Comments on: Six dead, one remembered, and the $64,000 question. https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/14/six-dead-one-remembered-and-the-64000-question/ Thu, 22 Jun 2023 15:22:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.6 By: MikeN https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/14/six-dead-one-remembered-and-the-64000-question/#comment-455770 Sat, 16 Sep 2017 23:34:21 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24524#comment-455770 I thought it might be the number of murder incidents vs the number of murders, so multiple murders in one incident is changing the numbers. However, it looks like it is multiple murderers.

]]> By: dean https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/14/six-dead-one-remembered-and-the-64000-question/#comment-455769 Sat, 16 Sep 2017 23:25:15 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24524#comment-455769 “I’m guessing a table he created no longer exists”

“The data is there, but hard to link to”

Some of their interfaces can be, to put it mildly, neither intuitive nor user friendly.

]]> By: RickA https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/14/six-dead-one-remembered-and-the-64000-question/#comment-455768 Sat, 16 Sep 2017 23:06:04 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24524#comment-455768 dean:

Sorry about the factfinder link. The data is there, but hard to link to.

As for the 2016 murder total, I added up the numbers from the graph on pg. 28, fig. 4.11. Some of the other tables add up to 117 also. Weird.

]]> By: dean https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/14/six-dead-one-remembered-and-the-64000-question/#comment-455767 Sat, 16 Sep 2017 19:54:36 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24524#comment-455767 From the Minnesota link given by rickA: this is from page 21, top of page, end of section 4.1.1

“Offenses involving murder totaled 100 in 2016 in Minnesota compared to 130 in 2015, a decrease of 23.1 percent”

Rick’s number must have come from the link that no longer works (I’m guessing a table he created no longer exists)

Top of page 50, same report: 114 murders reported, 14 unfounded, actual offenses 100.

Without verification of rickA’s numbers the rest of his stuff is uncertain.

]]> By: dean https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/14/six-dead-one-remembered-and-the-64000-question/#comment-455766 Sat, 16 Sep 2017 19:47:16 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24524#comment-455766 Factfinder link leads to

An error has occurred in American FactFinder

]]> By: RickA https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/14/six-dead-one-remembered-and-the-64000-question/#comment-455765 Sat, 16 Sep 2017 19:27:44 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24524#comment-455765 Source of data:

Murder stats:

https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-divisions/mnjis/Pages/uniform-crime-reports.aspx

Population:

https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?src=bkmk

]]> By: RickA https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/14/six-dead-one-remembered-and-the-64000-question/#comment-455764 Sat, 16 Sep 2017 19:22:25 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24524#comment-455764 Here are the murder stats for Minnesota from 2011 – 2016, by race of offender.

2011 total 83 White 29 34.94% Black 33 39.76%
2012 total 94 White 26 27.66% Black 39 41.49%
2013 total 123 White 36 29.27% Black 48 39.02%
2014 total 90 White 30 33.33% Black 32 35.56%
2015 total 145 White 46 31.72% Black 53 36.55%
2016 total 117 White 49 41.88% Black 40 34.19%

As of July 1, 2016, white % of population of MN 85%, black % 6.2%

When 6.2% of the population causes more than 1/3 of the murders in the state, year after year, people take notice. Black on black crime is a big problem in Minnesota, but these sorts of stats lead to profiling.

]]> By: MikeN https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/14/six-dead-one-remembered-and-the-64000-question/#comment-455763 Sat, 16 Sep 2017 18:39:59 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24524#comment-455763 > Police profile Blacks over Whites. And Blacks resist arrest and injure cops more than Whites.

The second leads to the first. The first can produce the second.

]]> By: Alan Everton https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/14/six-dead-one-remembered-and-the-64000-question/#comment-455762 Sat, 16 Sep 2017 13:38:55 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24524#comment-455762 In their few published efforts to bring scholarly work to this topic, the Center for Policing Equity has come to some preliminary conclusions. Police profile Blacks over Whites. And Blacks resist arrest and injure cops more than Whites. A perfect storm. Not specifically referring to Castile.

]]> By: Gregory Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/14/six-dead-one-remembered-and-the-64000-question/#comment-455761 Sat, 16 Sep 2017 13:24:18 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24524#comment-455761 Dean, this is not a state wide question. This is the St Paul district. It has demographics that are unique compares to districts across the state.

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