procedural blocks. The roles are now reversed -- nothing new, despite the crap from the paid liars at the federalist. 

Holds are also in play - from both sides. At one time Grassley was responsible for 4 himself on Trump nominees, and Republicans blocked nominees for three seats. 

Both sides have tossed blocks in the way, and Trump has been the major problem by nominating people who shouldn&#039;t even be working as dog catchers for important positions. 

Once again, your &quot;ooh, all the problems are due to the evil left&quot; whine is vacuous -- at least, it is to anyone who has the time to check its veracity. If you&#039;re a simple minded right-winger who doesn&#039;t care about facts -- well, that&#039;s the federalist&#039;s target readership.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MikeN, it&#8217;s not a surprise that your federalist &#8220;news&#8221; is a steaming pile of intentionally dishonest shit &#8212; that&#8217;s what the federalist puts out for your kind. </p>
<p>Trump has not even made a good number of nominations (part of the right-wing ignorance that government doesn&#8217;t need people who have an understanding of anything), he hasn&#8217;t vetted any of the people he has put forth worth crap, and some of it goes back to 2013: Democratic folks screwed with the rules to make it more difficult for the racists in the Republican party to filibuster the nominees of the black president they didn&#8217;t like. Republicans responded with innovative procedural blocks. The roles are now reversed &#8212; nothing new, despite the crap from the paid liars at the federalist. </p>
<p>Holds are also in play &#8211; from both sides. At one time Grassley was responsible for 4 himself on Trump nominees, and Republicans blocked nominees for three seats. </p>
<p>Both sides have tossed blocks in the way, and Trump has been the major problem by nominating people who shouldn&#8217;t even be working as dog catchers for important positions. </p>
<p>Once again, your &#8220;ooh, all the problems are due to the evil left&#8221; whine is vacuous &#8212; at least, it is to anyone who has the time to check its veracity. If you&#8217;re a simple minded right-winger who doesn&#8217;t care about facts &#8212; well, that&#8217;s the federalist&#8217;s target readership.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583484</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 16:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-582677&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

Prediction: This is the lawsuit that will have more of an impact.
http://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/feclawsuit.pdf

The Senate Democrats&#039; ongoing attempt to block all nominees to executive branch is going to hurt here.  It takes 4 FEC Commissioners to make a ruling and Dems have blocked a pair from being confirmed(not really blocked but they are part of the general slowdown).  The law allows for private lawsuits in such a case, and this will cause discovery of bank accounts and potential criminal case against every donor involved.  
Tom Delay was indicted and for some time convicted of money laundering for roughly a similar scheme.  In the intervening time, the Supreme Court has expressly ruled that this scheme is illegal, and their ruling hinged on the idea that such a scheme would not be implemented without being exposed and prosecuted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-582677">MikeN</a>.</p>
<p>Prediction: This is the lawsuit that will have more of an impact.<br />
<a href="http://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/feclawsuit.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/feclawsuit.pdf</a></p>
<p>The Senate Democrats&#8217; ongoing attempt to block all nominees to executive branch is going to hurt here.  It takes 4 FEC Commissioners to make a ruling and Dems have blocked a pair from being confirmed(not really blocked but they are part of the general slowdown).  The law allows for private lawsuits in such a case, and this will cause discovery of bank accounts and potential criminal case against every donor involved.<br />
Tom Delay was indicted and for some time convicted of money laundering for roughly a similar scheme.  In the intervening time, the Supreme Court has expressly ruled that this scheme is illegal, and their ruling hinged on the idea that such a scheme would not be implemented without being exposed and prosecuted.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583282</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 20:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Comey&#039;s memos reveal Trump lied about his alibi.  There&#039;s still hope for the Russian hookers story!  Maybe Mueller will get him on the stand and Trump will repeat the lie and impeachment here we come!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comey&#8217;s memos reveal Trump lied about his alibi.  There&#8217;s still hope for the Russian hookers story!  Maybe Mueller will get him on the stand and Trump will repeat the lie and impeachment here we come!</p>
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		By: Obstreperous Applesauce		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583258</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obstreperous Applesauce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cover the base...

From the Sb diaspora:

Oh noes, teh magicals!
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2018/04/23/potus-shield-prays-against-witches-and-warlocks-opposing-trump/

Base is covered!
https://i2.wp.com/freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2018/04/doonesburysaint.jpg?ssl=1
------H/T Paryngula 
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2018/04/22/evangelical-is-just-another-word-for-hypocrite/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cover the base&#8230;</p>
<p>From the Sb diaspora:</p>
<p>Oh noes, teh magicals!<br />
<a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2018/04/23/potus-shield-prays-against-witches-and-warlocks-opposing-trump/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2018/04/23/potus-shield-prays-against-witches-and-warlocks-opposing-trump/</a></p>
<p>Base is covered!<br />
<a href="https://i2.wp.com/freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2018/04/doonesburysaint.jpg?ssl=1" rel="nofollow ugc">https://i2.wp.com/freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2018/04/doonesburysaint.jpg?ssl=1</a><br />
&#8212;&#8212;H/T Paryngula<br />
<a href="https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2018/04/22/evangelical-is-just-another-word-for-hypocrite/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2018/04/22/evangelical-is-just-another-word-for-hypocrite/</a></p>
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		By: Bernard J.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583250</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-582677&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

Great &lt;i&gt;non sequitur&lt;/i&gt; there MikeN. 

Do you have an app that churns them out?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-582677">MikeN</a>.</p>
<p>Great <i>non sequitur</i> there MikeN. </p>
<p>Do you have an app that churns them out?</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583247</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-582677&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

Trump comes in as a newcomer to politics, and manages to beat the first female major party nominee, with 25 years of experience as the wife of the President, Senator from New York, and Secretary of State, who is backed by Obamas and the Bushes.  Now you think you&#039;re going to beat him with a civil lawsuit, something he is rather familiar with.  What&#039;s next, a reality show, or building design?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-582677">MikeN</a>.</p>
<p>Trump comes in as a newcomer to politics, and manages to beat the first female major party nominee, with 25 years of experience as the wife of the President, Senator from New York, and Secretary of State, who is backed by Obamas and the Bushes.  Now you think you&#8217;re going to beat him with a civil lawsuit, something he is rather familiar with.  What&#8217;s next, a reality show, or building design?</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583235</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 13:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, that sort of thing happens when you are allowed to use witnesses and co-conspirators as your attorneys having them sit in the room with you. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You really don&#039;t like it when reality shoots your asinine conspiracies all to hell do you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes, that sort of thing happens when you are allowed to use witnesses and co-conspirators as your attorneys having them sit in the room with you. </p></blockquote>
<p>You really don&#8217;t like it when reality shoots your asinine conspiracies all to hell do you?</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-583184</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 03:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-582972&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

Do you have another explanation for low DNC fundraising?

&#062;It’s interesting to point out that the sailor took the pictures despite (by his own admission) knowing it was illegal to do so. 

Hillary knew what she was doing was illegal, even sending out warnings to others not to use private e-mail, while she was not just using private e-mail but her own server.

&#062;His claims that he took a photo to “document his service” were quickly shown to be false, 

And Hillary&#039;s claims were shown to be false, such as saying she was doing it for convenience not wanting to use more than one device.  

&#062;It was also pointed out that immediately after he told the FBI he hadn’t distributed the photos he went home and destroyed his computer, camera, and memory card before the FBI could examine them.

Hillary destroyed computers, and deleted e-mails after receiving a subpoena.

&#062; The FBI and Navy both said his actions directly put national security at risk.

FBI said extremely reckless.  CIA won&#039;t comment on what they had to do in response to Hillary&#039;s e-mail being possibly available to foreign countries.  They definitely had to use a lot of resources to go thru her e-mail and see if any of their programs and assets were at risk 

&#062; Quite a different scenario than the one HRC (secretaries of state before her)
Colin Powell also went against the record keeping law, but he wasn&#039;t using it for classified info, and he wasn&#039;t running his own server which is more susceptible.

&#062; The most egregious lie mikeN and others push is that there were different standards — the fact that investigations led to different conclusions and actions (than the ones they wanted) is too complicated for them to understand.

Yes, that sort of thing happens when you are allowed to use witnesses and co-conspirators as your attorneys having them sit in the room with you.  Having people get immunity to provide info that could be acquired with a subpoena also helps.  If they&#039;d used the Mueller/Weissman tactics against Team Hillary, we&#039;d have President Bernie right now.  Oh who am I kidding, the DNC would have rigged it again and put in Biden.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/04/11/cover-the-fans-the-sht-is-coming/#comment-582972">dean</a>.</p>
<p>Do you have another explanation for low DNC fundraising?</p>
<p>&gt;It’s interesting to point out that the sailor took the pictures despite (by his own admission) knowing it was illegal to do so. </p>
<p>Hillary knew what she was doing was illegal, even sending out warnings to others not to use private e-mail, while she was not just using private e-mail but her own server.</p>
<p>&gt;His claims that he took a photo to “document his service” were quickly shown to be false, </p>
<p>And Hillary&#8217;s claims were shown to be false, such as saying she was doing it for convenience not wanting to use more than one device.  </p>
<p>&gt;It was also pointed out that immediately after he told the FBI he hadn’t distributed the photos he went home and destroyed his computer, camera, and memory card before the FBI could examine them.</p>
<p>Hillary destroyed computers, and deleted e-mails after receiving a subpoena.</p>
<p>&gt; The FBI and Navy both said his actions directly put national security at risk.</p>
<p>FBI said extremely reckless.  CIA won&#8217;t comment on what they had to do in response to Hillary&#8217;s e-mail being possibly available to foreign countries.  They definitely had to use a lot of resources to go thru her e-mail and see if any of their programs and assets were at risk </p>
<p>&gt; Quite a different scenario than the one HRC (secretaries of state before her)<br />
Colin Powell also went against the record keeping law, but he wasn&#8217;t using it for classified info, and he wasn&#8217;t running his own server which is more susceptible.</p>
<p>&gt; The most egregious lie mikeN and others push is that there were different standards — the fact that investigations led to different conclusions and actions (than the ones they wanted) is too complicated for them to understand.</p>
<p>Yes, that sort of thing happens when you are allowed to use witnesses and co-conspirators as your attorneys having them sit in the room with you.  Having people get immunity to provide info that could be acquired with a subpoena also helps.  If they&#8217;d used the Mueller/Weissman tactics against Team Hillary, we&#8217;d have President Bernie right now.  Oh who am I kidding, the DNC would have rigged it again and put in Biden.</p>
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