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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/democrats-do-these-things/#comment-461024</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, good song. Not Elvis Costello&#039;s best, but got a good beat line.

Ghost Town is your party&#039;s future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, good song. Not Elvis Costello&#8217;s best, but got a good beat line.</p>
<p>Ghost Town is your party&#8217;s future.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/democrats-do-these-things/#comment-461023</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2017 23:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg, write all you want, but Chelsea is the future of your party.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, write all you want, but Chelsea is the future of your party.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/democrats-do-these-things/#comment-461022</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2017 15:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;How is it possible that after I point out that you are trying to change the definition of racism like an 8th grade child, your response is to try to change the definition of racism?&quot;

The same way it was possible for him to ignore my explanation of the survey results, and a previous explanation (different thread) of why another thing he claimed was not supported by the analysis.

When he (and rickA) decide they don&#039;t like the results of some study, but they don&#039;t have any evidence with which they can refute it, they fall back on &quot;the interpretation is all subject to opinion and mine is as good as yours&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How is it possible that after I point out that you are trying to change the definition of racism like an 8th grade child, your response is to try to change the definition of racism?&#8221;</p>
<p>The same way it was possible for him to ignore my explanation of the survey results, and a previous explanation (different thread) of why another thing he claimed was not supported by the analysis.</p>
<p>When he (and rickA) decide they don&#8217;t like the results of some study, but they don&#8217;t have any evidence with which they can refute it, they fall back on &#8220;the interpretation is all subject to opinion and mine is as good as yours&#8221;.</p>
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		By: zebra		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/democrats-do-these-things/#comment-461021</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2017 10:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MikeN #70,

How is it possible that after I point out that you are trying to change the definition of racism like an 8th grade child, your response is to try to change the definition of racism?

That&#039;s more like a 3rd grade child, I guess.

Look, I tried to discuss this somewhat politely to make all the science aspects clear (and see if people really did have suggestions about what the Dems could do). 

But I will leave you to the tender ministrations of Wow and others less polite since they seem to have you pegged.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MikeN #70,</p>
<p>How is it possible that after I point out that you are trying to change the definition of racism like an 8th grade child, your response is to try to change the definition of racism?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s more like a 3rd grade child, I guess.</p>
<p>Look, I tried to discuss this somewhat politely to make all the science aspects clear (and see if people really did have suggestions about what the Dems could do). </p>
<p>But I will leave you to the tender ministrations of Wow and others less polite since they seem to have you pegged.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/democrats-do-these-things/#comment-461020</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;mike&quot;, your reveal that you&#039;re a racist bigot is certainly unsurprising to anyone here..

(you know it became easier since both mike and dick showed me how it wasn&#039;t necessary to read anything before talking about it. if ever they complain, it&#039;s just a matter of opinion of what they wrote!).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;mike&#8221;, your reveal that you&#8217;re a racist bigot is certainly unsurprising to anyone here..</p>
<p>(you know it became easier since both mike and dick showed me how it wasn&#8217;t necessary to read anything before talking about it. if ever they complain, it&#8217;s just a matter of opinion of what they wrote!).</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/democrats-do-these-things/#comment-461019</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zebra, you are the one who asked if Democrats should go for a more racist platform.  The article could just as easily have said Democratic voters more motivated by racism than authoritarianism. Yet the article assumed racism for certain positions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zebra, you are the one who asked if Democrats should go for a more racist platform.  The article could just as easily have said Democratic voters more motivated by racism than authoritarianism. Yet the article assumed racism for certain positions.</p>
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		By: zebra		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/democrats-do-these-things/#comment-461018</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zebra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MikeN,

&quot;the study presupposes&quot;

But the study isn&#039;t trying to decide &quot;what&#039;s the definition of racism?&quot; 

The study is trying to decide if D voters and R voters in the presidential election have different views on what is called &quot;race&quot;.

So, &quot;presuppose&quot; makes no sense as you are using it. 

You are doing exactly what I said: 8th grade definition argument. Racism is &quot;bad&quot;, so you want to redefine what it means so it doesn&#039;t apply to your identity group. That&#039;s what 8th graders do; it isn&#039;t science.

Science is the numbers that were produced; it doesn&#039;t matter if you call one set of answers &quot;racism&quot; or &quot;kacism&quot;.

If you can&#039;t get this simple fact, you have no business discussing science. (Or logical fallacies.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MikeN,</p>
<p>&#8220;the study presupposes&#8221;</p>
<p>But the study isn&#8217;t trying to decide &#8220;what&#8217;s the definition of racism?&#8221; </p>
<p>The study is trying to decide if D voters and R voters in the presidential election have different views on what is called &#8220;race&#8221;.</p>
<p>So, &#8220;presuppose&#8221; makes no sense as you are using it. </p>
<p>You are doing exactly what I said: 8th grade definition argument. Racism is &#8220;bad&#8221;, so you want to redefine what it means so it doesn&#8217;t apply to your identity group. That&#8217;s what 8th graders do; it isn&#8217;t science.</p>
<p>Science is the numbers that were produced; it doesn&#8217;t matter if you call one set of answers &#8220;racism&#8221; or &#8220;kacism&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t get this simple fact, you have no business discussing science. (Or logical fallacies.)</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/democrats-do-these-things/#comment-461017</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if &quot;mike&quot;, along with his penchant for MAMIDs (Middle Aged Men In Diapers) was previously on the OJ Simpson trial?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if &#8220;mike&#8221;, along with his penchant for MAMIDs (Middle Aged Men In Diapers) was previously on the OJ Simpson trial?</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/democrats-do-these-things/#comment-461016</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[re 64, if you want to ask dick for pics of him in his infant outfit, just PM him, don&#039;t ask in public. Sheesh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 64, if you want to ask dick for pics of him in his infant outfit, just PM him, don&#8217;t ask in public. Sheesh.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/14/democrats-do-these-things/#comment-461015</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2017 22:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Clueless, thy name is mikeN.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clueless, thy name is mikeN.</p>
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