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		By: Tyvor Winn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyvor Winn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2017 02:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re #7: &quot;Almost like that conspiracy was a load of crap.&quot;

Too right.  I attribute it to projection in many cases.  It&#039;s  a common enough psychological factor: people who would cheat to obtain money attribute the same motivation to others.  They don&#039;t seem to understand that scientists don&#039;t get rich on grant money.  It is, you know, spent on the research they get it for and has to be documented and accounted for at the end of a designated time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #7: &#8220;Almost like that conspiracy was a load of crap.&#8221;</p>
<p>Too right.  I attribute it to projection in many cases.  It&#8217;s  a common enough psychological factor: people who would cheat to obtain money attribute the same motivation to others.  They don&#8217;t seem to understand that scientists don&#8217;t get rich on grant money.  It is, you know, spent on the research they get it for and has to be documented and accounted for at the end of a designated time.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2017 16:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s weird, innit. All these claims of the scientists just doing this to get the grant money, because the politicians all want there to be AGW. Yet here we are, politicians trying their damndest to get the scientists to say there&#039;s no AGW and instead having to fire them to stop them saying there&#039;s AGW.

Almost like that conspiracy was a load of crap.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s weird, innit. All these claims of the scientists just doing this to get the grant money, because the politicians all want there to be AGW. Yet here we are, politicians trying their damndest to get the scientists to say there&#8217;s no AGW and instead having to fire them to stop them saying there&#8217;s AGW.</p>
<p>Almost like that conspiracy was a load of crap.</p>
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		By: Tyvor Winn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyvor Winn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2017 16:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Tyvor Winn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyvor Winn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2017 16:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I currently live where many people are science deniers.  Many have read one article or one book written by some non-scientist or a scientist from a non-related field and have irrevocably concluded that __  is bunk (fill in blank with the scientific conclusion of your choice).  In the case of anthropomorphic climate change, denial takes the form of (1) there is no actual climate change, (2) climate change is just normal variation  about a mean, (3) current climate change is natural (or divine) and we can&#039;t do anything about it, or even (4) CO2 is our friend because it makes plants grow better.  

Even with at least two of these mindsets, though, why wouldn&#039;t an advisory council be a good thing to have for, you know, advice from specialists to the science-ignorant population of our Congress and the current President and his cabinet?

Is this the first step in getting rid of NOAA and its scientists?  If you deny science what&#039;s the point in employing scientists?  
It would be easy wouldn&#039;t to purge NOAA, wouldn&#039;t it?  Modern Republicans have always been good at not being able to afford things they don&#039;t like. &quot;Sorry scientists, we must trim the budget.  Don&#039;t let the door hit you in the ass as you leave.  By the way, you can&#039;t publish anything you did or learned while the gov&#039;t employed you.&quot;  With the money saved  taxes can be cut for rich people (including, of course, corporations which are not only now people but superior class people.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently live where many people are science deniers.  Many have read one article or one book written by some non-scientist or a scientist from a non-related field and have irrevocably concluded that __  is bunk (fill in blank with the scientific conclusion of your choice).  In the case of anthropomorphic climate change, denial takes the form of (1) there is no actual climate change, (2) climate change is just normal variation  about a mean, (3) current climate change is natural (or divine) and we can&#8217;t do anything about it, or even (4) CO2 is our friend because it makes plants grow better.  </p>
<p>Even with at least two of these mindsets, though, why wouldn&#8217;t an advisory council be a good thing to have for, you know, advice from specialists to the science-ignorant population of our Congress and the current President and his cabinet?</p>
<p>Is this the first step in getting rid of NOAA and its scientists?  If you deny science what&#8217;s the point in employing scientists?<br />
It would be easy wouldn&#8217;t to purge NOAA, wouldn&#8217;t it?  Modern Republicans have always been good at not being able to afford things they don&#8217;t like. &#8220;Sorry scientists, we must trim the budget.  Don&#8217;t let the door hit you in the ass as you leave.  By the way, you can&#8217;t publish anything you did or learned while the gov&#8217;t employed you.&#8221;  With the money saved  taxes can be cut for rich people (including, of course, corporations which are not only now people but superior class people.)</p>
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		By: Obstreperous Applesauce		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/08/24/us-government-disbands-climate-science-advisory-committee/#comment-455128</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obstreperous Applesauce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In Today&#039;s News
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Today&#8217;s News<br />
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		By: MikeN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 21:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the article is leaving out some important details.  Why do they need a 3 year head start to help &quot; businesses and state and local governments make use of the next national climate assessment.&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the article is leaving out some important details.  Why do they need a 3 year head start to help &#8221; businesses and state and local governments make use of the next national climate assessment.&#8221;?</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 21:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He also stopped a study on health affects of mountain top removal coal mining. That decision was based on &quot;budget issues&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He also stopped a study on health affects of mountain top removal coal mining. That decision was based on &#8220;budget issues&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Gerrit Bogaers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerrit Bogaers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 21:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;Bone-headed Trump&#039; in this case is a very proper way of putting things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Bone-headed Trump&#8217; in this case is a very proper way of putting things.</p>
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