Comments on: Ajit Pai, Donald Trump, and the Republicans Killed Net Neturality Today.

By: dhogaza

dhogaza — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 21:16:17 +0000

In reply to MikeN. "though perhaps that was because it was due to how DSL was classified at the time". The laws regulating telephone companies (DSL is delivered over twisted-pair telephone lines) don't apply to cable companies like Comcast.

By: MikeN

MikeN — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 17:44:13 +0000

In reply to MikeN. It's almost entirely illegal pirating of videos, and last I saw(many years ago), this was a very significant percentage of internet traffic.

By: dean

dean — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 03:27:15 +0000

In reply to MikeN. BitTorrent which is the only exception I was aware of and something I’m OK with Why?

By: MikeN

MikeN — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 00:43:54 +0000

Dean, your counterexamples are Madison River which was resolved without net neutrality rules in place, though perhaps that was because it was due to how DSL was classified at the time, Comcast’s blocking of BitTorrent which is the only exception I was aware of and something I’m OK with, and a whole bunch of cell phone issues. Maybe there’s a case to be made, but if people are dumb enough to pay hundreds of dollars a year for a cell phone, I’m not going to care about the deals the cell phone networks make for the data networks.

https://youtu.be/-Fyiv1LvR-A

By: MikeN

MikeN — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 00:36:30 +0000

In reply to MikeN. Douglas Alder, YouTube, FaceBook, Google, Apple, Twitter and others are censoring people for views they don't like. Ajit Pai's video on net neutrality got taken down by YouTube after a bogus copyright complaint that the holder admitted he made because he supported net neutrality. Daily Caller brought attention to it and managed to get the video back up later.

By: Douglas C Alder

Douglas C Alder — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 00:10:59 +0000

In reply to MikeN.

Gee you’d think someone really interested in the answer would do at least a minimum of research

Before Net Neutrality, Real Abuses Happened Consistently (Brief Timeline) https://wccftech.com/net-neutrality-abuses-timeline/ … “

Amongst other atrocities mention in that article there was this

2007 – AT&T censored Pearl Jam because lead singer criticized President Bush.”

Think they won’t interfere in politics again – think again

By: dean

dean — Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:15:18 +0000

In reply to Christopher Winter.

I don’t know that there is any strategy other than

a) To undo all the successful things that happened under the previous president because, of course, he wasn’t white
b) Demonstrate a complete lack of concern for consumers

I don’t even think these morons are stupid enough to believe in the mythical “free market” — but they know their supporters are stupid enough to believe in it.

By: dean

dean — Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:51:23 +0000

In reply to MikeN.

https://www.wired.com/story/what-an-internet-analyst-got-wrong-about-net-neutrality/

By: MikeN

MikeN — Fri, 15 Dec 2017 06:03:09 +0000

In reply to MikeN. Net neutrality did not exist in 2005, so how did the FCC stop them?

By: Christopher Winter

Christopher Winter — Fri, 15 Dec 2017 02:26:24 +0000

Is the strategy to so tangle up the path to redress that most everyone with a grievance drops out?