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		By: Boletim de Notícias: Poluição por metais pesados atinge ilhas remotas, diz estudo &#124; Direto da Ci&#234;ncia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boletim de Notícias: Poluição por metais pesados atinge ilhas remotas, diz estudo &#124; Direto da Ci&#234;ncia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2018 10:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Important advances on the battery front [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Important advances on the battery front [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: hedef muhendislik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hedef muhendislik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanx for this article.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanx for this article.</p>
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		By: BBD		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2018 12:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/03/09/important-advances-battery-front/#comment-573148&quot;&gt;BBD&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Hours, not days, then put in twenty times as much batteries.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Economically unfeasible. Please don&#039;t just say stuff, it&#039;s tedious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/03/09/important-advances-battery-front/#comment-573148">BBD</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hours, not days, then put in twenty times as much batteries.</p></blockquote>
<p>Economically unfeasible. Please don&#8217;t just say stuff, it&#8217;s tedious.</p>
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		By: Doug Alder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2018 22:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just ran across this https://inhabitat.com/worlds-first-rechargeable-proton-battery-requires-zero-lithium/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just ran across this <a href="https://inhabitat.com/worlds-first-rechargeable-proton-battery-requires-zero-lithium/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://inhabitat.com/worlds-first-rechargeable-proton-battery-requires-zero-lithium/</a></p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2018 19:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;For this reason, sulfur-based lithium ion batteries can only be charged and discharged a limited number of times.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Is the issue here unbeatable? The advancements in battery life for smart phones (I know, lithium ion, so I&#039;m not conflating the two types here) and in Tesla&#039;s has had as much to do with the improvements to smart charging methods (in Tesla&#039;s case, AI applied to the data obtained during charging cycles of their batteries).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For this reason, sulfur-based lithium ion batteries can only be charged and discharged a limited number of times.</p></blockquote>
<p>Is the issue here unbeatable? The advancements in battery life for smart phones (I know, lithium ion, so I&#8217;m not conflating the two types here) and in Tesla&#8217;s has had as much to do with the improvements to smart charging methods (in Tesla&#8217;s case, AI applied to the data obtained during charging cycles of their batteries).</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2018 19:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/03/09/important-advances-battery-front/#comment-573148&quot;&gt;BBD&lt;/a&gt;.

I notice you leave out the two Jacobson solution, 17x turbines at hydropower plants, and storage at CSP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/03/09/important-advances-battery-front/#comment-573148">BBD</a>.</p>
<p>I notice you leave out the two Jacobson solution, 17x turbines at hydropower plants, and storage at CSP.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2018 19:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/03/09/important-advances-battery-front/#comment-573148&quot;&gt;BBD&lt;/a&gt;.

Hours, not days, then put in twenty times as much batteries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/03/09/important-advances-battery-front/#comment-573148">BBD</a>.</p>
<p>Hours, not days, then put in twenty times as much batteries.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2018 19:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does that mean low sulfur coal would become less valuable?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does that mean low sulfur coal would become less valuable?</p>
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		By: BBD		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2018 17:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Billions upon billions of batteries - whatever technology is used - are going to represent a very difficult sustainable manufacturing problem in their own right. But that is what we will get so long as the meme that renewables intermittency should be offset by batteries remains in play. But since batteries are good for hours, not days, the actual role they can play in dealing with renewable intermittency is quite limited. Until the seasonal solar issue is addressed (PHES, grid interconnections, wind overbuild, prayer) then prototype battery tech discussions are interesting, but not essentially much more encouraging than contemplating the shortcomings of LiION (recharge lifecycle factor in long-term cost).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billions upon billions of batteries &#8211; whatever technology is used &#8211; are going to represent a very difficult sustainable manufacturing problem in their own right. But that is what we will get so long as the meme that renewables intermittency should be offset by batteries remains in play. But since batteries are good for hours, not days, the actual role they can play in dealing with renewable intermittency is quite limited. Until the seasonal solar issue is addressed (PHES, grid interconnections, wind overbuild, prayer) then prototype battery tech discussions are interesting, but not essentially much more encouraging than contemplating the shortcomings of LiION (recharge lifecycle factor in long-term cost).</p>
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		By: RickA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2018 17:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg:

I also saw this battery story today:

https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/09/proton-battery-carbon-water-no-lithium/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:</p>
<p>I also saw this battery story today:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/09/proton-battery-carbon-water-no-lithium/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/09/proton-battery-carbon-water-no-lithium/</a></p>
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