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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/09/roger-pielke-junior-i-forgive-you-for-this-one-thing/#comment-460734</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 08:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Wow@5: The person who said “Mike’s Nature Trick” wasn’t a denier either. &quot;

Yes, but as you point out, the getting the meaning wrong was deniers. Deliberately. The one using the word cannot, by definition, get it wrong, they can deliberately obscure the meaning to imply something they don&#039;t then have to defend.

And do you know how deniers got the meme out it was a deception? By saying &quot;Mann&#039;s Nature Trick, that means they&#039;re tricking you!&quot;.

So, they did say it. Then add their interpretation, which was incorrect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wow@5: The person who said “Mike’s Nature Trick” wasn’t a denier either. &#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, but as you point out, the getting the meaning wrong was deniers. Deliberately. The one using the word cannot, by definition, get it wrong, they can deliberately obscure the meaning to imply something they don&#8217;t then have to defend.</p>
<p>And do you know how deniers got the meme out it was a deception? By saying &#8220;Mann&#8217;s Nature Trick, that means they&#8217;re tricking you!&#8221;.</p>
<p>So, they did say it. Then add their interpretation, which was incorrect.</p>
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		By: Marco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 05:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember Roger denying vehemently he had threatened anyone with legal action, even though he called certain things that were said &quot;libelous&quot; (a legal term), and the he would pursue further action if no apology was forthcoming.

Roger is just being Roger: extremely sensitive to any perceived insult aimed at himself, and in complete denial when he himself hurls insults. And yes, Roger, your oft-used &quot;Thanks!&quot; is an insult, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember Roger denying vehemently he had threatened anyone with legal action, even though he called certain things that were said &#8220;libelous&#8221; (a legal term), and the he would pursue further action if no apology was forthcoming.</p>
<p>Roger is just being Roger: extremely sensitive to any perceived insult aimed at himself, and in complete denial when he himself hurls insults. And yes, Roger, your oft-used &#8220;Thanks!&#8221; is an insult, too.</p>
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		By: Ahcuah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ahcuah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 02:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow@5: The person who said &quot;Mike&#039;s Nature Trick&quot; wasn&#039;t a denier either. The deniers were the one who took that use of the word &quot;trick&quot; and assumed it meant something like &quot;pulling the wool over their eyes&quot;, when in reality it meant something like &quot;mathematical trick&quot;, i.e., a clever technique for properly figuring out (and validly adjusting) the calibration data.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow@5: The person who said &#8220;Mike&#8217;s Nature Trick&#8221; wasn&#8217;t a denier either. The deniers were the one who took that use of the word &#8220;trick&#8221; and assumed it meant something like &#8220;pulling the wool over their eyes&#8221;, when in reality it meant something like &#8220;mathematical trick&#8221;, i.e., a clever technique for properly figuring out (and validly adjusting) the calibration data.</p>
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		By: t marvell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[t marvell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 01:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a good word for this: lysenkoism. That occurs when rulers think they know more about science than scientists, and rogue scientists feed rulers phony ideas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
The term refers to Stalin’s believe that he could tell that Lysenko’s crazy theories of genetics are more accurate than the scientific consensus, which led to famine.
There are other examples – Ceausescu, Mbeki – and the consequences are very bad.
  It’s always nice to have a neat derogatory term for things one is combating. Such as “death taxes” for inheritance taxes, and “mass incarceration” for prison populations. We should persistently label Curry, Pielke, and the like as “lysenkos.” &quot;The lysenko Pielke,&quot; rather than &quot;The political scientist Pielke.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a good word for this: lysenkoism. That occurs when rulers think they know more about science than scientists, and rogue scientists feed rulers phony ideas.<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism</a><br />
The term refers to Stalin’s believe that he could tell that Lysenko’s crazy theories of genetics are more accurate than the scientific consensus, which led to famine.<br />
There are other examples – Ceausescu, Mbeki – and the consequences are very bad.<br />
  It’s always nice to have a neat derogatory term for things one is combating. Such as “death taxes” for inheritance taxes, and “mass incarceration” for prison populations. We should persistently label Curry, Pielke, and the like as “lysenkos.” &#8220;The lysenko Pielke,&#8221; rather than &#8220;The political scientist Pielke.&#8221;</p>
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		By: SteveP		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2017 22:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Political “science”.   Gee. I never had a course in political “science”.  Is that anything like astrological “science”? Ronald Reagan used astrological science to help him make decisions.. And he was a much beloved conservative politician. Is representative Snuffy Smiff  a much beloved conservative politician too? He is a Christian scientist. So much science!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Political “science”.   Gee. I never had a course in political “science”.  Is that anything like astrological “science”? Ronald Reagan used astrological science to help him make decisions.. And he was a much beloved conservative politician. Is representative Snuffy Smiff  a much beloved conservative politician too? He is a Christian scientist. So much science!</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/09/roger-pielke-junior-i-forgive-you-for-this-one-thing/#comment-460729</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2017 16:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, it&#039;s the same BS that deniers did with &quot;mike&#039;s nature trick&quot; == mike is tricking you.

Which as with this current &quot;Oh, you make rape jokes&quot; bollocks from RPJr is another attempt to lead off into the bushes and lose people because actual discussion never leads anywhere deniers want to be.

You want to be more careful with the word &quot;you&quot;, though, since I&#039;m not a denier and it was and is only the deniers who deliberately misrepresented the words in both cases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s the same BS that deniers did with &#8220;mike&#8217;s nature trick&#8221; == mike is tricking you.</p>
<p>Which as with this current &#8220;Oh, you make rape jokes&#8221; bollocks from RPJr is another attempt to lead off into the bushes and lose people because actual discussion never leads anywhere deniers want to be.</p>
<p>You want to be more careful with the word &#8220;you&#8221;, though, since I&#8217;m not a denier and it was and is only the deniers who deliberately misrepresented the words in both cases.</p>
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		By: Ahcuah		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/09/roger-pielke-junior-i-forgive-you-for-this-one-thing/#comment-460728</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ahcuah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2017 16:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, so it&#039;s deliberately (and wrongly) picking one of the definitions of a word with the intent to make the speaker seem awful. Kind of like &quot;Mike&#039;s Nature Trick&quot;. So I guess you&#039;re in good company.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so it&#8217;s deliberately (and wrongly) picking one of the definitions of a word with the intent to make the speaker seem awful. Kind of like &#8220;Mike&#8217;s Nature Trick&#8221;. So I guess you&#8217;re in good company.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/04/09/roger-pielke-junior-i-forgive-you-for-this-one-thing/#comment-460727</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2017 15:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;So, Roger is accusing me of making a rape joke.&quot;

Certainly, he knows you didn&#039;t and don&#039;t like being accused of it, though he doesn&#039;t give a shit over it himself, he&#039;s fine with rape jokes he makes.

So he accuses you of what he hopes will get you off the topic of how he&#039;s screwed and onto ontology where he can lose you in the bushes.

It is pertinent, I feel, that with the massive use of &quot;Screwed&quot;, &quot;rogered&quot; or &quot;fucked&quot; in the USA as a non-sex metaphor for having been utterly pwned that he&#039;s decided to white knight and turn you into a villain *by having sexual thoughts of Judith*.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So, Roger is accusing me of making a rape joke.&#8221;</p>
<p>Certainly, he knows you didn&#8217;t and don&#8217;t like being accused of it, though he doesn&#8217;t give a shit over it himself, he&#8217;s fine with rape jokes he makes.</p>
<p>So he accuses you of what he hopes will get you off the topic of how he&#8217;s screwed and onto ontology where he can lose you in the bushes.</p>
<p>It is pertinent, I feel, that with the massive use of &#8220;Screwed&#8221;, &#8220;rogered&#8221; or &#8220;fucked&#8221; in the USA as a non-sex metaphor for having been utterly pwned that he&#8217;s decided to white knight and turn you into a villain *by having sexual thoughts of Judith*.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2017 15:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Because he&#039;s the least nuts. He got into VERY hot water with his blogfollowers when he tried to tell them that, yes, there IS a greenhouse effect, it is definitely real.

They definitely did not like him then.

So he&#039;s given credence because if you want false balance, your &quot;best bet&quot; to not tread in the dipshit is to take RPJr against one of the thousands of more qualified but accept AGW as reality scientists.

It&#039;s either him or the potty peer chinlessing his way onto the screen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because he&#8217;s the least nuts. He got into VERY hot water with his blogfollowers when he tried to tell them that, yes, there IS a greenhouse effect, it is definitely real.</p>
<p>They definitely did not like him then.</p>
<p>So he&#8217;s given credence because if you want false balance, your &#8220;best bet&#8221; to not tread in the dipshit is to take RPJr against one of the thousands of more qualified but accept AGW as reality scientists.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s either him or the potty peer chinlessing his way onto the screen.</p>
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		By: Chris O'Neill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris O'Neill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2017 14:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why does anyone give Pielke Jr any authority in climate science anyway when he&#039;s not even a climate scientist?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does anyone give Pielke Jr any authority in climate science anyway when he&#8217;s not even a climate scientist?</p>
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