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		By: Tyvor Winn		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-569542</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyvor Winn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2018 23:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re MikeN: &quot;This is now being used as evidence that Page was working for Russia against the US.&quot;

You do realize I hope that the two are not mutually exclusive. There are such things as people who work for both sides.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re MikeN: &#8220;This is now being used as evidence that Page was working for Russia against the US.&#8221;</p>
<p>You do realize I hope that the two are not mutually exclusive. There are such things as people who work for both sides.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568932</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568806&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

simple minded idiot:

try using real words and correct spelling, you&#039;ll have a better chance of having your foolishness seem clear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568806">dean</a>.</p>
<p>simple minded idiot:</p>
<p>try using real words and correct spelling, you&#8217;ll have a better chance of having your foolishness seem clear.</p>
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		By: SteveP		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568886</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh dear. There is a klinker in the &quot;just keep guns out of the hands of the mentall ill&quot; argument.   People who are healthy today sometimes have the misfortune of becoming  schizophrenic ,   paranoid, delusional,  demented, or otherwise completely irrational  a year from now.   This suggests that we will need to schedule  an annual mental health examine for all gun holders, just in case they have suffered mental decline since their last examine.

Of course, that still doesn&#039;t  prevent gun owners  from accidentally  or purposefully ingesting loco weed, LSD, too much alcohol, or bath salts while in possession of their fire arm.  So maybe assault rifles should have breath analyzers built into them.  I would further suggest that they have a blood analyzer built into the weapon  that is capable of detecting, at a minimum, all the various extra substances that shooters have been known to have had in their systems at the time they have killed someone inappropriately.   Have a needle come out of the stock and extract a blood sample from the shooter.   Put a miniature analyzer in the butt. 

Or.... just ban the god damned assault rifles.  Use your fucking brains.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear. There is a klinker in the &#8220;just keep guns out of the hands of the mentall ill&#8221; argument.   People who are healthy today sometimes have the misfortune of becoming  schizophrenic ,   paranoid, delusional,  demented, or otherwise completely irrational  a year from now.   This suggests that we will need to schedule  an annual mental health examine for all gun holders, just in case they have suffered mental decline since their last examine.</p>
<p>Of course, that still doesn&#8217;t  prevent gun owners  from accidentally  or purposefully ingesting loco weed, LSD, too much alcohol, or bath salts while in possession of their fire arm.  So maybe assault rifles should have breath analyzers built into them.  I would further suggest that they have a blood analyzer built into the weapon  that is capable of detecting, at a minimum, all the various extra substances that shooters have been known to have had in their systems at the time they have killed someone inappropriately.   Have a needle come out of the stock and extract a blood sample from the shooter.   Put a miniature analyzer in the butt. </p>
<p>Or&#8230;. just ban the god damned assault rifles.  Use your fucking brains.</p>
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		By: SteveP		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568885</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Connecticut passed a package of stricter gun laws, including laws banning assault weapons after Sandy Hook.  Deaths from guns fell 45% from 2012  to 2016.

Guns and ammo need to be treated with a great deal of respect,  like any dangerous object or animal or substance, or they will kill people.  Letting any mental defective or untrained nit wit get their hands on a gun that was specifically designed to efficiently kill and maim humans  is itself a sign of a mental deficiency.  Giving these people guns is on a continuum that includes letting people use spent fuel rods to heat their basements, which we don&#039;t do, and which would result in lots of deaths, like guns do. 

Right wingers are apparently so lacking in  compassion for anything other than fetal tissue and their god damned mythologies that they are not yet willing to budge on the need to take practical common sense steps to eliminate at least some gun deaths.  The great confederate/ hill billy/ western/country  mythology of needing to have a heavily armed populace so it is able to threaten the U.S. Government and its army is essentially treason rationalized by the second amendment.   It is an immature fantasy nurtured by the gun industry and the right wing lunatics who stoke and exploit the fires of  fear. 

Today I was in a restaurant listening to some idiots babble about guns not killing people. Which is true to the extent that guns cannot kill people if there are no people anywhere near the guns.   So let&#039;s take the most efficient killing machines on the market,  the school slaughter specials, and put them out of reach of anybody without a certifiable need for them, proof of mental capacity to handle them responsibly, and extensive training in how and when to use them. 

My life, liberty and pursuit of happiness trumps your god damned adolescent gun fantasies. 

Lock them up. 

Melt them down. 

Turn them into something useful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connecticut passed a package of stricter gun laws, including laws banning assault weapons after Sandy Hook.  Deaths from guns fell 45% from 2012  to 2016.</p>
<p>Guns and ammo need to be treated with a great deal of respect,  like any dangerous object or animal or substance, or they will kill people.  Letting any mental defective or untrained nit wit get their hands on a gun that was specifically designed to efficiently kill and maim humans  is itself a sign of a mental deficiency.  Giving these people guns is on a continuum that includes letting people use spent fuel rods to heat their basements, which we don&#8217;t do, and which would result in lots of deaths, like guns do. </p>
<p>Right wingers are apparently so lacking in  compassion for anything other than fetal tissue and their god damned mythologies that they are not yet willing to budge on the need to take practical common sense steps to eliminate at least some gun deaths.  The great confederate/ hill billy/ western/country  mythology of needing to have a heavily armed populace so it is able to threaten the U.S. Government and its army is essentially treason rationalized by the second amendment.   It is an immature fantasy nurtured by the gun industry and the right wing lunatics who stoke and exploit the fires of  fear. </p>
<p>Today I was in a restaurant listening to some idiots babble about guns not killing people. Which is true to the extent that guns cannot kill people if there are no people anywhere near the guns.   So let&#8217;s take the most efficient killing machines on the market,  the school slaughter specials, and put them out of reach of anybody without a certifiable need for them, proof of mental capacity to handle them responsibly, and extensive training in how and when to use them. </p>
<p>My life, liberty and pursuit of happiness trumps your god damned adolescent gun fantasies. </p>
<p>Lock them up. </p>
<p>Melt them down. </p>
<p>Turn them into something useful.</p>
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		By: BBD		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568819</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BBD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568580&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;So I’m the one felling to get it so rape it’s OK sweet&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Incomprehensible gibberish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568580">MikeN</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>So I’m the one felling to get it so rape it’s OK sweet</p></blockquote>
<p>Incomprehensible gibberish.</p>
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		By: Simple Minded Man		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568809</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simple Minded Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568806&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

When people dont get what there reading]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568806">dean</a>.</p>
<p>When people dont get what there reading</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568806</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;So I’m the one felling to get it so rape it’s OK sweet&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Congratulations -- you live up to the &quot;name&quot; you&#039;ve chosen to be listed with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So I’m the one felling to get it so rape it’s OK sweet</p></blockquote>
<p>Congratulations &#8212; you live up to the &#8220;name&#8221; you&#8217;ve chosen to be listed with.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568800</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568560&quot;&gt;Christopher Winter&lt;/a&gt;.

1) The parts that were corroborated was publicly known information at the time it was compiled.
2) The FBI was using Page as an informant, knowing that he was being targeted by Russians.  So Page was working for the US against Russian in 2013, and the case ran all the way into 2016.  This is now being used as evidence that Page was working for Russia against the US.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568560">Christopher Winter</a>.</p>
<p>1) The parts that were corroborated was publicly known information at the time it was compiled.<br />
2) The FBI was using Page as an informant, knowing that he was being targeted by Russians.  So Page was working for the US against Russian in 2013, and the case ran all the way into 2016.  This is now being used as evidence that Page was working for Russia against the US.</p>
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		By: Tyvor Winn		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568790</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyvor Winn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 19:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re LiD: &quot;4. That sounds heaps like my impression of most yanks. Constant fear. Theres always some real or imagined threat. Always.&quot;

I&#039;m glad you give us credit for being aware of some real threats. The trouble is that in the U.S. the more real the threat, the more likely it is to generate lies about it.  We&#039;ve been lied to many times about real hazards kept hidden by corporations and the government and we&#039;ve been lied to many times about false hazards by various people and groups for various political and/or economic reasons. So, depending on our dispositions, favored news sources, or something, some of us have decided that most, maybe all hazards are nothing that serious, and others develop dark suspicions about nearly everything that anyone describes as a hazard.

Maybe Australia -- do Australians really call the country &quot;Oz&quot;? -- doesn&#039;t have that kind of history and so people there can approach the topic of hazards more realistically.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re LiD: &#8220;4. That sounds heaps like my impression of most yanks. Constant fear. Theres always some real or imagined threat. Always.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you give us credit for being aware of some real threats. The trouble is that in the U.S. the more real the threat, the more likely it is to generate lies about it.  We&#8217;ve been lied to many times about real hazards kept hidden by corporations and the government and we&#8217;ve been lied to many times about false hazards by various people and groups for various political and/or economic reasons. So, depending on our dispositions, favored news sources, or something, some of us have decided that most, maybe all hazards are nothing that serious, and others develop dark suspicions about nearly everything that anyone describes as a hazard.</p>
<p>Maybe Australia &#8212; do Australians really call the country &#8220;Oz&#8221;? &#8212; doesn&#8217;t have that kind of history and so people there can approach the topic of hazards more realistically.</p>
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		By: dhogaza		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568788</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dhogaza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 19:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568763&quot;&gt;SteveP&lt;/a&gt;.

The reason for banning lead shot and lead fishing weights isn&#039;t due to human health issues.  For lead shot the major human health issue is the accidental ingestion of lead fragments when the bullet comes apart after hitting bone etc.

But that&#039;s relatively minimal.

The real issue is lead poisoning in wildlife that scavenges on shot animal that lives long enough to avoid a hunter trying to find it,  and in the case of shotgun pellets the fact that most pellets miss, fall into the water, and are quite commonly taken up as grit by waterfowl that&#039;s later scavenged by predators, most notably bald eagles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/18/paul-ryan-massacre-children/#comment-568763">SteveP</a>.</p>
<p>The reason for banning lead shot and lead fishing weights isn&#8217;t due to human health issues.  For lead shot the major human health issue is the accidental ingestion of lead fragments when the bullet comes apart after hitting bone etc.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s relatively minimal.</p>
<p>The real issue is lead poisoning in wildlife that scavenges on shot animal that lives long enough to avoid a hunter trying to find it,  and in the case of shotgun pellets the fact that most pellets miss, fall into the water, and are quite commonly taken up as grit by waterfowl that&#8217;s later scavenged by predators, most notably bald eagles.</p>
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