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		By: Tanesha Arnaldo		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-569340</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tanesha Arnaldo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2018 14:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I saw Hilary Clinton speak at UCSC many years ago. I’ve been smitten ever since. I’d love to see her wearing a vinyl, skin tight, order me to bake cookies in the kitchen, helping me massage the dough with a whip handle. I’d just explode into a puddle of unbridled emotion… hmmmm, this is probably not relevant to anyone but my therapist. Nevermind. Better get back to thinking about Godwin and Saddam as Hitler or whatever we’re supposed to be opining about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Hilary Clinton speak at UCSC many years ago. I’ve been smitten ever since. I’d love to see her wearing a vinyl, skin tight, order me to bake cookies in the kitchen, helping me massage the dough with a whip handle. I’d just explode into a puddle of unbridled emotion… hmmmm, this is probably not relevant to anyone but my therapist. Nevermind. Better get back to thinking about Godwin and Saddam as Hitler or whatever we’re supposed to be opining about.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568826</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 21:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568816&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

The efforts are very consistent with not a group spending money, but a group spending money to make money.  This is a troll farm, that then turned around and sold ads to all the people attracted by their posts.  
The company started when he realized that he could make more money promoting other people&#039;s companies than promoting his own food business.
It&#039;s why they could target randomly, spend more money in DC than swing states, etc., even after the indictment says they learned to target purple states.
They were jumping in with targeting pro-Trump, anti-Hillary, and a whole bunch of other movements.  They support Sanders and Trump because that&#039;s where the money is, lots of eyeballs.  It makes sense now why they didn&#039;t bother supporting Rubio and Cruz who were the biggest threats to Hillary(though many in her campaign were expecting Jeb).  Bernie would have been hard for Trump to beat, though it&#039;s reasonable for a pro-Trump campaign to support Bernie against Hillary; later in that video Ann Coulter tells Bill Maher that Bernie Sanders is toughest opponent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568816">dean</a>.</p>
<p>The efforts are very consistent with not a group spending money, but a group spending money to make money.  This is a troll farm, that then turned around and sold ads to all the people attracted by their posts.<br />
The company started when he realized that he could make more money promoting other people&#8217;s companies than promoting his own food business.<br />
It&#8217;s why they could target randomly, spend more money in DC than swing states, etc., even after the indictment says they learned to target purple states.<br />
They were jumping in with targeting pro-Trump, anti-Hillary, and a whole bunch of other movements.  They support Sanders and Trump because that&#8217;s where the money is, lots of eyeballs.  It makes sense now why they didn&#8217;t bother supporting Rubio and Cruz who were the biggest threats to Hillary(though many in her campaign were expecting Jeb).  Bernie would have been hard for Trump to beat, though it&#8217;s reasonable for a pro-Trump campaign to support Bernie against Hillary; later in that video Ann Coulter tells Bill Maher that Bernie Sanders is toughest opponent.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568816</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is  the case most of the money was spent after the election (56% to 44%)  --but spending of $thousands per month began in 2015. Spending continued after the election

Further, Mueller points out clearly, without question, that paid ads were only one component: the fake facebook groups (“United Muslims of America,” “Blacktivist,” and “Army of Jesus.”, etc.)  and posts were equally as big. Primary targets of the groups and posts were aimed at convincing people (typically minorities and elderly) not to vote and pushing fake stories of rampant voter fraud. it is pointed out that the facebook efforts alone reached roughly 130 million people. 

The indictment also states, clearly, that the one of the Russians&#039; primary goals was to
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;spread distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And, despite claims by some, that is precisely how major news outlets have reported what the indictment says.  However, information obtained in the investigation shows that they also wanted to

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;interfere with US political and electoral processes, including the 2016 US presidential election&lt;/b&gt;,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Russians fully expected HRC would win and wanted to weaken her position after she took office. One of the efforts they aimed at (this comes from a memo circulated to the Russians involved in the work) was that posts and fake groups should

&lt;blockquote&gt;Use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump—&lt;b&gt;we support them&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Saying that the intent was not to influence the election runs counter to everything known, and saying the efforts didn&#039;t favor Trump also runs counter to what is known. Saying otherwise is dishonest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is  the case most of the money was spent after the election (56% to 44%)  &#8211;but spending of $thousands per month began in 2015. Spending continued after the election</p>
<p>Further, Mueller points out clearly, without question, that paid ads were only one component: the fake facebook groups (“United Muslims of America,” “Blacktivist,” and “Army of Jesus.”, etc.)  and posts were equally as big. Primary targets of the groups and posts were aimed at convincing people (typically minorities and elderly) not to vote and pushing fake stories of rampant voter fraud. it is pointed out that the facebook efforts alone reached roughly 130 million people. </p>
<p>The indictment also states, clearly, that the one of the Russians&#8217; primary goals was to</p>
<blockquote><p><b>spread distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general</b></p></blockquote>
<p>And, despite claims by some, that is precisely how major news outlets have reported what the indictment says.  However, information obtained in the investigation shows that they also wanted to</p>
<blockquote><p><b>interfere with US political and electoral processes, including the 2016 US presidential election</b>,</p></blockquote>
<p>The Russians fully expected HRC would win and wanted to weaken her position after she took office. One of the efforts they aimed at (this comes from a memo circulated to the Russians involved in the work) was that posts and fake groups should</p>
<blockquote><p>Use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump—<b>we support them</b></p></blockquote>
<p>Saying that the intent was not to influence the election runs counter to everything known, and saying the efforts didn&#8217;t favor Trump also runs counter to what is known. Saying otherwise is dishonest.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568811</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At least one progressive media outlet is sticking to its principles ahead of hating Trump.

https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-or-intelgate/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least one progressive media outlet is sticking to its principles ahead of hating Trump.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-or-intelgate/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-or-intelgate/</a></p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568803</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 20:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wisconsin ad spend- $1979, only $54 after the primary.
Pennsylvania- $300
Michigan- $823

Most of the Facebook money was spent AFTER the election, not before.
Three most heavily targeted stated- Missouri, Maryland, New York.

I thought John Kerry was foolish for leaving $10 million in the bank, but this is even dumber than that.

People need to realize the goal was not electing Trump.  It might have just been trying to get readers to sell ads.
It&#039;s how the company was founded.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wisconsin ad spend- $1979, only $54 after the primary.<br />
Pennsylvania- $300<br />
Michigan- $823</p>
<p>Most of the Facebook money was spent AFTER the election, not before.<br />
Three most heavily targeted stated- Missouri, Maryland, New York.</p>
<p>I thought John Kerry was foolish for leaving $10 million in the bank, but this is even dumber than that.</p>
<p>People need to realize the goal was not electing Trump.  It might have just been trying to get readers to sell ads.<br />
It&#8217;s how the company was founded.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568583</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#062;    Telling someone online you oppose a candidate for President is not a crime.
&#062;
&#062;It is if you’re a foreign country antagonistic to the USA, and you’re doing it surreptitiously.

No it isn&#039;t.  By your logic every foreigner who posts an objection to Trump is committing a crime, including some commenters here one of whom is from Australia I think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;    Telling someone online you oppose a candidate for President is not a crime.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;It is if you’re a foreign country antagonistic to the USA, and you’re doing it surreptitiously.</p>
<p>No it isn&#8217;t.  By your logic every foreigner who posts an objection to Trump is committing a crime, including some commenters here one of whom is from Australia I think.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568444</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2018 04:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now Democrats in Congress are asking/warning Mueller not to file a report until after the election.  Such probity!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Democrats in Congress are asking/warning Mueller not to file a report until after the election.  Such probity!</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568378</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568117&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Mueller team and Flynn’s lawyers submitted a &lt;b&gt;joint court filing Wednesday, saying both parties are not ready to schedule a sentencing hearing for Flynn.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;&quot;Due to the status of the Special Counsel&#039;s investigation, the parties do not believe that this matter is ready to be scheduled for a sentencing hearing at this time,&quot; said the document, signed by Mueller, two senior assistants, and Flynn attorneys Robert Kelner and Stephen Anthony.

They said they will give another joint status report in 90 days.

&quot;The parties shall file a joint status report by no later than May 1, 2018, stating whether the matter should be scheduled for sentencing or whether a deadline should be set for filing another joint status report,&quot; said a related order signed by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan.

James Trusty, a former high-ranking Justice Department official under the Bush and Obama administrations, told Fox News that &quot;this is very, very common for a cooperating defendant.&quot;

Trusty said Flynn would be &quot;a better witness&quot; if still facing sentencing. Flynn faces up to five years in prison for making false statements to the FBI.

&quot;They don&#039;t want to tell the judge to sentence Flynn until they can tell the judge that he helped in the case,&quot; he added.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;The judge wanted more information&quot; -- that&#039;s the asinine comment you get from people who have no regard for facts -- just like the line of shit below.

&quot;However, this nonenforcement is just a detail having to do with some of the companies that are affected and the time of contracts, that it is unfair to them, and would cause problems with other countries. &quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568117">MikeN</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Mueller team and Flynn’s lawyers submitted a <b>joint court filing Wednesday, saying both parties are not ready to schedule a sentencing hearing for Flynn.</b></p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Due to the status of the Special Counsel&#8217;s investigation, the parties do not believe that this matter is ready to be scheduled for a sentencing hearing at this time,&#8221; said the document, signed by Mueller, two senior assistants, and Flynn attorneys Robert Kelner and Stephen Anthony.</p>
<p>They said they will give another joint status report in 90 days.</p>
<p>&#8220;The parties shall file a joint status report by no later than May 1, 2018, stating whether the matter should be scheduled for sentencing or whether a deadline should be set for filing another joint status report,&#8221; said a related order signed by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan.</p>
<p>James Trusty, a former high-ranking Justice Department official under the Bush and Obama administrations, told Fox News that &#8220;this is very, very common for a cooperating defendant.&#8221;</p>
<p>Trusty said Flynn would be &#8220;a better witness&#8221; if still facing sentencing. Flynn faces up to five years in prison for making false statements to the FBI.</p>
<p>&#8220;They don&#8217;t want to tell the judge to sentence Flynn until they can tell the judge that he helped in the case,&#8221; he added.</p>
<p>&#8220;The judge wanted more information&#8221; &#8212; that&#8217;s the asinine comment you get from people who have no regard for facts &#8212; just like the line of shit below.</p>
<p>&#8220;However, this nonenforcement is just a detail having to do with some of the companies that are affected and the time of contracts, that it is unfair to them, and would cause problems with other countries. &#8220;</p>
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		By: Bernard J.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568312</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568197&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Telling someone online you oppose a candidate for President is not a crime.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is if you&#039;re a foreign country antagonistic to the USA, and you&#039;re doing it surreptitiously.

&lt;blockquote&gt;However, Chris Steele has done the same, and his influence on the election was more [sic].&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, he didn&#039;t - and your Rusglish is showing...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568197">MikeN</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Telling someone online you oppose a candidate for President is not a crime.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is if you&#8217;re a foreign country antagonistic to the USA, and you&#8217;re doing it surreptitiously.</p>
<blockquote><p>However, Chris Steele has done the same, and his influence on the election was more [sic].</p></blockquote>
<p>No, he didn&#8217;t &#8211; and your Rusglish is showing&#8230;</p>
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		By: Bernard J.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568310</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568117&quot;&gt;MikeN&lt;/a&gt;.

Shorter MikeN - &quot;look, squirrels!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/02/16/mueller-indicts-13-people/#comment-568117">MikeN</a>.</p>
<p>Shorter MikeN &#8211; &#8220;look, squirrels!&#8221;</p>
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