Comments on: How the IPCC becomes a climate change denial tool https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/10/how-the-ipcc-becomes-a-climate-change-denial-tool/ Thu, 29 Nov 2018 00:42:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: Out of the gate, Bret Stephens punches the hippies, says dumb things – Greg Laden's Blog https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/10/how-the-ipcc-becomes-a-climate-change-denial-tool/#comment-460850 Sat, 29 Apr 2017 01:40:48 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23932#comment-460850 […] or two earlier is out of date in 2017, in a dynamic, rapidly changing field like climate change. As I note here, it is becoming increasingly common for climate science deniers to slip this one past. The IPCC […]

]]> By: Wow https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/10/how-the-ipcc-becomes-a-climate-change-denial-tool/#comment-460849 Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:41:29 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23932#comment-460849 its called “lying by omission”

]]> By: Marco https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/10/how-the-ipcc-becomes-a-climate-change-denial-tool/#comment-460848 Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:24:26 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23932#comment-460848 Saying you cited/referenced a credible source is a poor defense, unless you can show that the source in question indeed fully supports what you say.

And then there’s the selective quotation…to take a not-completely-madeup example: If a paper says “There is no statistically significant trend in global drought, but there are significant trends in several parts of the world”, and you claim “There is no statistically significant trend in global drought [ref paper]” and leave out the second part, you *correctly* referenced your claim, but by leaving out the rest you are also potentially deceptive.

]]> By: Wow https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/10/how-the-ipcc-becomes-a-climate-change-denial-tool/#comment-460847 Tue, 18 Apr 2017 07:35:37 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23932#comment-460847 “Seems pretty clear to me.”

That, however, is merely your “opinion”.

Right?

]]> By: Wow https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/10/how-the-ipcc-becomes-a-climate-change-denial-tool/#comment-460846 Tue, 18 Apr 2017 07:34:38 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23932#comment-460846 Moreover, were they accepting every claim in the IPCC report and agreeing with the ranges and assessment?

No.

]]> By: Wow https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/10/how-the-ipcc-becomes-a-climate-change-denial-tool/#comment-460845 Tue, 18 Apr 2017 07:33:15 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23932#comment-460845 “How could Pielke think this was Greg Laden calling him a denier?”

Because he’s a loon?

Or was this a trick question?

Because it’s calling someone an incorrectly labelled “expert witness”, i.e. not an expert.

But unless he was the only witness they ever produced (ir wasn’t), then the only thing making the connection is his own assessment of himself.

Because, perhaps, it meant Mad Lord Monckfish who was trotted out as an “expert witness” but is a useless potty peer.

]]> By: MikeN https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/10/how-the-ipcc-becomes-a-climate-change-denial-tool/#comment-460844 Tue, 18 Apr 2017 05:41:23 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23932#comment-460844 #108 Sheesh, Rick.

]]> By: RickA https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/10/how-the-ipcc-becomes-a-climate-change-denial-tool/#comment-460843 Tue, 18 Apr 2017 02:09:00 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23932#comment-460843 Sorry – not Trenberth – I meant John Cristy.

]]> By: RickA https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/10/how-the-ipcc-becomes-a-climate-change-denial-tool/#comment-460842 Tue, 18 Apr 2017 02:07:48 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23932#comment-460842 Pielke was one of the expert witnesses who was at the recent congressional hearing, and who referenced the IPCC report.

Greg is saying Pielke (and Curry and Trenberth) are intent on denying the reality of climate change, i.e. are climate change deniers.

Seems pretty clear to me.

]]> By: MikeN https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/10/how-the-ipcc-becomes-a-climate-change-denial-tool/#comment-460841 Mon, 17 Apr 2017 23:49:01 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=23932#comment-460841 “I’ve noticed an uptick in references to the IPCC report by those intent on denying the reality of climate change. This even happened at recent congressional hearings, where “expert witnesses” made similar claims.”

How could Pielke think this was Greg Laden calling him a denier?

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