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	Comments on: Michael Mann Endorses Rebecca Otto for Governor of Minnesota	</title>
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		By: Gerrit Bogaers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerrit Bogaers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2017 14:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/pinkster

Pinkster: American-English, from New Netherland, Pentecost]]></description>
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<p>Pinkster: American-English, from New Netherland, Pentecost</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2017 08:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No, Greg, I think maybe pink should be worn on that day to show support for the idea of pinksters the world over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Greg, I think maybe pink should be worn on that day to show support for the idea of pinksters the world over.</p>
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		By: Gerrit Bogaers		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/06/05/michael-mann-endorses-rebecca-otto-for-governor-of-minnesota/#comment-452659</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerrit Bogaers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2017 06:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, Pentecost in Dutch is Pinksteren. With Pinksteren (Pentecost) we celebrate on Pinkster Sunday and Pinkster Monday  the holy days of spiritual enlightenment. A daily prayer for spiritual enlightenment for peace and mutual respect and safety, togetherness could refresh us all. Laren  NH, Tuesday 6th. June 2017, 8.39 AM DT.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Pentecost in Dutch is Pinksteren. With Pinksteren (Pentecost) we celebrate on Pinkster Sunday and Pinkster Monday  the holy days of spiritual enlightenment. A daily prayer for spiritual enlightenment for peace and mutual respect and safety, togetherness could refresh us all. Laren  NH, Tuesday 6th. June 2017, 8.39 AM DT.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/06/05/michael-mann-endorses-rebecca-otto-for-governor-of-minnesota/#comment-452658</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2017 19:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is Pinkster Monday?]]></description>
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		By: G. Bogaers		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/06/05/michael-mann-endorses-rebecca-otto-for-governor-of-minnesota/#comment-452657</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G. Bogaers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2017 18:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg, my wife and I visited Canada in July, August 2016 and had many conversations with Canadians about the USA and its states about Lake Superior and other great lakes. We are sure that the overwhelming majority of Canada supports Rebecca Otto for governor in 2018. The politics of greed and pollution must end. It&#039;s in the interest of all people. Laren NH, Pinkster Monday 5th. June 2017, 20.17 PM Dutch Time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, my wife and I visited Canada in July, August 2016 and had many conversations with Canadians about the USA and its states about Lake Superior and other great lakes. We are sure that the overwhelming majority of Canada supports Rebecca Otto for governor in 2018. The politics of greed and pollution must end. It&#8217;s in the interest of all people. Laren NH, Pinkster Monday 5th. June 2017, 20.17 PM Dutch Time.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/06/05/michael-mann-endorses-rebecca-otto-for-governor-of-minnesota/#comment-452656</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2017 12:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PS did you mean &quot;disparate&quot; rather than &quot;desparate&quot;. The former means &quot;differing&quot; the second means &quot;frightened into action&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS did you mean &#8220;disparate&#8221; rather than &#8220;desparate&#8221;. The former means &#8220;differing&#8221; the second means &#8220;frightened into action&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/06/05/michael-mann-endorses-rebecca-otto-for-governor-of-minnesota/#comment-452655</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2017 12:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bernie managed to build consensus and bipartisanship when he got legislation onto the floor.

The problem has been that ever since Clinton&#039;s win with Republican Lite and pre-concilliation the democrats haven&#039;t as a party supported standing for what you want. And when you&#039;re not willing to fight for what you want, what point is there for the opposition to care about your attempts to build together? They are going to rationally decide not to bother and even go further away knowing that eventually they will get what they wanted and the added bonus of blaming someone else for the failures (because by moving away, they can always blame the failure as the result of not having those features they made up to demand).

To get a meeting of minds, you have to be willing to stand up for your own.

Bernie did.
From your reports, Rebecca does.
Obama didn&#039;t.
Hilary didn&#039;t even try. Partly because she never had the chance to really try, but the limited opportunities were indicative.

But by being willing to hold for what you want, you get the opposition willing to meet you part way, on the off-chance you manage to get 100% of what you wanted if they don&#039;t give ground and you then ignore them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernie managed to build consensus and bipartisanship when he got legislation onto the floor.</p>
<p>The problem has been that ever since Clinton&#8217;s win with Republican Lite and pre-concilliation the democrats haven&#8217;t as a party supported standing for what you want. And when you&#8217;re not willing to fight for what you want, what point is there for the opposition to care about your attempts to build together? They are going to rationally decide not to bother and even go further away knowing that eventually they will get what they wanted and the added bonus of blaming someone else for the failures (because by moving away, they can always blame the failure as the result of not having those features they made up to demand).</p>
<p>To get a meeting of minds, you have to be willing to stand up for your own.</p>
<p>Bernie did.<br />
From your reports, Rebecca does.<br />
Obama didn&#8217;t.<br />
Hilary didn&#8217;t even try. Partly because she never had the chance to really try, but the limited opportunities were indicative.</p>
<p>But by being willing to hold for what you want, you get the opposition willing to meet you part way, on the off-chance you manage to get 100% of what you wanted if they don&#8217;t give ground and you then ignore them.</p>
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