Comments on: The Comey Firing Letters https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/05/09/the-comey-firing-letters/ Thu, 11 May 2017 09:49:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.6 By: Wow https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/05/09/the-comey-firing-letters/#comment-461923 Thu, 11 May 2017 09:49:03 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24070#comment-461923 “And Greg’s “if you criticise Clinton, you are a Trump supporter” ”

And was that said? No. Was that implied? Well YOU had to put the implication in it, because, by definition, implication is not in the text.

So ask if that was what was implied.

]]> By: Wow https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/05/09/the-comey-firing-letters/#comment-461922 Thu, 11 May 2017 09:47:15 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24070#comment-461922 “It doesn’t matter how many emails contained classified information,”

Yes it does. There’s no “zero tolerance” policy. If you want one, lobby to get one. There isn’t one now, though.

“She breached security. This is absolutely clear.”

No, that is not absilutely clear. For a start, every Sec of State has done the same before. It’s standard practice. Secondly, there’s nothing to say they were classified at the time of being on the unsecured service. Third, unless egregious, this is just a warning offence.

What is clear is that you want it to be clear. So get the law changed.

IMO it should be absolutely illegal. But, and this is likely where it will never be made illegal, it would have to be fairly and evenly applied. So leaks of security even from the POTUS would be similarly jail term sackable offences, piercing the immunity of the position,and not absolvable by being a non-salaried non-government “advisory” position.

Hillary was a bad candidate for her policy stance, not because of her email server.

Stop lumping them together to make a convenient (if illicit) target)

]]> By: dean https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/05/09/the-comey-firing-letters/#comment-461921 Thu, 11 May 2017 01:19:38 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24070#comment-461921 Maybe – never clearly shown.

Also not relevant to the consequences of Trump’s latest actions.

]]> By: Craig Thomas https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/05/09/the-comey-firing-letters/#comment-461920 Thu, 11 May 2017 00:49:59 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24070#comment-461920 She breached security. This is absolutely clear.

]]> By: dean https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/05/09/the-comey-firing-letters/#comment-461919 Thu, 11 May 2017 00:04:06 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24070#comment-461919 Your asinine “if I did… I’d get …” Bullshit is tiresome Craig.

]]> By: Craig Thomas https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/05/09/the-comey-firing-letters/#comment-461918 Wed, 10 May 2017 23:24:34 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24070#comment-461918 It doesn’t matter how many emails contained classified information, all it takes is one.
The fact is that Clinton did far more than just “break rules”. She put classified information on a system that was of a far lower classification.
So while she wasn’t overtly conspiring with Moscow to assist a Russian intelligence scheme, she made deliberate actions which greatly assisted Russian intelligence.
Where *I* work, if I put classified documents on an unclassified network, my security clearance would be cancelled, I would be fired, and the AFP would be asked to investigate with a view to prosecuting me.
Clinton’s behaviour was of a far, far lower standard than needs to be the minimum standard for any public servant.

And Greg’s “if you criticise Clinton, you are a Trump supporter” is the kind of manichean shallow-thinking that Fox News relies on.

]]> By: Wow https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/05/09/the-comey-firing-letters/#comment-461917 Wed, 10 May 2017 19:17:13 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24070#comment-461917 “Everyone on here hates Trump. So much disrespect for the office of President. ”

Uh, for most, the hate for trumpaloon is BECAUSE of the *respect* they have for the office of president.

]]> By: Wow https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/05/09/the-comey-firing-letters/#comment-461916 Wed, 10 May 2017 19:14:56 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24070#comment-461916 No, the lie was that they were lots of emails that were classified. Which wasn’t said, but implied by the fact of the statement the claim was in answer to.

And never cleared up.

Hilary can send 200 billion emails to her husband’s laptop, if it has the disk space. Not a crime.

And, no, they weren’t a backup. What do you think “cc” means? Ever get sent an email “FYI”?

]]> By: MikeN https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/05/09/the-comey-firing-letters/#comment-461915 Wed, 10 May 2017 19:11:48 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24070#comment-461915 She did forward huge numbers of e-mails to her husband’s laptop. The lie is that only a small number were for printing. The large number of e-mails that Comey referred was when she sent a backup. How do you think 655,000 e-mails got there?

]]> By: dean https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/05/09/the-comey-firing-letters/#comment-461914 Wed, 10 May 2017 15:33:22 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=24070#comment-461914 Comey’s lie about emails concerned his statement that Clinton’s aide had forwarded huge numbers of emails to her husband — the FBI released a statement specifically saying that didn’t happen.

The concerning thing here is that we are now learning that Trump asked Sessions, who had taken himself out of the Russia investigation, to manufacture a reason for firing Comey.

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