Comments on: These heat waves are global warming connected https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/07/05/these-heat-waves-are-global-warming-connected/ Fri, 07 Jul 2017 23:12:52 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: MikeN https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/07/05/these-heat-waves-are-global-warming-connected/#comment-453851 Fri, 07 Jul 2017 23:12:52 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24301#comment-453851 #21,22 had me scrolling up to see your discussion about Apple having codename Sagan, getting sued, and then switched to BHA for butthead astronomer.

]]> By: SteveP https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/07/05/these-heat-waves-are-global-warming-connected/#comment-453850 Fri, 07 Jul 2017 14:30:59 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24301#comment-453850 Going back to the original thread topic for a moment……The media is ignoring the link between climate change and heat waves. And that seems perfectly natural when you think about how much income the media gets from car ads fort those fossil fuel guzzlers that some of us think contribute to heat waves. Or when you consider that a heat wave in and of itself is a comfortable news story for a local news outlet to cover, but that a complicated, glacially slow, civilization changing train wreck that involves science and math is just not something they have a clue how to play. Consider too that it is just not in the interest of Putin the fossil fuel exporter, or his subordinate, Our Dear Leader, that famous heavyweight wrestler, Little Hand the Gubmint Wrecker, to advance efforts to fight climate change.

You can go back to your side track now.

]]> By: Wow https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/07/05/these-heat-waves-are-global-warming-connected/#comment-453849 Fri, 07 Jul 2017 09:35:51 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24301#comment-453849 Ah, right. All those examples you have given are solid proof.

The only legal one I remember is the Apple who changed their startup sound to “Sosume” in retaliation.

Not that it matters much, because the entire point of the scientific method is the acknowledged fact everyone is liable to the failure. Which is why argument from authority is not a proof,merely an induction, and the fallacy only where the authority is false.

]]> By: Russell https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/07/05/these-heat-waves-are-global-warming-connected/#comment-453848 Fri, 07 Jul 2017 03:28:50 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24301#comment-453848 14
in actual fact all Carl Sagan said was that the arguments against him were frequently not scientific, just polemic in nature.

As one of Carl’s favorite punch lines was Thou shalt not covet thine own hypothesis, It’s too bad that the same can be said of his responses to those not infrequent occasions when he responded to scientific criticism with stonewalling , selective citation , and legal threats .

]]> By: Mark Arnest https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/07/05/these-heat-waves-are-global-warming-connected/#comment-453847 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 20:14:37 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24301#comment-453847 In Einstein’s defense, there’s a crucial “if” in the first paragraph of his introduction, and a serious doubt expressed in the fourth.

]]> By: StevoR https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/07/05/these-heat-waves-are-global-warming-connected/#comment-453846 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 05:57:56 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24301#comment-453846 @11. Wow :

“when he was asked about an imaginary continent (name forgotten)”

Mu.

Yes – and also Lemuria or, at least according to the classic old Mysterious Cities of Gold cartoon, Hiva.

]]> By: StevoR https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/07/05/these-heat-waves-are-global-warming-connected/#comment-453845 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 04:42:11 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24301#comment-453845 @14 Wow :

Remember, Cark Sagan could be quotemined to support Velikovsky when in actual fact all Carl Sagan said was that the arguments against him were frequently not scientific, just polemic in nature.

As you may or may not already know, Carl Sagan actually strongly debunked Velikovsky in considerable detail and a dedicated chapter (7) in his Brocas Brain (1974 /1979) book.

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“To the best of my knowledge, in (Velikovsky’s book -ed)Worlds in Collision, there is not a single correct prediction made with sufficient precision for it to be more than a vague , lucky guess – and there are, as I have tried to point out, a host of demonstrably false claims.”
– Carl Sagan, page156, Brocas Brain , Coronet books, first published 1974, this edition, 1979.

]]> By: StevoR https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/07/05/these-heat-waves-are-global-warming-connected/#comment-453844 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 04:33:00 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24301#comment-453844 As someone living in Australia knowing that heatwaves are actually the most lethal of all extreme weather events who already dreads the heatwaves of summer, this is predictable but grim news indeed.

]]> By: Wow https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/07/05/these-heat-waves-are-global-warming-connected/#comment-453843 Wed, 05 Jul 2017 23:40:41 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24301#comment-453843 Well on a quick read it looks just like he was given a draft (remember he died before it got printed) and its outside his expertise so he might just have read it and accepted it.

Not quite as bad as Newton looking for the Philosopher’s stone.

But yeah, summed up it says “I’ve been given this book idea and it looks like it’s got some great ideas and puts a lot of evidence for his claims”. If it had been about theoretical physics, it might mean something. If it had been before he’d died and could read the final print, it might have found a retraction. Or might not.

]]> By: dean https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/07/05/these-heat-waves-are-global-warming-connected/#comment-453842 Wed, 05 Jul 2017 23:03:18 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24301#comment-453842 Someone wasted time and internet to put the stuff online. Here it is, with forward from Einstein.

https://archive.org/stream/eathsshiftingcru033562mbp

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