Comments on: You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. Unless you live in Florida

By: Tyvor Winn

Tyvor Winn — Fri, 07 Jul 2017 21:58:46 +0000

RE: “it’s illegal to teach creationism in public schools”

Court cases take a long time. And let’s not forget that at one time it was illegal to sell alcoholic beverages in the U. S. too but the demand was still there and the law was flouted just about everywhere. Keep in mind that there are many, many school districts in the U. S. and many, many creationists, including many elementary and high school teachers.

The only bright spot I can see in the latest creationist ploy in Florida is that once evolution and AGW are pushed out of the schools, they become forbidden knowledge and thus more attractive to teenagers in their rebellious years.

In the somewhat analogous case of history, the subject became more interesting to me when I found how much U. S. history had been left out — mostly the parts that reflected most poorly on us.

By: Lenny Flank

Lenny Flank — Wed, 05 Jul 2017 18:30:39 +0000

I thought tjhis was already settled by Federal law in at least a half-dozen court cases–it’s illegal to teach creationism in public schools. Period. And the Federal Constitution supercedes any state law.

Sounds like the creationuts are on their way to losing yet another court case………..

By: Wow

Wow — Tue, 04 Jul 2017 21:14:23 +0000

I mean, honestly, they probably will do that. If only because if you managed to get the officer changed, you still have to get rid of the panel, who were set up to just replace them with a carbon copy. Therefore undoing this cluster requires beating two moral majority ™ busybodies who will paint you as satan’s tinder fuckbuddy when it comes to getting support in the community. Pretty much ensuring failure for decades.

By: Wow

Wow — Tue, 04 Jul 2017 21:11:03 +0000

Yeah. Probably.

Hey, maybe they’ll have a tribunal set up so you can complain to them about the officer.

And it’ll be the same one who assigned the officer, so you go in knowing your complaint is basically to them “You done fucked it up.”.

By: unbiasedguy

unbiasedguy — Tue, 04 Jul 2017 19:46:50 +0000

@Wow:
Yes. You send a complaint to the unbiased hearing officer. If he deems himself biased, he will be removed from office.

By: Wow

Wow — Tue, 04 Jul 2017 08:50:08 +0000

Someone asked a good question on slashdot on this subject. Is there a process to complain about bias in the “unbiased officer”?

Because we know that if the office holder was not telling them that they had to teach creationism as an alternative, they’d never be put in the job in the first place.

So if someone complains about “In God We Trust” or whatever, the officer will ignore them. If someone complains that only xtian creationism was being mentioned and that the other 6000 myths needed adding, this would be ignored. Or if the complete lack of any evidence and disagreement of every piece of evidence we have with creationism or even ID were brought up or asked to be included, this would not happen.

Because they’d pick the right biased person.

So is there any process to get the biased person chucked out?

By: Wow

Wow — Tue, 04 Jul 2017 08:09:37 +0000

That would be annexation of US territory by Oceania. Or the ccean, anyway.

By: StevoR

StevoR — Tue, 04 Jul 2017 04:11:00 +0000

Wow. (Obscenities) this is bad. (Understatement.)

@2.Bruce Jensen : Yeah, not so sure about the okay part given the implications for massive human suffering and loss involved – and the implications for so much of the rest of the globe including places like Bangladesh that have done a whole lot less to deserve it.

By: Bruce Jensen

Bruce Jensen — Tue, 04 Jul 2017 02:30:06 +0000

That’s OK – Florida won’t be a state much longer anyway, as Neptune takes over and annexes it to Atlantis.

By: Doug Alder

Doug Alder — Mon, 03 Jul 2017 18:23:28 +0000

Florida – Quelle surprise /s