Comments on: Upcoming D v R challenges https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/02/upcoming-d-v-r-challenges/ Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:41:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.6 By: MikeN https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/02/upcoming-d-v-r-challenges/#comment-455356 Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:41:12 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24463#comment-455356 Dean’s link was to an argument that Obama’s order is valid, which was split 4-4 at the Supreme Court.

Going from there to say Trump’s order is invalid is a big stretch.
First glance, they appear to be saying ‘This is bad for the country.’

]]> By: RickA https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/02/upcoming-d-v-r-challenges/#comment-455355 Thu, 07 Sep 2017 00:40:12 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24463#comment-455355 MikeN #17:

I agree.

The very grounds Obama used to support his executive action prove that it can be undone by executive action.

There is no standing.

Dean’s link above (#10) relies on prosecutorial discretion. But Trump can also change the priority of prosecutors (if he wants).

Case dismissed!

]]> By: MikeN https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/02/upcoming-d-v-r-challenges/#comment-455354 Wed, 06 Sep 2017 20:28:03 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24463#comment-455354 It will be interesting to see what arguments the various state attorney generals come up with in their lawsuit against Trump’s action. How will they argue he must provide work authorization not provided by Congress, and protection from deportation?

]]> By: cosmicomics https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/02/upcoming-d-v-r-challenges/#comment-455353 Wed, 06 Sep 2017 18:38:29 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24463#comment-455353 Prominent Republicans support a case against “extreme gerrymandering:”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/us/politics/prominent-republicans-urge-supreme-court-to-end-gerrymandering.html

]]> By: MikeN https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/02/upcoming-d-v-r-challenges/#comment-455352 Wed, 06 Sep 2017 13:28:19 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24463#comment-455352 Why couldn’t he do that and call it prosecutorial discretion?

]]> By: dean https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/02/upcoming-d-v-r-challenges/#comment-455351 Wed, 06 Sep 2017 02:24:08 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24463#comment-455351 Christ mikeN, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

]]> By: MikeN https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/02/upcoming-d-v-r-challenges/#comment-455350 Wed, 06 Sep 2017 00:53:07 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24463#comment-455350 These Penn State lawyers present an interesting argument. Trump could use this if he can’t get tax reform passed. He could just issue a memo saying he wouldn’t prosecute people who paid taxes at level X.

]]> By: MikeN https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/02/upcoming-d-v-r-challenges/#comment-455349 Wed, 06 Sep 2017 00:32:40 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24463#comment-455349 >the children in question did not “sneak into” the country.

They entered illegally without sneaking in but in the open, is even worse.

]]> By: Obstreperous Applesauce https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/02/upcoming-d-v-r-challenges/#comment-455348 Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:53:33 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24463#comment-455348 Whelp, how to get yourself a handle on the situation to begin with? I mean some folks say, “We didn’t cross the border, the border crossed us.” Course not literally the case for all them what’s concerned. (You know, gotta say that ’cause some folks can’t handle situations ‘less they’re all full of steely rectitude and self-importance for order, authority, and obedience — ‘specially obedience to them sly, high-up few and their happy pals and kinfolk.)

Now, I am not one of your slick, big city lawyer types, but I kinda like to think of that there border as what they call an ‘easement’ dee-fack-tow like. But that’s just yours truly talkin’ out of turn again. 🙂

I guess it kinda reminds me of this other story in some sort of way, only writ large (what some special folks would call bigly):
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/30/nashville-family-cemetery-access/618090001/

Guess it all depends on how you picturize fairness from way up there on high.

Or not.

]]> By: dean https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/09/02/upcoming-d-v-r-challenges/#comment-455347 Tue, 05 Sep 2017 21:41:47 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24463#comment-455347 It’s easier to trust these people than failed engineer/professional racist rickA.

https://pennstatelaw.psu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/pdfs/Immigrants/LawProfLetterDACAFinal8.13.pdf?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

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