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		By: Cynthia Watson		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/global-warming-is-warming/#comment-461061</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 16:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Climate change has been hugely increase by humans. Climate change caused by human sources can be reduce if we can all educate ourselves and learn ways to help slow it down. At this point it is difficult to actually remove the GHGs, but we can reduce them so in the future the levels could possibly drop. However, if we don&#039;t do anything about it, we will reach a point of no return. It&#039;s sad that some people will only realize this issue when we have many species of animals going extinct or some places will be too hot or too cold for proper crops to be grown and food resources will diminish along with breathable air. At what point will we realize this is an issue, when it&#039;s too late?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate change has been hugely increase by humans. Climate change caused by human sources can be reduce if we can all educate ourselves and learn ways to help slow it down. At this point it is difficult to actually remove the GHGs, but we can reduce them so in the future the levels could possibly drop. However, if we don&#8217;t do anything about it, we will reach a point of no return. It&#8217;s sad that some people will only realize this issue when we have many species of animals going extinct or some places will be too hot or too cold for proper crops to be grown and food resources will diminish along with breathable air. At what point will we realize this is an issue, when it&#8217;s too late?</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NOTE:

Much of this conversation is more about the topic at a different post, in which I&#039;ve just embedded a conversation with S.R. himself, so some of you may want to check this out: 

http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2017/03/28/global-warming-has-and-will-continue-to-cause-extreme-weather-new-research/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOTE:</p>
<p>Much of this conversation is more about the topic at a different post, in which I&#8217;ve just embedded a conversation with S.R. himself, so some of you may want to check this out: </p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2017/03/28/global-warming-has-and-will-continue-to-cause-extreme-weather-new-research/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2017/03/28/global-warming-has-and-will-continue-to-cause-extreme-weather-new-research/</a></p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/global-warming-is-warming/#comment-461059</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Omega Centuri:

&quot;The reason is that the average global temperature does vary throughout the year, and the anomaly is calculated relative to the monthly average. This is just because of different hemispheric heat storage ( less area is ocean in the north), but also the earths orbit is noncircular and at the closest (roughly January 4 IRC) sunlight is 7% stronger then at the furthest part of the orbit.&quot;

Nope.  

The anomalies are used primarily for reasons I didn&#039;t mention because it is esoteric and off topic and I didn&#039;t want to get into it. But it has to do with the basic fact that all &quot;direct&quot; measurements are actually relative (and thus, measurements of anomalies) unless all conditions and instruments are perfect.  They aren&#039;t, so anomalies are use. If the measurement devices had all been placed by scientists from 2010 going back in time and enforcing standards, we might not use anomalies, but these temperature records are assembled from diverse sources. 

Regarding the seasonal variation, no also. The northern summer is actually the warmest part of the year, on average, over many decades, and it is simply not known why. The difference is very small, and not considered important enough to launch a major research project to investigate. In my view, it is most likely a simple calibration issue, since the southern temperatures are based more on sea, and also, the southern hemisphere is less well measured.  The difference is such that a small problem with measuring Africa could explain all of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omega Centuri:</p>
<p>&#8220;The reason is that the average global temperature does vary throughout the year, and the anomaly is calculated relative to the monthly average. This is just because of different hemispheric heat storage ( less area is ocean in the north), but also the earths orbit is noncircular and at the closest (roughly January 4 IRC) sunlight is 7% stronger then at the furthest part of the orbit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nope.  </p>
<p>The anomalies are used primarily for reasons I didn&#8217;t mention because it is esoteric and off topic and I didn&#8217;t want to get into it. But it has to do with the basic fact that all &#8220;direct&#8221; measurements are actually relative (and thus, measurements of anomalies) unless all conditions and instruments are perfect.  They aren&#8217;t, so anomalies are use. If the measurement devices had all been placed by scientists from 2010 going back in time and enforcing standards, we might not use anomalies, but these temperature records are assembled from diverse sources. </p>
<p>Regarding the seasonal variation, no also. The northern summer is actually the warmest part of the year, on average, over many decades, and it is simply not known why. The difference is very small, and not considered important enough to launch a major research project to investigate. In my view, it is most likely a simple calibration issue, since the southern temperatures are based more on sea, and also, the southern hemisphere is less well measured.  The difference is such that a small problem with measuring Africa could explain all of it.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/global-warming-is-warming/#comment-461058</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2017 23:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where do you get the idea you have to say it is this blog when you&#039;re posting on this blog?

Burbling insanity again, &quot;mike&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do you get the idea you have to say it is this blog when you&#8217;re posting on this blog?</p>
<p>Burbling insanity again, &#8220;mike&#8221;?</p>
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		By: mark		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/global-warming-is-warming/#comment-461057</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if G. Bogaers (#15) has read &lt;i&gt;Expanding Land Theory: Origin of the Continents&lt;/i&gt;, by Dorothy Parker Farrell (1971). It was a highly amusing tale of continents sliding out from beneath the mountains while the Earth&#039;s magnetic field was off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if G. Bogaers (#15) has read <i>Expanding Land Theory: Origin of the Continents</i>, by Dorothy Parker Farrell (1971). It was a highly amusing tale of continents sliding out from beneath the mountains while the Earth&#8217;s magnetic field was off.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/global-warming-is-warming/#comment-461056</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2017 16:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t say it was this blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say it was this blog.</p>
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		By: Li D		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/global-warming-is-warming/#comment-461055</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Li D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Greg. Thanks for the update.
Its easy to feel rather maudlin about it all.
The evidence is so in your face clear.
And although theres some clear movement
and action on an international level, it dosnt
seem urgent enough.
I can see a comparison with nukes through the decades.
Everyone knows MAD is catastrophic. 
There was and is some international movement
and action. But not to the extent warrented by the threat.
Signatories to the NPT really aint following through in a
whole hearted way. The general public seems
to feel a level of ambiguity and apathy  about it.
I fear similar apathy with climate change because
of this precedent.
I appreciate that you and other contributers to Scienceblogs
keep pushing the issue. Christ i hope its not in vain.

All you deniers can go fuck your selves. You are seriously
not contributing in a healthy skeptical way that advances 
science or humanity or the health of the biosphere.
Being contrary just for the sake of it in an uneducated manner
shows yas for the 4 year old mindset yas continually
exhibit.

Li D 
Australia]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Greg. Thanks for the update.<br />
Its easy to feel rather maudlin about it all.<br />
The evidence is so in your face clear.<br />
And although theres some clear movement<br />
and action on an international level, it dosnt<br />
seem urgent enough.<br />
I can see a comparison with nukes through the decades.<br />
Everyone knows MAD is catastrophic.<br />
There was and is some international movement<br />
and action. But not to the extent warrented by the threat.<br />
Signatories to the NPT really aint following through in a<br />
whole hearted way. The general public seems<br />
to feel a level of ambiguity and apathy  about it.<br />
I fear similar apathy with climate change because<br />
of this precedent.<br />
I appreciate that you and other contributers to Scienceblogs<br />
keep pushing the issue. Christ i hope its not in vain.</p>
<p>All you deniers can go fuck your selves. You are seriously<br />
not contributing in a healthy skeptical way that advances<br />
science or humanity or the health of the biosphere.<br />
Being contrary just for the sake of it in an uneducated manner<br />
shows yas for the 4 year old mindset yas continually<br />
exhibit.</p>
<p>Li D<br />
Australia</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/global-warming-is-warming/#comment-461054</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2017 08:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PS I take it that you won&#039;t be commenting on any one else&#039;s posts either since that reason does not exclude one single poster here.

Nice to know that you&#039;re going to shut the fuck up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS I take it that you won&#8217;t be commenting on any one else&#8217;s posts either since that reason does not exclude one single poster here.</p>
<p>Nice to know that you&#8217;re going to shut the fuck up.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/global-warming-is-warming/#comment-461053</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2017 08:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The end result would be that you get banned at a blog&quot;

Not really. I don&#039;t think greg knows great boogers nor hypocritical about letting some BS on and on but not others.

This isn&#039;t WUWT, you know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The end result would be that you get banned at a blog&#8221;</p>
<p>Not really. I don&#8217;t think greg knows great boogers nor hypocritical about letting some BS on and on but not others.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t WUWT, you know.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/global-warming-is-warming/#comment-461052</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2017 00:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#062;why aren’t you commenting on great booger’s post?

The end result would be that you get banned at a blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;why aren’t you commenting on great booger’s post?</p>
<p>The end result would be that you get banned at a blog.</p>
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