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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/02/23/ellison-vs-perez/#comment-458463</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2017 01:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#062;voting in the national election is open to all 

No it&#039;s not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;voting in the national election is open to all </p>
<p>No it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/02/23/ellison-vs-perez/#comment-458462</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2017 15:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I must have missed that somehow&quot;

We must have also missed the fact that voting in the national election is open to all but voting for DNC chairman is done by people on a particular committee. 

Or, possibly, we didn&#039;t miss those points, but it is simply that mikeN is one of the combinations of amazingly stupid and monumentally dishonest the modern right idolizes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I must have missed that somehow&#8221;</p>
<p>We must have also missed the fact that voting in the national election is open to all but voting for DNC chairman is done by people on a particular committee. </p>
<p>Or, possibly, we didn&#8217;t miss those points, but it is simply that mikeN is one of the combinations of amazingly stupid and monumentally dishonest the modern right idolizes.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/02/23/ellison-vs-perez/#comment-458461</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2017 15:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Odd. the DNC isn&#039;t synonymous with the USA.

Maybe &quot;mike&quot; here can fill me in on when the USA went 100% Democratic owned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd. the DNC isn&#8217;t synonymous with the USA.</p>
<p>Maybe &#8220;mike&#8221; here can fill me in on when the USA went 100% Democratic owned.</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/02/23/ellison-vs-perez/#comment-458460</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brainstorms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2017 13:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, were they using photo IDs to &lt;b&gt;prevent&lt;/b&gt; voting?

I must have missed that somehow...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, were they using photo IDs to <b>prevent</b> voting?</p>
<p>I must have missed that somehow&#8230;</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/02/23/ellison-vs-perez/#comment-458459</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2017 11:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why did the DNC require a photo ID to vote for the Chairman of their party?  Haven&#039;t they been telling everyone that&#039;s racist?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did the DNC require a photo ID to vote for the Chairman of their party?  Haven&#8217;t they been telling everyone that&#8217;s racist?</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/02/23/ellison-vs-perez/#comment-458458</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2017 10:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And the story from Shrub is that he was reading a kids&#039; book.

Mind you, according to &quot;history&quot; (IOW fake history), Trump was listening to all the Muslims in NYC cheering at the 11/9 incident as it took place. It&#039;s just, like with his yuge crowds everywhere, nobody else saw it, not even mechanical cameras, since they only show &quot;fake news&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the story from Shrub is that he was reading a kids&#8217; book.</p>
<p>Mind you, according to &#8220;history&#8221; (IOW fake history), Trump was listening to all the Muslims in NYC cheering at the 11/9 incident as it took place. It&#8217;s just, like with his yuge crowds everywhere, nobody else saw it, not even mechanical cameras, since they only show &#8220;fake news&#8221;.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/02/23/ellison-vs-perez/#comment-458457</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2017 00:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;My response was how would you know if she did a bad job? If the independent video hadn’t surfaced, the official story would still be that she was exhausted on 9/11&quot;

Holy fuck, how stupid a debunked conspiracy theory pusher are you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My response was how would you know if she did a bad job? If the independent video hadn’t surfaced, the official story would still be that she was exhausted on 9/11&#8221;</p>
<p>Holy fuck, how stupid a debunked conspiracy theory pusher are you?</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/02/23/ellison-vs-perez/#comment-458456</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2017 00:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;One blogger was telling people Trump is horrible and vote for Hillary&quot;

More than one. And as many or more were whining the other way, meaning your complaint here is 100% reflected onto trump supporters too.

Did you ever try your technique and rhetoric on the trump supporters like yourself who did it? &#039;course not, because your complaint is as partisan as you yourself are.

And when you&#039;re here lapping up the &quot;fake news&quot; bullshit from the trump Ministry of Truth, you really have no ground to whine about &quot;without these videos&quot;, since you&#039;re already accepting that Hilary is better than Trump, because she hasn&#039;t ever used the &quot;It&#039;s fake news&quot; and banning of media outlets that your Orange Leader has used in less than one month of office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One blogger was telling people Trump is horrible and vote for Hillary&#8221;</p>
<p>More than one. And as many or more were whining the other way, meaning your complaint here is 100% reflected onto trump supporters too.</p>
<p>Did you ever try your technique and rhetoric on the trump supporters like yourself who did it? &#8216;course not, because your complaint is as partisan as you yourself are.</p>
<p>And when you&#8217;re here lapping up the &#8220;fake news&#8221; bullshit from the trump Ministry of Truth, you really have no ground to whine about &#8220;without these videos&#8221;, since you&#8217;re already accepting that Hilary is better than Trump, because she hasn&#8217;t ever used the &#8220;It&#8217;s fake news&#8221; and banning of media outlets that your Orange Leader has used in less than one month of office.</p>
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		By: MikeN		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/02/23/ellison-vs-perez/#comment-458455</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2017 23:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#062; No longer are they just parroting the party line, they’re actually checking up on the statements and NOT just accepting the bollocks.

One blogger was telling people Trump is horrible and vote for Hillary, writing if she does a bad job you can vote her out.   My response was how would you know if she did a bad job?  If the independent video hadn&#039;t surfaced, the official story would still be that she was exhausted on 9/11.  Even after the video they were reporting that she &#039;stumbled&#039;.

Watching the media become watchdogs again is refreshing.  Will be interesting to see what Fox News does.  Other media stood by them when Obama tried to kick them out of the White House.  Will they respond in kind, or do they wish to be Pravda(OK, maybe both)?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; No longer are they just parroting the party line, they’re actually checking up on the statements and NOT just accepting the bollocks.</p>
<p>One blogger was telling people Trump is horrible and vote for Hillary, writing if she does a bad job you can vote her out.   My response was how would you know if she did a bad job?  If the independent video hadn&#8217;t surfaced, the official story would still be that she was exhausted on 9/11.  Even after the video they were reporting that she &#8216;stumbled&#8217;.</p>
<p>Watching the media become watchdogs again is refreshing.  Will be interesting to see what Fox News does.  Other media stood by them when Obama tried to kick them out of the White House.  Will they respond in kind, or do they wish to be Pravda(OK, maybe both)?</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2017/02/23/ellison-vs-perez/#comment-458454</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2017 01:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;after he lost that, continued to support him rather than Clinton.&quot;

But that doesn&#039;t say that they did that for any reason that you ascribe to them, greg.

There were voters for Jeb that didn&#039;t support trump AND DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM, still supporting Jeb. Was that because they were shitbags who hated Trump and HAD TO just knuckle under and pretend that they accepted Trump because he was running for their party?

Would you be berating them for not voting Trump because it was Trump and not Jeb or Christy or any of the others?

Hell no.

Because you don&#039;t support Trump.

But since you DO support Hillary, you want to insist that everyone who doesn&#039;t think she would make a good president should just STFU and vote for her anyway.

Hell, look what happened less than two weeks after Trump got in: Muslims praying in a US airport ***and being cheered on by other, non muslim, Americans***.

Look what&#039;s happened with the press. No longer are they just parroting the party line, they&#039;re actually checking up on the statements and NOT just accepting the bollocks.

Because the heaps of bullshit coming from trump are so big they just can&#039;t be swallowed.

Clinton&#039;s BS would have been choked down and BAU continued. And fewer and fewer voters, of which the most motivated will vote.

And, since the democrats are chasing the moderate right wingers, only the batshit rightwing will have a voter turnout, and they will decide the outcome of any election.

Which is 100% what happened this time.

It&#039;s not the bernie voters, it&#039;s 20+ years of bollocks disenfranchising the left in the USA while both parties court the rightwing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;after he lost that, continued to support him rather than Clinton.&#8221;</p>
<p>But that doesn&#8217;t say that they did that for any reason that you ascribe to them, greg.</p>
<p>There were voters for Jeb that didn&#8217;t support trump AND DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM, still supporting Jeb. Was that because they were shitbags who hated Trump and HAD TO just knuckle under and pretend that they accepted Trump because he was running for their party?</p>
<p>Would you be berating them for not voting Trump because it was Trump and not Jeb or Christy or any of the others?</p>
<p>Hell no.</p>
<p>Because you don&#8217;t support Trump.</p>
<p>But since you DO support Hillary, you want to insist that everyone who doesn&#8217;t think she would make a good president should just STFU and vote for her anyway.</p>
<p>Hell, look what happened less than two weeks after Trump got in: Muslims praying in a US airport ***and being cheered on by other, non muslim, Americans***.</p>
<p>Look what&#8217;s happened with the press. No longer are they just parroting the party line, they&#8217;re actually checking up on the statements and NOT just accepting the bollocks.</p>
<p>Because the heaps of bullshit coming from trump are so big they just can&#8217;t be swallowed.</p>
<p>Clinton&#8217;s BS would have been choked down and BAU continued. And fewer and fewer voters, of which the most motivated will vote.</p>
<p>And, since the democrats are chasing the moderate right wingers, only the batshit rightwing will have a voter turnout, and they will decide the outcome of any election.</p>
<p>Which is 100% what happened this time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the bernie voters, it&#8217;s 20+ years of bollocks disenfranchising the left in the USA while both parties court the rightwing.</p>
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