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		By: Bernard J.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565668</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 06:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;...Republication...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Serendipitous typo...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471">RickA</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;Republication&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Serendipitous typo&#8230;</p>
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		By: Bernard J.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565667</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 06:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;How many stories have to be revealed to be false before you learn to wait a few days?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, you&#039;re not talking to yourself?!

Yes, let&#039;s wait a few days.  The Republication memo is going to end up another piece of evidence in the obstruction case, with all of its creators/signatories/approvers potentially becoming (moral, if not legal) accessories to the fact.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471">RickA</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>How many stories have to be revealed to be false before you learn to wait a few days?</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, you&#8217;re not talking to yourself?!</p>
<p>Yes, let&#8217;s wait a few days.  The Republication memo is going to end up another piece of evidence in the obstruction case, with all of its creators/signatories/approvers potentially becoming (moral, if not legal) accessories to the fact.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565577</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 08:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

If you assume that Trump engaged in collusion with Russians, then everything he has done is bad, and you will expect him to do much more if he can get away with it.  If you assume he has not colluded with Russians, then much of the bad stuff looks not reasonable.  Indeed, former CIA head Morell explained this, saying that he was part of the problem for endorsing Hillary:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/11/the-full-transcript-michael-morell-216061]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471">RickA</a>.</p>
<p>If you assume that Trump engaged in collusion with Russians, then everything he has done is bad, and you will expect him to do much more if he can get away with it.  If you assume he has not colluded with Russians, then much of the bad stuff looks not reasonable.  Indeed, former CIA head Morell explained this, saying that he was part of the problem for endorsing Hillary:<br />
<a href="https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/11/the-full-transcript-michael-morell-216061" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/11/the-full-transcript-michael-morell-216061</a></p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565576</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 08:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

How many stories have to be revealed to be false before you learn to wait a few days?
Just recently, there was a story about how Nunes wouldn&#039;t answer if he wrote the memo with White House help, but then transcript of meeting was released, and the story was bogus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471">RickA</a>.</p>
<p>How many stories have to be revealed to be false before you learn to wait a few days?<br />
Just recently, there was a story about how Nunes wouldn&#8217;t answer if he wrote the memo with White House help, but then transcript of meeting was released, and the story was bogus.</p>
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		By: Bernard J.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565571</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 05:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I must have missed that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As you seem to have missed the extraordinary and continually-snowballing scandal that engulfs Trump and his enabling GOP.

Even today&#039;s news would have been enough to see any other president off in times past.  Hope Hicks for one had better hope fervently that that she looks good in orange, and doesn&#039;t have claustrophobia...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471">RickA</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>I must have missed that.</p></blockquote>
<p>As you seem to have missed the extraordinary and continually-snowballing scandal that engulfs Trump and his enabling GOP.</p>
<p>Even today&#8217;s news would have been enough to see any other president off in times past.  Hope Hicks for one had better hope fervently that that she looks good in orange, and doesn&#8217;t have claustrophobia&#8230;</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565538</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2018 22:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

Biggest surprise for me was that after defeating the Bushes and the Clintons, Trump&#039;s next opponent is the Kennedys?  I guess all the good speakers are not acceptable because of internal party politics not wanting to give anyone an edge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471">RickA</a>.</p>
<p>Biggest surprise for me was that after defeating the Bushes and the Clintons, Trump&#8217;s next opponent is the Kennedys?  I guess all the good speakers are not acceptable because of internal party politics not wanting to give anyone an edge.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565537</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2018 21:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565530&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;.

So you are saying the speech itself is not a white supremacist speech, for example the lines I quoted, but are saying the speech is TO white supremacists?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565530">dean</a>.</p>
<p>So you are saying the speech itself is not a white supremacist speech, for example the lines I quoted, but are saying the speech is TO white supremacists?</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2018 19:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And what does Mexico do?

Ignore the lies about the &quot;broken&quot; immigration system, crime caused by immigrants, and so on. Look at the news -- the alt right and white supremacists are thrilled with the messages.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what does Mexico do?</p>
<p>Ignore the lies about the &#8220;broken&#8221; immigration system, crime caused by immigrants, and so on. Look at the news &#8212; the alt right and white supremacists are thrilled with the messages.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565528</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2018 19:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

I must have missed that.
I don&#039;t think this is white supremacism but what any country would do:
&quot;We have a responsibility to make them [legal immigrants] welcome here, and they have a responsibility to enter the mainstream of American life. That means learning English and learning about our democratic system of government.&quot;
 &quot;After years of neglect, this administration has taken a strong stand to stiffen the protection of our borders.&quot;
&quot;It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it,&quot; he said.

I would argue about what Mexico does with her southern border, but it doesn&#039;t really refute your point as that country is run by whites.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471">RickA</a>.</p>
<p>I must have missed that.<br />
I don&#8217;t think this is white supremacism but what any country would do:<br />
&#8220;We have a responsibility to make them [legal immigrants] welcome here, and they have a responsibility to enter the mainstream of American life. That means learning English and learning about our democratic system of government.&#8221;<br />
 &#8220;After years of neglect, this administration has taken a strong stand to stiffen the protection of our borders.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>I would argue about what Mexico does with her southern border, but it doesn&#8217;t really refute your point as that country is run by whites.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2018 14:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471&quot;&gt;RickA&lt;/a&gt;.

Yup, his screed to white supremacists was amazing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2018/01/22/trumps-government-shut/#comment-565471">RickA</a>.</p>
<p>Yup, his screed to white supremacists was amazing.</p>
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