No, you can check my original statements. I gave this reasoning from the beginning. I think you asked what difference does it make. I was more confident of his ‘innocence’ then than I am now, so I am not as bothered by the claim now.

The point of my argument was not that he is innocent because he drove into the car into the van, but that describing him as driving into the crowd provides the wrong impression and would make people outraged if he were to be found innocent(on murder charge).

What a load of self-serving bollocks. You tried to peddle an egregious rightwing lie and got nailed for it. Now you’re trying to pretend that what you did wasn’t as appallingly shit-awful as it actually was.

Do you think the video is faked? I wouldn’t rule it out, but it should be noted the source posted the video in response to claims by conspiracy theorists that the attack was faked, so I doubt he would be editing things, especially in a way that helps the killer. Not some random guy either, but the former chief of staff to Tom Perriello. Not surprising the witnesses wouldn’t see it, since almost all the witnesses would have seen the attack and not been paying attention to a random car driving up hundreds of feet away. It’s not clear that the police were ever asked this question about the video. The lawyer was asking about things post arrest, killer’s attitude at that time.

is that there is video of his car being attacked,

It is worth noting that this is not supported by witnesses or the police.

Yes, I still see that as a possibility, but if the video is as described in the media, then he is guilty.
What people are not recognizing, even though I have posted it, is that there is video of his car being attacked, and it certainly looks like on that video that the car speeds up after the attack. It is somewhat contradictory to the evidence described in the media, but not conclusively so. It is possible the car was attacked because it was already in attack mode.

Vehicular homicide or some lesser charge is of course on the table. If he is guilty of first degree murder, then it doesn’t matter that his driving into a car into a van that drove into a crowd is described as driving into a crowd of protesters.
The point of my argument was not that he is innocent because he drove into the car into the van, but that describing him as driving into the crowd provides the wrong impression and would make people outraged if he were to be found innocent(on murder charge).

As I said at the time, MikeN’s behaviour on that thread was irrevocably bad. It actually changed my view of him permanently.

MikeN tried to peddle the pernicious rightwing lie that the murderer was innocent and didn’t commit vehicular homicide.

Yup — his initial comment was that the guy was scared and being attacked by the people in the crowd and was simply trying to get away to safety.

IIRC, MikeN tried to peddle the pernicious rightwing lie that the murderer was innocent and didn’t commit vehicular homicide. This particularly vile bit of rightwing mendacity got nailed yet here he is again trying to act as though he had a point? FFS.

He eventually agreed with my position, and dishonestly called me a liar for taking a different position.

I never agreed with you. I specifically stated, with a link that your claim the nazi did not drive into the crowd was wrong.

Patrick, dean is projecting his own dishonesty onto others. He was calling me a liar and ignoring evidence about Charlottesville. He eventually agreed with my position, and dishonestly called me a liar for taking a different position.
I had two points about Charlottesville. One was that the killer did not drive his car into a crowd of protesters. The other is that he is innocent. Based on evidence provided by dean, I’ve moved somewhat towards his position on the latter, and would do so completely if the video evidence ends up matching the description provided in the media.
However, on the first point, my argument was that he did not drive his car into the crowd, but into another car that went into a van that went into the crowd. There was a crowd between his car and the back car, so the description is technically accurate, but that wasn’t my point. Dean kept calling me a liar and I provided video evidence that showed I was right. When I eventually got him to respond on this specific point is that his car hitting the crowd, he said no it isn’t and you are a liar for claiming otherwise.