Comments on: Honestly, New York Times? You are entitled to publish all the opinions, but not to endorse your own facts!

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By: Walt Garage

Walt Garage — Tue, 02 May 2017 02:38:02 +0000

The NYT has spent a LOT of time in the past chasing the Clintons, DESPERATE to find something illegal that they could hang on them and chasing every stupid rumor that came along.

The NYT was a cheerleader for Dubya in the lead up to the Iraq war.

I don’t see how this climate change denialism is any different.

By: Tyvor Winn

Tyvor Winn — Mon, 01 May 2017 22:52:10 +0000

#1: Shouldn’t Greg’s or anyone’s response to what somewhat writes in a newspaper depend on what kind of thing was written. There’s a big difference between not liking what someone writes in a newspaper as an opinion and what someone writes as a fact.

Suppose it were a piece on the sports pages and someone claimed that some player did not belong in the Hall of Fame because his lifetime batting average was only so and so and his RBIs totaled only so and so but the writer’s numbers were just plain wrong?

Should that writer just be just challenged in a letter citing the right numbers or should he be be challenged as being unworthy of the job he holds? Is there any adequate excuse for getting freely available facts wrong to further your own agenda?

#6 Very good. I wish I’d thought of that.

By: Wow

Wow — Mon, 01 May 2017 21:03:10 +0000

“Greg, instead of writing a letter asking them to fire the person who wrote something you don’t like,”

Ah, so he doesn’t have freedom of his speech, is it? How about you take a sip of shut-up juice instead?

By: Eric Lund

Eric Lund — Mon, 01 May 2017 19:26:08 +0000

“All the News That’s Fit to Print”

The New York Times does indeed make that claim.

The reality is closer to, “All the News That Fits, We Print”.

By: Mentifex (Arthur T. Murray)

Mentifex (Arthur T. Murray) — Mon, 01 May 2017 19:12:36 +0000

I have subscribed to only two newspapers in my entire life, and they both had stirring slogans on their front page. The one I bought today at Starbucks for $2.50 says, “All the News That’s Fit to Print” and the other that I obtained by mail dirt-cheap from Victor Kamkin’s said (in a foreign language): “Proletarians of All Countries, Unite Yourselves!” The White House says that my New York Times is a “failing newspaper,” but I buy it every day anyway, because I have been addicted to it since 1989. The other newspaper, Pravda, was extremely boring except in times of world crisis, so I often threw whole stacks of unread Pravdas in the Dumpster at my U.S. Army duty station in Germany. Some sergeant retrieved them from the Dumpster and laid them on the desk of the commanding colonel of the 101st Ordnance Battalion and said that I must be some kind of Commie infiltrator, but the colonel had no objection to my reading Pravda. Today’s Mon.1.MAY.2017 New York Times has a column in which Charles M. Blow says, “Trump has the intellectual depth of a coat of paint.” Where else can we get such pithy writing in this day and age? http://ai.neocities.org/NYT.html is my new web-page where I intend to answer back to the “failing New York Times”. Tomorrow on Tuesday I get to read the weekly Science Times. So maybe the NYT is a terrible, biased newspaper — remember what they did to Dr. David Baltimore? — but I still regard it, among all those awful newspapers world-wide, as the best of the lot.

By: SteveP

SteveP — Mon, 01 May 2017 16:50:25 +0000

Bret Stephens is just exercising his right to write in a post truth (PT) style. He is being PT , that’s all. In a world where the ability to create simulacrums of reality increasingly exceeds the ability of perceivers to discern real from fake, is it not unreasonable to expect that smirk faced punks will take advantage of the zeitgeist to create and sell snake oil? What we are seeing here is just the the interface between PC and PT. So I suggest that we give Bret Stephens and the Gray Lady some slack. That way, when they use up their slack and hit the end of their rope, the abrupt change in momentum will be all the more dramatic and entertaining to watch!

Also, i think that we have to be aware of the fact that, even though scientists have been increasingly marginalized since the time of Ronnie Raygun, there is still, amongst the non-sense crowd, a lot of wistful Science envy . Lacking knowledge of the rules of the physics game, or knowledge of the depths of their ignorance, they wade into the fray and think that they are scoring victory after victory, when, in fact, they are just immortalizing their stupidity in patented Dunning Krueger fossil cement.

By: Eric Lund

Eric Lund — Mon, 01 May 2017 16:20:48 +0000

that editorial staff is acting unprofessionally and should probably look for a job at one of those entertainment outlets that disguises itself as “news.”

They already work for such an organization. It’s called the New York Times.

By: Obstreperous Applesauce

Obstreperous Applesauce — Mon, 01 May 2017 16:20:07 +0000

NYT: The Tabloid of Record

So, since we’re blurring the lines between good and bad journalism, why stop at the OpEd pages? Why stop at all?

For some helpful inspiration, see how the pros do it by studying actual tabloid headlines from the past:

– Sadaam and Osama Adopt Shaved Ape Baby
– Satan’s Skull Found in New Mexico
– Farmer Shoots 23-Pound Grasshopper
– Bigfoot Kept Lumberjack as Love Slave
– Man’s Head Explodes in Barber’s Chair
– Gordon Ramsay Sex Dwarf Eaten by Badger
– Dick Cheney Is a Robot…

Wait, forget that last one. Anyway, this list should be enough to serve as a template.

By: MikeN

MikeN — Mon, 01 May 2017 16:16:07 +0000

Greg, instead of writing a letter asking them to fire the person who wrote something you don’t like, why not just write a letter challenging the points made? I imagine the editors of letters would be eager to run that one.