Comments on: ‘Twas the Night before Indictment …

By: MikeN

MikeN — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 18:54:32 +0000

In reply to MikeN. The new indictment does say 'laundered ' 30 million as CNN reports, but it is not one of the charges.

By: MikeN

MikeN — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 18:43:51 +0000

Actually, I take it back. The indictment is incorrectly called a superseding indictment, but the original charges are still filed in Washington, while the new charges are in Virginia.

By: MikeN

MikeN — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 18:41:30 +0000

In reply to MikeN.

This is a superseding indictment. Money laundering is not one of the counts. It doesn’t mean Manafort is innocent as not registering as a foreign agent is also gone from the counts, as is conspiracy against the US(which I don’t think is a specific crime).
The only mention of money laundering is in an explanation of why it’s important to report all your bank accounts.

By: BBD

BBD — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 18:13:51 +0000

In reply to MikeN.

My argument about Manafort did not commit money laundering is looking good. He is no longer charged with money laundering.

Has something just happened? Link? CNN is reporting money laundering by Manafort (emphasis added):

In the indictment released Thursday, prosecutors allege Manafort and Gates "hid the existence and ownership of the foreign companies and bank accounts" they oversaw and laundered more than $30 million in income.

By: MikeN

MikeN — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 17:50:27 +0000

My argument about Manafort did not commit money laundering is looking good. He is no longer charged with money laundering.

Manafort has nothing to celebrate as he is now facing more jail time on new charges and his partner is looking for a deal.

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By: BBD

BBD — Sun, 05 Nov 2017 13:24:56 +0000

In reply to Jeff Harvey.

Notice how one of the resident right wing dipsticks on here, MikeN, will only discuss the judicial aspects as to what constitutes legal or illegal activities.

And he can't even make that stick. It really is desperate lunacy, arguing black is white in the face of the self-evident.

By: BBD

BBD — Sun, 05 Nov 2017 13:22:06 +0000

In reply to dean. You're 'argument' is incomprehensible bollocks. This is the inevitable end-point of any attempt to defend the indefensible.

By: Jeff Harvey

Jeff Harvey — Sun, 05 Nov 2017 09:01:35 +0000

Notice how one of the resident right wing dipsticks on here, MikeN, will only discuss the judicial aspects as to what constitutes legal or illegal activities. This definition is of course flawed, because under Nazi law persecution of Jews, Romani, Sinti etc. was legal. Laws can be twisted to conform to anything deemed legitimate by those in power or under their constitution.

Trump and his swamp goons are pursuing an agenda that will leave a profoundly harmful legacy on future generations, all for the benefits of a tiny ruling elite. They are systematically destroying regulations aimed to protect the vulnerable in society and the environment, all in the aim of further empowering the corporate sector. It’s criminal, for sure, even if it doesn’t fall under the banner of official law.

By: MikeN

MikeN — Sun, 05 Nov 2017 04:02:02 +0000

In reply to dean. I disagree. It is possible that the act itself is illegal if unreported, in which case 1->2 is moot and money laundering is back on the table. This is separate from 'not reporting is a criminal act', which would not automatically make the activity illegal.